Nothing has changed internally! Definitely Apple will not allow the chip swap. Good video.
If Frameworks ever sells a version that is more like a mobile workstation that is well suited for engineering purposes I would definitely buy one.Ill take the Windows Laptop shown towards the beginning of the video with the fully upgradable Logic board to the next gen Intel CPU.
DAM. that's an awesome laptop.
You don’t have to assemble it. You can buy a version fully assembled for you but can still be fully reconfigured afterwards.I was one of the first buyers of the Framework laptop. It's nice and delivers in the upgradeability/repairability space. But it's still a Windows machine and still has teething pains regarding the BIOS, drivers etc. In short, it's buggy and I sold it.
You do 'pay a price' when you have to assemble a machine with components from 50 different vendors, and expecting it to run on Windows with 50K different kinds of applications.
"You" in my comment refers to Framework, as a manufacturer. As opposed to Apple. Framework still has to contend with dozens of potential driver/BIOS incompatibilities due to 3rd party hardware/components.You don’t have to assemble it. You can buy a version fully assembled for you but can still be fully reconfigured afterwards.
...and your source for this is...?They had a bunch of leftover parts so they decided to use those parts and release a "new" MBP.
Just watch the teardown video. They use the same chasis/logic boards to name a few. But keep shilling for apple......and your source for this is...?
No fan though equals throttling.
Aye. They went with a single, larger storage chip to save on the Bill of Materials cost so they could keep the base price the same $1299.
Wahahaha... so goodReminds me a bit of a Monty Python sketch:
Seconding "education, governments, or some other red-tape large organizations"There is obviously someone that is ordering a significant enough of these old machines to make it worth while for Apple to keep re-using old parts and keeping the assembly lines running...my guess is education, governments, or some other red-tape large organizations.
In light of the new MacBook Pros and now Air...it is just a confusing machine to still be selling.
I would say “expected,” not “interesting.” Virtually all computer operations end up as 99%+ heat, depending on the chips' efficiency. So more work => more heat. Try to do more work than ambient cooling will take care of and the speed will have to be reduced to cut the heat.It will be interesting if heat throttling slows down the 2022 MacBook Air, more than the 2022 MacBook Pro with M2.
There’s no reason they couldn’t keep the base price the same. Their margins are *extremely* high and they would still make a ton of profit
This is an example of Apple putting profit over customer experience.
I'd have thought for any particular model the cheapest stock configuration would always be the highest seller?That's standard Apple M.O. so...
In the end, I am guessing that of the millions of these machines they sell each year, the significant majority are configured with 512GB so Apple felt they could skimp since relatively so few buy 256GB and those that do likely do so because they are not focused on disk throughput (and especially synthetic disk throughput scores).
*correction -This is actually the MacBook Pro SE 😆This is the 13" M2 MacBook Pro, not the M2 MacBook Air (which ships in mid-July).
I'd have thought for any particular model the cheapest stock configuration would always be the highest seller?
I'm not shilling for Apple, and you didn't answer my question. The main thing that changed was the M2 over the M1, which was as Apple cited during the WWDC Keynote. It has also been debated that some influencers are not being objective; choosing to not state the specific scenarios that made the chip appear inferior.Just watch the teardown video. They use the same chasis/logic boards to name a few. But keep shilling for apple...
I did answer your question. They walk through all the similarities of the M1 vs M2. Clearly the M2 is different, the rest.... Not so much. Also, not sure how a tear down (where they literally show you what is inside the machines) can be objective but alright...I'm not shilling for Apple, and you didn't answer my question. The main thing that changed was the M2 over the M1, which was as Apple cited during the WWDC Keynote. It has also been debated that some influencers are not being objective; choosing to not state the specific scenarios that made the chip appear inferior.
re-read (or don't) my reply. I stated some influencers were not being objective, and that Apple was not guilty of stating that there were major changes outside of the M2.I did answer your question. They walk through all the similarities of the M1 vs M2. Clearly the M2 is different, the rest.... Not so much. Also, not sure how a tear down (where they literally show you what is inside the machines) can be objective but alright...
Now?Hold up, you're saying there are Apple chop shops now?
It physically can be swapped. That’s what they confirmed. Apple would just have to do the work of writing drivers for the new chip to use to old laptop. It would require some work but not infinite work.I think you mean can *not be swapped. No, Apple should not be 'forced' to do anything. If you don't like their strategy, you just don't buy. Simple.
Sorry to anyone that's read this anecdote before..Everyone's mileage may vary, but I can't imagine anyone investing their hard-earned money in a gimped 8GB RAM/256 SSD that is going to be outdated sooner. At least get the 16GB/512 to future proof the machine. That's part of why my 2012 Mini has lasted 10 years. I Maxed out the RAM and put an SSD in it. Still going.
LOLSorry to anyone that's read this anecdote before..
In 2017, I wanted a small, light laptop that was 'future proof' so I bought a 2017 12" Retina MacBook with 16GB. Less than a year later, I got mildly frustrated with its single port, so I bought a 2018 13" MacBook Pro w/four TB3 ports and 16GB of RAM.
All in the name of 'future proofing'. And now 4 years later, guess what? Both of these 16GB RAM MacBooks are dreadfully slow compared to my 8GB M1 MacBook Air, that you can often get for $800. That extra $200 got me no longer life, no better resell. Just $400 in Apple's pocket.
Moral of the story - buy for today. By the time "the future" happens, something else will be holding you back from amazing performance, and it's probably not the RAM.
I also have a 8GB 2017 12” retina MacBook. It’s no better than the 16GB version, especially compared to my M1 Air.LOL
Take some of that RAM out and your "dreadfully slow" will become unusable