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There is nothing more meaningless then someone who has a career tearing down a keyboard and giving it a repairability rating.

Well, there are the people who decide their opinion is THE ONE TRUTH on the internet. They're pretty meaningless.

As someone who works in education IT, knowing whether you can fix a keyboard is actually pretty useful.

Some people also just like to know what sort of hardware is being implemented to build the things they use.

In summation: just because YOU don't get it doesn't mean no one does. iFixIt, and the Internet in general, does not exist solely for you and your needs.
 
I don't think anyone likes the location of the mouse's charging port, but to me it seems the least of several poor alternatives. Any other location I can think of has its potential negatives as well, either placing the cable/connector in an awkward location for "live use" (sides), or raising the height profile/grip (front edge - the traditional mouse "tail" location).

Mouse and keyboard ergonomics will always be a personal thing, but I happen to love the current MagicMouse layout - it results (for me) in the lightest/most stress-free grip of any mouse I've used. Bulkier/higher mice tend to leave me resting more weight on the mouse itself - more effort needed to break friction/get the mouse moving from a resting position, which requires a tighter grip...

The inconvenience of the charger port location comes down to how long a person will ignore the warnings to charge the thing. If you can't manage to plug it in before you go to lunch or dinner... Maybe you're the wrong person to own a rechargeable smart phone or tablet, too. "I want continuous usage of my mouse while it charges." "Why did you ignore the past two days of recharge warnings?" (Yeah, I know, "You're holding it wrong." ;-) ) Two minutes? That's less than the length of a water cooler or toilet break. I could plug it in when my Watch reminds me to stand (or stand before my Watch reminds me to stand), take my short stroll around the office... back in business. Lunch break? Time to charge! Somehow, I think there'll soon be an app for that - motion sensors in Watch/iPhone detect when you rise from the chair and trigger an alert to charge the mouse before you go (seems Rube Goldberg in a way, but the technology is already in place).

But maybe Apple missed the boat altogether - an inductively-charging mouse/mouse pad combo (or can enough energy be generated by mouse motion across an embedded coil to keep the thing charged?).

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Separately, while I have plenty of respect for iFixIt, I'm tempted to found a site called iDon'tHaveToFixIt (I won't make money selling parts and tools, but maybe ad revenue will be enough). There are several advantages to adhesives - often, reduced parts and assembly costs, but more to the point, higher reliability. Cement can (should) mean fewer parts that come loose in transit from the factory and during long-term daily use. If a product's value is too low to justify the cost of a service center repair (as these are), durability becomes far more important than repairability. And at recycling time, removing a bunch of screws may be more costly than brute-force separation of glued components.

And, dear editors of iFixIt... Why don't you rate anything containing chips a zero for repairability? After all, it's impossible to replace individual, failed transistors in an IC! ("Replace the entire IC," you say? How wasteful!)
 
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Dude, you can get a 9 hour charge in a couple minutes. Go get some coffee and come back. Then use your charged mouse. Then set up to charge before sleeping.

Say what you want about the price, but this isn't as much of a burden as people are making it out to be.

Don't worry, it will be synced to run out of battery exactly at the same time as your Apple Watch tells you to stand up and take a break!
 
The article said: "Magic Keyboard earned a low repairability score of 3 out of 10." That's it, I'm not buying the Magic Keyboard. I open up and fix keyboards all the time. How could Apple do this?!?!

iFixit is hilarious :rolleyes:

I open and clean my keyboard once or twice a year. I've kept great working keyboards for years that way.
 
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Great teardowns of superb Apple designs, thanks, iFixit. Love how they're getting all excited about the back-painting technique which Apple has used on clear polycarbonate and other clear plastics FOR YEARS (white flat panel iMac, iPod etc), drawing attention to it in the Magic Mouse 2 teardown like it's something new; maybe iFixit have missed that technique over the years? :/
 

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Thoughts: Location for charging the mouse is just a disaster, what are you going to do once the battery runs out? Sit down and wait? They should've opted for wireless charging with a mousepad hub having the lighting cable instead.

Also, the trackpad may be expensive but I really really like it.
you only have to wait 2 minutes for a quick charge and you are good to go for another 9 hours on the magic mouse 2.its not like you have to wait 2hours for it to fully charge
 
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Tedious, attempted-to-make-another-"gate", phrase of the week: "5400rpm".

you only have to wait 2 minutes for a quick charge and you are good to go for another 9 hours on the magic mouse 2.its not like you have to wait 2hours for it to fully charge

Exactomondo, and if you don't have a spare mouse or trackpad (seriously? Who doesn't!) then you're foolish. Can't wait TWO MINS of charge time to tide you over 8-9 hours of mouse time? Oh wow... ok.
 
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The article said: "Magic Keyboard earned a low repairability score of 3 out of 10." That's it, I'm not buying the Magic Keyboard. I open up and fix keyboards all the time. How could Apple do this?!?!

iFixit is hilarious :rolleyes:

I don't fix keyboards all the time, but for $100 I will. I've fixed keyboards 3 times in my life. Laptop twice, and a desktop keyboard once.
 
