iLife '11 Bringing iOS Apps, 64-Bit Codebase?

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9 to 5 Mac points to a book listing [Google translation] on Amazon's German site discussing the as-yet-unreleased iLife '11 suite.

The cover artwork and Amazon description for the new book, which is set to launch in December, appear to reveal several features of the next revision of iLife, including the possibility of additional iOS apps beyond the current iMovie offering. In particular, a red ribbon graphic across the top right corner of the book's cover reads as follows: "iPhoto, iMovie and more with Apps for Mac, iPhone 4, iPod and iPad".

Additional text as automatically translated in the book's description claims a number of other features, including a 64-bit codebase, iWeb revamp, and the disappearance of iDVD.
ILife 11 may be from the content is completely revised and written in 64 bits. Improvements are mainly in iPhoto and the integration of social networks. iWeb is completely rewritten, and iDVD will disappear, but there are also still a new application. In this book the reader learns all about the new multimedia suite. New features, new applications, new applications. What it does, what changes and how do I get the finest results. want to do for all amateur photographers and videographers, video enthusiasts and all those rich movies and photos and DVDs, web and social networks have to do.
We believe, however, that the entry represents nothing more than placeholder text and images for a book set to launch whenever Apple sees fit to launch the next iteration of iLife, and we do not believe that it represents any particular inside information.

In general, such book "leaks" are not infrequent and have not been proven to be reliable sources of information. But more specifically, the book's description appears to be almost a point-by-point repetition of claims made by French site Mac4Ever back in July. While the claims may turn out to be true, we believe that the book's author or publisher is simply using circulating rumors as placeholder text for a book in preparation and which will be fleshed out once Apple publicly releases the next version of iLife.

Two other books listed as shipping in November are also available on Amazon's German site: iPhoto '11 and iMovie '11. We similarly believe that these are also merely placeholder entries awaiting Apple's actual release.

Consequently, we are publishing this article on Page 2 for interest and discussion.

Article Link: iLife '11 Bringing iOS Apps, 64-Bit Codebase?
 

Stridder44

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I swear to God, I hope iDVD isn't gone completely but more integrated into iMovie or something along those lines. iDVD is one of my favorite applications in the iLife suite. :mad:

The 64-bit rewrite thing is pretty awesome though. Hopefully iTunes will be a part of that (doubt it though).
 

jent

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I swear to God, I hope iDVD isn't gone completely but more integrated into iMovie or something along those lines. iDVD is one of my favorite applications in the iLife suite. :mad:

The 64-bit rewrite thing is pretty awesome though. Hopefully iTunes will be a part of that (doubt it though).
Agreed. The transition to 64-bit is long overdue and iDVD is a great application.

And if iDVD really is "going away," then I really hope it's merging into iMovie.
 

jayducharme

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I agree about iDVD. I use it more than iMovie. A 64-bit re-write is certainly tempting, but not at the expense of one of my favorite applications. Apple hopefully has something even better to replace it.
 

theappleguy

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I can see iDVD disappearing. That's not to say that the product isn't useful to people who still use DVDs, but if Apple isn't going down the Bluray road, then what can they really do to improve it? My prediction is that next year optical drives will start to disappear from Macs and will simply be an external option.
 

Michael73

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I'd like to see a lot more weight put into iPhoto.

With the steep price declines in DSLRs, proliferation of smart phones with better cameras, etc. people are taking more photos than ever before. The result is that the photo management and editing tools that only pros used to need are needed and by more and more hobbyists and casual photographers. If they could pull in some tools from Aperture and more robust photoshop-like tools (layers, dodge and burn, spot healing brush, etc.?) it would make a lot of people happy.

As for the current feature set, it would be nice to see more powerful facial recognition (profiles, better job with babies and children).

I'd also like to see some tighter integration with Mail since family email photos all the time. Rather than just be able to right click and add the shot to iPhoto, how about the ability to create an event, label faces all in Mail and then add to iPhoto.

One of my biggest gripes though iPhoto's lack of integration with AppleTV. If I take movies on my camera or even my iPhone, it syncs to iPhoto but only the photos will sync with AppleTV. The only way to watch these movies is to render them in iMovie, Handbrake or another similar program and then add them to iTunes. What a pain!!!
 

Mgkwho

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Exactly how are people going to install Apple software like Aperture or Final Cut? Or re-install the OS?
I bet desktops will include them for a while, but notebooks will switch to external options. I do a lot of digital media creation, and my USB drives get used for storage soooo much more than the superdrive.

-=|Mgkwho
 

roadbloc

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I bet desktops will include them for a while, but notebooks will switch to external options.
So I'd have to have an external CD drive to play all my games, install my software, go through my backups and import my new music into iTunes?

Oh dear Apple, for the love of god, do not even attempt to axe the CD drive. Please.
 

Alvi

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I can't wait!! iLife '11 Is exciting, I hope iWeb gets better and can actually make your site look less templateed
Is it too soon to hope that iWeb will be html5?
not sure about that, I think they always used quicktime for Video


Just to go all conspiracy theory, what about a new MacBook Air and iLife '11? Both are already very late :d
 

nagromme

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I really like iDVD! I don’t need it often, but it does the job really easily and looks great. I’ve even used it to make looping commercial displays (where the menu style doesn’t matter, I just need to get my video running painlessly).

Maybe DVD burning will just be rolled into iMovie and iPhoto directly. That could work, since few people probably use iDVD alone without starting from iMovie or iPhoto.

Otherwise, it’s back to 3rd party software for that.


I bet desktops will include them for a while, but notebooks will switch to external options. I do a lot of digital media creation, and my USB drives get used for storage soooo much more than the superdrive.

