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Aside from no OS X, another thing that bothers me about these non-iMac AIOs are the separate USB 2.0 and 3.0 ports.

Yeah. I read somewhere that Ivy Bridge natively supports 4 USB 3.0 ports so everytime I see that they separate them it makes me sad. Its basically artificial limitation for some reason. I mean whats the big deal its not 2000 anymore, cant we have all ports fast?
 
I dont know what it is that makes all these pc makers able to make the AIO machine look so "un-cool" I mean look at the samsung 5 serie, its horrible! It looks like an old monitor with two radio antennas sticking out the wrong way. I mean even my 2009 iMac looks much MUCH better (and thats a nearly 4 year old computer with a 7 year old design).
If they wanna compete with the iMac they would have to pump it with insane hardware, make it as minimalistic as possible with stuff like usb 2 and 3 coming from the same hole etc, sadly though they are doomed having windows anyway. but at least it would make it more appealing. I think I would try to stick with my 2009 iMac than buying one of these to be honest.
 
I dont know what it is that makes all these pc makers able to make the AIO machine look so "un-cool" I mean look at the samsung 5 serie, its horrible! It looks like an old monitor with two radio antennas sticking out the wrong way. I mean even my 2009 iMac looks much MUCH better (and thats a nearly 4 year old computer with a 7 year old design).
If they wanna compete with the iMac they would have to pump it with insane hardware, make it as minimalistic as possible with stuff like usb 2 and 3 coming from the same hole etc, sadly though they are doomed having windows anyway. but at least it would make it more appealing. I think I would try to stick with my 2009 iMac than buying one of these to be honest.

Ha, I'd rather stick to my 2007 iMac than one of these.
 
Touch screen? Yuck.

The future isn't in touching your computer screen, it's in using 3d gestures to control it. See LeapMotion.com, or what some folks are doing with Kinects.

You're not gonna wanna be so close to the monitor as to touch it, and with gestures you can get a big old HDTV (AppleHDTV??) and manipulate the computer screen from afar, even with digits coated with Cheetoh's residue. Typing is still an issue though...we'll see how that integrates.

And since nobody really wants to be in just the plain old desktop computer business anymore, especially Apple, why not just make a big TV into a computer, rather than just a computer monitor? Imagine your 52" HDTV with the guts of a computer squashed into the back, some storage space, and connectors, controlled by gestures...including a virtual keyboard on the screen. That's the future of iMacs IMHO.

Rob
 
I agree what´s the point of touch screen AIO. Unless it had the greatest wacom technology and excellent monitor ergonomy there´s really NO point.
 
It's a Windows 8 computer.....It needs touch.

well windows 8 touch is meant for crappy ipad variants I thought. I would never sit on a chair lean over to touch my screen all the time. It will get smudgy and it would kill my arm. then I think a separate touch pad, such as apple has works better for that kind of use.
 
Again about the touchscreen. I don't get why people are excessively bothered by it. It's not essential for you to use it. Some people might find it useful under some circumstances. If you don't wanna use it, just leave it be. It's not even 'visible'. :rolleyes:
 
Again about the touchscreen. I don't get why people are excessively bothered by it. It's not essential for you to use it. Some people might find it useful under some circumstances. If you don't wanna use it, just leave it be. It's not even 'visible'. :rolleyes:

I don't know if they improved them since last year, but I find Pc touchscreen to be soft/fuzzy. I tried an Acer AIO in April this year and ended up returning it after 3 days because of that.
 
If it is a Windows machine, and has 'gesture recognition' I wonder if it will recognize one gesture I have used on Windows machines in my past life as an IT person! :D
 
except for the background desktop photo I don't see the similarities.
 
Looks pretty ugly to me. Well, I guess it's great if you like the feel of using a TV on your desktop as a computer...

Also using a large screen like that as a touch device has got to be one of the worst ideas ever. To make it comfortable you'd have to sit so close that it's going to make your eyes bleed.

IMO that's no alternative to an iMac...
 
The ports are also quite misplaced and make it look more cluttered. Other than that, it is nice, but I still prefer this AIO, even if the ports are still not as nicely done as on an iMac.

I still like the iMacs better. :D

That HP commercial The making of HP Z1 seems like they are trying too hard to be like the Apple commercials. Plus towards the end... (about 4:21 into the video) the VP of R&D said "they actually have a shock absorber... but for the last 10 mm it closes real slow...", I think he meant to say "10 cm". This lack of attention to detail just bugs me... also it shows they don't know what they are talking about. I'm tired of these companies that are ripping off Apple, whether in design or even in commercials. Just my opinion.
 
How fast 7850 is compared to 680m/7970m?
The 7850m in this is actually about 15% lower than the 6970m. Which makes it 95-115% lower than the 680M.

The problem with all these Windows AIOs is that they have very underwhelming specs (or they are professional workstations and costed like it).

I agree if only they were capable to put a 680 within it..,at this point,
rather than buyin this,in order to have Usb3 and IvyBridge its better to order a 2012 MacBookPro,or ,if you don't want/need Usb3 ,to accept to buy a old(but good)2011 Imac.
I will wait till the end of October and then i will buy a non retina 2012 MbPro,exactly where Apple wanted,
and i hate it.
 
Again about the touchscreen. I don't get why people are excessively bothered by it. It's not essential for you to use it. Some people might find it useful under some circumstances. If you don't wanna use it, just leave it be. It's not even 'visible'. :rolleyes:

Primarily, it's that:
- It's extremely poor design. Next to nobody will end up using it.
- It's not free. The cost of that component could have come off the top line or it could have been reallocated to improve other components that will actually be used.
 
Looks pretty ugly to me. Well, I guess it's great if you like the feel of using a TV on your desktop as a computer...

Also using a large screen like that as a touch device has got to be one of the worst ideas ever. To make it comfortable you'd have to sit so close that it's going to make your eyes bleed.

IMO that's no alternative to an iMac...

Check this out:
http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/...-category-id=0345D5C768B9E1755A7FBA0581A037E8

Lenovo A720:
i7, 27" 1080p, TV, 64GB Boot Drive, 1 TB HDD, Blue Ray Read/Write.
Screen can lay flat, 10 finger touch.
Can open and replace/upgrade parts. Not good on included ports.
3 year next day on-site warranty--Total cost ~$1900.
I would not buy one, but nice concept.
 
I just think the concept is good.

Stock component selection is mid-range, resolution is too low for me in a 27", and, at launch, you can't customize this model. Maybe later...
 
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