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If you have an AppleTV 4K gen2 or newer that supports Matter and Thread, do you still need an IKEA hub for these new IKEA devices?
 
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Except for that those IKEA names are actual swedish words. Not keyboard mashing.

Myggspray = mosquito repellent spray

Myggbett = mosquito bite

Except for that those IKEA names are actual swedish words. Not keyboard mashing.

Myggspray = mosquito repellent spray

Myggbett = mosquito bite
I think it’s only if you are swedish,norwegian or danish they make any sense:)
 
I think it’s only if you are swedish,norwegian or danish they make any sense:)

even with the translation, makes no damn sense. may as well just mash the keyboard if it saves marketing dollars
 
If you have an AppleTV 4K gen2 or newer that supports Matter and Thread, do you still need an IKEA hub for these new IKEA devices?
From the article, actually no. A compatible third party hub, I guess like the Apple TV is fine.
 

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That get pushed? My 4k ethernet ATV is showing Matter 1.3.
One of you is saying Matter while the other is saying Thread. Those are separate things.

Myggspray = mosquito repellent spray
Literally “mosquito spray”

yes. the hub acts as a bridge thats why there is a homekit qr code on the bottom
You don’t need an extra hub for Thread devices, no. Only if you don’t already have one (like an AppleTV).
 
"Apple Home" compatible, not "Homekit" compatible.
Homekit was the old standard before Matter (over Thread), which is compatible with Apple Home.
 
This is good news. I have a fair amount of their TRADFRI bulbs and they aren’t bad per se, but the firmware in them is not that great, especially when you try to connect them to other hubs such as the Philips Hue (heck, even with the IKEA hub they don’t always work right).
I wanted to get few more bulbs and were looking at the Hue Essentials for non critical bulbs, but might give these a try first.
Since these are matter compatible, I’m assuming they will play nice with other hubs.
 
Now if Apple would support Matter 1.4, instead of still being on 1.2, we’d get even more from IKEA. In particular, Matter has supported energy reporting (volts, amps, watts) for a while, but none of that data can make it to Homekit.

I'm quite confident this is going to get sorted out soon when Apple launches their long rumored HomeOS
 
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A few random thoughts that may interest only me:

1. This is huge for Matter / Thread that there is a major manufacturer that will sell very affordable smart home devices that support the protocol
2. If Ikea has put enough effort into these products (so they're reliable and easy to use), it has a great opportunity to garner a significant share of the smart home market
 
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A few random thoughts that may interest only me:

1. This is huge for Matter / Thread that there is a major manufacturer that will sell very affordable smart home devices that support the protocol
2. If Ikea has put enough effort into these products (so they're reliable and easy to use), it has a great opportunity to garner a significant share of the smart home market
Though they've been at it for quite a while, their "Dirigera" Matter hub came out in 2022 and I've been using it since.
 
There is no mention of Thread in the actual press release, are the new bulbs using Thread? Cause it wasn't the case for the older ones.
 
Yeah! I’m suddenly interested in the CO2 levels measurement device, and the temperature and humidity one as well!
For what it’s worth, their current humidity/temperature/air quality sensors work quite well. I even have some automations on HomeKit using the humidity levels and so far no complaints.
They require the Hub, but I expect the new ones to work with any thread hub (such as the Apple TV)
 
Though they've been at it for quite a while, their "Dirigera" Matter hub came out in 2022 and I've been using it since.

The DIRIGERA Hub gained matter support only in September, 2024.

Heretofore it has felt like Ikea was dabbling in or testing waters on Matter. This announcement shows they are serious about it, which is a hugely important signal for the standard.
 
I wish these came out sooner but I suppose I can wait it out. I have one leak sensor (non-Ikea) and would like to get more...plus the Plugs look like an easy add-on, maybe they can help extend the thread network.
 
This could be interesting, if these IKEA appliances work with an existing Philips HUE bridge and are exposed to HomeKit. My current HUE v2 bridge blocks anything that is not Philips/HUE.

Now if Apple would support Matter 1.4, instead of still being on 1.2, we’d get even more from IKEA. In particular, Matter has supported energy reporting (volts, amps, watts) for a while, but none of that data can make it to Homekit.
Is it? My current EVE energy plugs do report volts and power to HomeKit. But I have to use the EVE app or Home+ app (3rd party) to actually create the rules that use these values. The thing that's missing in HomeKit scripting is persistent variables.

But Thread doesn't have anything to do with Wi-Fi per say if that's what you were trying to say. :) Overlapping channels can be a problem, as good as Zigbee and Thread are supposed to be at "clear channel assessment" that should do what it can to prevent problems even if your channels overlap (all have some concept of channels, though Wi-Fi channel numbers and widths are different from Thread and Zigbee). Since "Matter" alone doesn't define a specific physical layer, I'd pay attention to what that is for your specific devices if you have problems with one in your environment and want to avoid it (e.g., 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi?).
The plus of Thread compared to wifi and Zigbee is the hopping, making it more resistant in a very crowded 2.4GHz band. I did some "real world testing" by placing a Zigbee/HUE motion sensor on the edge of our property - far from the nearest Zigbee lamp or hub - and at the same distance a Thread EVE energy. The Zigbee device had way more problems with neighbouring wifi and other RF crap, because of its fixed channel. On bad days I had to reconnect it manually every week. Thread however works all year perfectly. Even wifi 6/7 can't reach that far very stable.

On a side note, more than a year ago I tried Matter (over Thread) with a new EVE energy plug; it caused a blockade on the Thread network. Rendering native Homekit devices on the same node lose connection almost immediately. After one week of continuous problems I removed the one Matter device, keeping the HomeKit native EVE devices. EVE support never resolved the issue back then.
 
... you still have to buy a third party hub, an ikea one.
Would an Apple TV 4k or HomePod mini not act as a Thread router?

I've been looking at expanding my Lutron Caséta investment with some new switches, dimmers, and motion detectors, but that stuff is really expensive, and Lutron seems to be getting more picky about only using their motion detectors with their own devices.

Even using Homebridge to expose the sensors to HomeKit, I can no longer use one of Lutron's sensors that isn't paired with one of their other devices.

If IKEA is bringing out a £7 indoor and outdoor motion sensor that I can use as a HomeKit trigger, I'm going to have those in every room of the house, and out in the yard.
 
One of you is saying Matter while the other is saying Thread. Those are separate things.


Literally “mosquito spray”


You don’t need an extra hub for Thread devices, no. Only if you don’t already have one (like an AppleTV).
Well I went through the steps OP linked in the article (viewing via the Discovery app) and its showing TV=1.3.0 in my home on 26.1. I've read 1.4 is maybe in the 26.2 beta?

 
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