-=|Mgkwho
Maybe so—at least on the low end of notebooks (either the smallest or the cheapest). I thought I’d need the external DVD for my MacBook Air, but three years later I never, ever have! You can even erase your Air’s HS and re-install Mac OS X without an optical drive! I was amazed. You just put the disc in some other computer on your network, and the Air sees it—even if the Air has no OS installed! (But what I can’t make work without an external: key discs for game copy protection. Luckily? my Air is too old to play any of my key-disc games.)
 

batchtaster

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Since the artwork is copied directly over from the current iLife '09, there's no reason to think they have any more insight about the iLife suite than, at best, guesswork, and quite possibly nothing more than just random stabbing in the dark. Apple has not previously reused artwork from one iLife edition to the next, and it makes little sense to retain the '09 artwork given the supposed changes.

 

macthetiger85

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iDVD won't disappear

Just to remind you, your current version of iDVD will not disappear from your applications, they are just no longer developing, marketing and distributing iDVD. If you have iDVD and love it then you'll still have it. It will not cease to exist from your hard drives cause its not on the install disks. Remember iMovie HD to iMovie transition? they even let people download iMovie HD for free even though it wasnt in the suite - maybe they'll do something similar again. You can get it if you want but we're not going to make it default. They can even include it on the DVD as an optional install (with all of the localizations and garagebang library and all of that stuff. Personally I never liked iDVD, I never was able to get it to work but I'm excited about iWeb and i hope it does have html5 - Also, I'd like iWeb to be able to create mobile sites fairly easily.

Next is they need a consumer aperture app in the suite. Like others have said, iPhoto doesnt cut it for editing.

Lastly, I'd like to see the whole LP creation and other media creation as part of iLife. Mobile apps sound good except iWeb on iPhone would be quite challenging. I would like something where I can check on the sites and maybe even republish remotely from my desktop at home since iWeb's sites are so unreliable sometimes. Although, it might be because i'm using consumer software to create professional websites.

Anyway, can't wait for iLife & iWork 11 - hopefully with iPhone iWork apps :)
 

sigamy

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Many folks on this forum seem to use and rely on iDVD. I'm in that group.

I know that the world is much larger than this forum, and therefore the percentage of iDVD users to all Mac users is in fact very small. But...

If Apple does drop iDVD it will be another example of blantant disregard for customer's requests.

This may be obvious for many, but for me, it will be the final confirmation that Apple has moved on from the "digital hub" strategy of 1998 - 2007.

Remember when they made all this cool software to help sell Macs? With iPhone and iPad success this is simply not required any more.
 

Scuby

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I'm more interested in the potential for iPhoto for iPad - i use Aperture on my Mac, but frankly anything has got to be more useful than the built-in Photos app that the iPad is stuck with at the minute.

David
 

Goldfrapp

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I hope iWeb has some sorta 3D text rendering.

Please, let it happen since no other program lets you do it in 3 easy steps.
 

macthetiger85

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Many folks on this forum seem to use and rely on iDVD. I'm in that group.

I know that the world is much larger than this forum, and therefore the percentage of iDVD users to all Mac users is in fact very small. But...

If Apple does drop iDVD it will be another example of blantant disregard for customer's requests.

This may be obvious for many, but for me, it will be the final confirmation that Apple has moved on from the "digital hub" strategy of 1998 - 2007.

Remember when they made all this cool software to help sell Macs? With iPhone and iPad success this is simply not required any more.
I dont think this is right - they're not moving away from the digital hub, they're recreating a different digital hub - Apple isn't necessarily thinking how do we facilitate the creation of dvds so people can make home videos and share them with friends - they're going to the root - what's the best way of distributing videos - right now, upload to the internet is much faster and much more widely used then DVD burning.

Don't forget that in 1998 they dropped the floppy and people had the same attitude you do now. It's great being an Apple customer, they are on the frontline of new technology but they do drop fading technology first too. Pretty soon the usb drive itself will be dropped from the macs as well - what will be the alternative? idk - for flash drives maybe phones will be portable flashdrives connected through wifi or something - by the time they get rid of the superdrive all apple software will be either download or usb stick - no need - people will complain - 7 years later compaq computers wont have them either and we'll be laughing at them for finally catching up although they will then be behind. I have nothing against iDVD but like i said earlier it wont disappear, support will still be available for 3 years or so and iDVD will not disappear from your apps.

Anyway my point is i don't think apple is ignoring their user base - Steve Jobs said at one point "It's really hard to design products by focus groups. A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them."

In other words, they might be replacing the software with something that does that job better, and the job is not creating DVDs, the job is distributing media in a beautiful way - maybe we will see the an app in iLife that was rumored before about making something like the Movie extras, with menus and other content - similar to iDVD but then its to upload or stick somewhere else or on your apple tv or on your iphone or ipad - i don't know, i don't work for apple - that's why i pay them, to think for me and show me what i want, cause i don't know. I have ideas as to where things might end up but i really don't know for sure.

My 2 cents.
 

Stella

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Apple is not the only company that makes software that makes DVD's. Roxio has been doing it for years and their product actually has been updated in recent memory.
I've never seen better DVD menu templates than iDVD - animated menus etc. The templates in Rixo ( titanium ) or even Adobe Premier Elements are all static - all pretty boring.
 

guzhogi

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Exactly how are people going to install Apple software like Aperture or Final Cut? Or re-install the OS?
For something like OS re-installs, maybe USB drives. For everything else, downloads, probably. That seems like a logical course of action. But then again, a lot of people don't like to use logic when they make decisions.
 

macthetiger85

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For something like OS re-installs, maybe USB drives. For everything else, downloads, probably. That seems like a logical course of action. But then again, a lot of people don't like to use logic when they make decisions.
well logic is more for music creation, not really general decisions - however you can mix some great inspiring beats to help you make decisions :)
 
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