Eh, no but Apple devices aren't indestructable and faultless. They break too and it's good to know how much it'd cost or how much time it'd take to repair things. If I'm spending Apple-amounts of money on things I expect longevity (and most of the time I get that).

It's like just 2 years after buying my iMac I wanted to put a bigger HDD into it, rather than scrap a whole machine and replace it with a full one I asked Apple if they offered a service. They didn't so I read through a guide on the iFixit site and put a HDD in myself. That machine is now 4 years old and works like a charm.

Very glad iFixit and similar sites exist. Why waste money? I know some Apple fans would rather everyone around the world would just buy new models each year ;)

If iFixit was sticking to things like computers then the person's comment about it getting "tiresome" might fit what you said in your post. But when they tear down equipment that you aren't going to upgrade, then the only possible reason is for repair. This is what feels "tiresome" to the poster. Who is really going to repair their mouse or trackpad? Sure, there are people out there. But maybe 10% of the people who buy a Mac would open it up and change out hardware. Most of the people who like to build computers build Windows or Linux boxes. Out of the Mac 10% who do open up their Mac, how many are going to open up their trackpad and replace a battery or sensor? Again, maybe 10%? I don't know a single person who has opened up a mouse to swap a battery. I only know 1 person who has opened their iPhone to change the battery and then wished he hadn't spent the time/money because he replaced it 6 months later. So when you are looking at 1% or less of a user base, it gets "tiresome" when it is treated like "cool news". They are trying to remain relevant and they are making themselves less so.

Speaking of "tiresome", I kind of feel that way about this long post of mine....maybe I should just delete it....naw.....whatever ;)
 
I don't fix keyboards all the time, but for $100 I will. I've fixed keyboards 3 times in my life. Laptop twice, and a desktop keyboard once.

I open and clean my keyboard once or twice a year. I've kept great working keyboards for years that way.

Jumped the gun there. Didn't stop to think about cleaning or fixing individual keys. I've been using wireless Apple keyboards too long. I never even considered them serviceable :oops:
 
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Who is really going to repair their mouse or trackpad? Sure, there are people out there.

And now iFixit have an article for those people.
Still not understanding the vitriol aimed at iFixit. Your mentioning of them trying to "remain relevant". It's just bizarre to me. It's a specialist site offering specialist information. What other interests that others might have do you dislike?

Edit: I've racked my brains but the only thing I can come up with regarding disliking teardown sites is that it encourages people with broke tech to repair it instead of buying new (because some people are really into companies like that).
 
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I'm probably the only one thinking this here. I think the move to internal battery is a step back. I have many spare Eneloops pre-charged ready to go. Takes me seconds to replace them when they run low. When the internal batteries wear out on these things, they're basically ready for the trash can. I suppose Apple will sell more of these things couple years down the line when the batteries wear out.

I haven't noticed much mention of the Logitech MX Master mouse here. Check it out before you plunk down the same $100 for the Apple mouse. All the gestures that can be done with the trackpad can be done on this mouse. Yes the battery is internal, but at least the charging port is on the front ;)

You can't do force touch on the Logitech.
The Apple products all charge off the front except the mouse which as a 9hr use after 2min charge so that is a non-issue
Batteries made in the past few years don't wear out near as fast, all of our Logitech mice at work are going on 4+ years and all still last at least 3-6 weeks per charge.
The mouse is cheaper than the MX Mouse, only the force touch trackpad isn't...and again force touch.

You are not the only one with a preference for regular batteries in their products, but the reasons you listed are not something that really impact your case.

The Apple force touch product is somewhat expensive...but force touch!! I am getting hooked on it on my phone and would LOVE it for my iMac!!
 
Apple thinks they are so green and environmentally friendly, yet, they add more proprietary batteries to the mix, make stuff harder to repair and artificially shorten the lifespan of a plethora of their products.

Very interesting.

Glassed Silver:mac
 
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Thoughts: Location for charging the mouse is just a disaster, what are you going to do once the battery runs out? Sit down and wait? They should've opted for wireless charging with a mousepad hub having the lighting cable instead.

Also, the trackpad may be expensive but I really really like it.

A wireless charger in the base of the iMac would be a nice feature. Less clutter for your desk too. Anyway, it has been stated many times that a two-minute quick-charge will give nine hours of battery life.
 
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Speaking of "tiresome", I kind of feel that way about this long post of mine....maybe I should just delete it....naw.....whatever ;)

It's interesting to see what's inside, and to see how innovative Apple can be with glue. I KNEW they were consulting with kindergartners given some of their decisions lately.
 
Thoughts: Location for charging the mouse is just a disaster, what are you going to do once the battery runs out? Sit down and wait? They should've opted for wireless charging with a mousepad hub having the lighting cable instead.

Also, the trackpad may be expensive but I really really like it.

I know everyone's talking about how to go have a pee or get a drink while it charges, but, looking at my MMv1, I don't see where they can put the charging port and still have it look beautiful. There's hardly any room at the front and back when using it. And putting it on the sides would be very unsightly. I guess that's why Apple just went with the bottom. For the MK and MT, the ports are facing away from the user, so there's no issue.
 
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