Sorry to read about your loss and frustration.
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Sorry to read about your loss and frustration.
Here I've found the perfect "portable" comupter for you.
That plastic thing would break in a thousand pieces when dropped from any height. Even a TiPB is more durable.
last week had an acer aspire laptop that had fallen from rear of sofa on to the seating part as dog ran past yanking power lead.
DC port on a cable so only broke from mountings.
But both hinges destroyed and ripped from base plastics.
after gluing DC socket back it worked but screen needs propping up.
casings destroyed but machine works!
DC port on a cable so only broke from mountings.
But both hinges destroyed and ripped from base plastics.
after gluing DC socket back it worked but screen needs propping up.
casings destroyed but machine works!
You don't drop Windows machines, you throw them!
I remember when those machines were cutting edge :OSorry to read about your loss and frustration.
Here I've found the perfect "portable" comupter for you.
I have a feeling that people who complain about denting their macbooks are exaggerating the damage... Dropped my old 15" MBP from somewhere between chest and waist height onto a linoleum covered covered concrete floor and it most certainly didn't look it had been "wrapped around a telephone pole" or anything. It got slightly dented, but the dent was only a minor cosmetic irritant and the thief who stole it 4 years later didn't seem to mind.
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You and me both. If I look hard I might still have some 8" floppies for an old Compugraphic imagesetter.
my old X220 may agree with you after out living a few Air's now.
You and me both. If I look hard I might still have some 8" floppies for an old Compugraphic imagesetter.
my old X220 may agree with you after out living a few Air's now.
I'm buying my first ThinkPad since the keyboard on my MBP let me down after 3 years.
I expect it might not be as much of a tank as the model you have.
Apple talk about build quality as; thin, light, SPACE GREY
Lenovo seem to talk about build quality as; Sturdy, strong hinges, anti-dust, asymmetrical fans (before Apple did it), used replaceable parts, roll cages to protect the hardware inside the case etc. Spill and dust resistance.
I'll be posting in the future as to how it went goin from Mac to ThibkPad but on paper I see the winner.
You and me both. If I look hard I might still have some 8" floppies for an old Compugraphic imagesetter.
my old X220 may agree with you after out living a few Air's now.
Great post, Tough Books are in a league of their own, taking a beating and then some
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that Cf-31 is a Panasonic, I don't think there are any ThinkPad's QUITE that tough ( my husband beats the **** out of his daily. )
I have 4 thinkpads in my current kit a P50, a P70, and OLD modified X220 that is my on the travel buddy, and an old T450
What would you say forms the build quality and design focus of the latest Mac portable range?
I've heard a lot of good things about Lenovo and their thinkpads are excellent.
I love the way the MBP looks. I give apple credit with their designs, they do produce nice looking equipment. But Apple seems obsessed about making it thinner, and I prefer having ports that I need built into the computer - just my $.02.
(Mac user since 1986)
So my slick-as-snot macbook just slipped out of my hand, dropped 1/5ft, and looks like it was wrapped around a telephone pole.
I used to love MacBooks/PowerBooks. They were tanks. The 1Ghz TiPB was a freaking TANK! Holy crap how many times that thing got dropped and kept ticking (not to mention being the fastest laptop for years). You didn't need magsafe (which is another failed tech based on how long those thing last).
Then Apple switched to Aluminum and claimed it was "stiffer". What a pack of LIES! It may as well be made of butter. I don't know what grade aluminum Apple uses, but at best it's 6000 series. 7050 wouldn't bend like melted butter.
Anyway, I'm done. These things aren't meant to be taken out of the bedroom. Paper mache is more durable. What a pity I have to switch operating systems because the hardware is a complete fail. At least I can get a 17" again.
WTF Apple? What happened to you? I used to be a fan of your industrial design. You suck.
Have you not heard, thin is in no matter how delicate the device becomes!
Apple has lost it way in some respect, they even admit it with the MAC Pro and will be getting rid of that design soon.
I love their hardware but they lost me on the MacBook Pro and I went to the dark side with a Surfacebook and not looking back.
This is a common cliche around here that Apple has "lost it's way". I would consider the 90's as when Apple lost it's way. Completely changing their design philosophy and business model. Last few years? It seems pretty consistent Apple to me. People who say this may have lost a little perspective or not seen a time when they TRULY lost their way. Even the Mac Pro was pretty consistent with their philosophy. Unfortunately it just didn't match up with the target audience, and they are now re-evaluating their product. Trying to apply laptop ideals to a desktop was an unnecessary and constraining move. But it was standard Apple playbook nevertheless. Applying non-applicable cliches to any perceived failure is lazy piling on. Sorry, not directing this to you specifically. It's just that this is said a LOT around here without any basis. You can fairly say a lot of negative things about Apple, but they have been consistent of late.
Do not get me wrong, I LOVE Apple. My 2750 shares of Apple stock have done better than I ever could have hoped for.
I am betting that Apple will find it way no matter what!
I highly doubt anything short of a tough book could withstand whatever did this to your Mac.I know I sure wish he had followed up. I can't be the only one with a trainwreck-like fascination for wanting to see the carnage of such a short drop. Bent around a telephone pole? less durable than paper mache? Clearly it must look like this or worse right?
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Great post, Tough Books are in a league of their own, taking a beating and then some
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I have extensive experience with Toughbooks. They have a predominant following with Law Enforcement/Military Applications for how durable and rugged they are. They can take a serious beating in all kinds of environments and temperatures. Although, costly to repair and an usually have specific/limited repair centers can be problematic. But overall, a great product.
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Same things as before. It's a very sturdy design for ordinary use, which doesn't include dropping it on a hard surface. Those who expect they might do that should look into one of those notebooks designed for that.
Myths never die, whatever the facts. Obviously they could make it even thinner if that were their obsession, but as it always has been, thinness, overall size and weight are balanced with other things, including having the most powerful ports on the market.
Obviously false, but mythology has no rational bounds.
Despite Lenevo having sturdy, strong hinges, anti-dust, asymmetrical fans, user replaceable parts, roll cages to protect the hardware inside the case etc., Spill and dust resistance. Lenevo may be strong in durability, but appears to be lacking in reliability.
You can give whatever credence to Consumer Reports methodology you want. I subscribe, but I am not really pro or con about what they do. To me, it is just one resource among many, kind of like Laptop Magazine. I am actually surprised Laptop Magazine rated Lenevo so high after Superfish-gate, and the class action lawsuit that followed, but that's just mho.
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You can give whatever credence to Consumer Reports methodology you want. I subscribe, but I am not really pro or con about what they do. To me, it is just one resource among many, kind of like Laptop Magazine. I am actually surprised Laptop Magazine rated Lenevo so high after Superfish-gate, and the class action lawsuit that followed, but that's just mho.
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downside to those consumer reports charts is they include all the piss poor models. that are sold for next to nothing. If I compare my daughters piece of crap Idea pad consumer model with my P70 and its build and warranty/support, the difference is 71 Pinto and Rolls Royce Phantom. You really cant go by brand for the build / reliability as I have learned but by the model or series. Lets face it my old Apple Quadra 660AV was by far the ********* desktop ever built to many opinions, but yet the Centris model that ran in tandem with it was a great machine.
That is true and CR does concur, stating "Models within a brand may vary, and changes in design or manufacturer may affect future reliability. Still, choosing a brand with a lower estimated breakage rate can improve your odds of getting a dependable model."
But that is true of the Laptop Magazine ratings as well, which are based on likely a smaller sample size than CR's 82,927 subscribers, that they surveyed.
Point is, all these charts and graphs are of limited value. Instead of worrying and posting for days about where one magazine ranks a brand over another, people need to just make up their own minds
Edit: Actually if you go into the model specific reviews on CR, Apple also performs very well, at the top or near it in every size category. The two biggest knocks that CR gives to Apple are both fair imho. They knock them for only having 3 months tech support, without buying Apple Care and their biggest knock is versatility. Apple makes what they make, and you either like it and buy it, or you don't.
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I almost spit out water. I haven't heard "Quadra" or "Centris" in a long time. Looking back they sound like Toyotas. Ahh, good old Apple. You have a point about the variation within PC brand lines. This is one thing you don't really get with Apple because they market all of their products as more premium. Build quality has been variable in the past, but widespread intention. But back to PC's, although your point is probably correct since they sell "cheap" vs. "premium" lines that skew those stats a bit, you still never really know if you'll get a long lasting PC at any given time. I've referred to it as WinPC roulette because you can buy the most premium of a brand and it will have a major flaw and have failure (just outside of warranty of course). This has happened to me a few times. Other times the PC's were stellar reliability. It's a gamble sometimes with certain brands. HP has burned me twice, but that doesn't mean much if their current spectres end up being rock solid.