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'iMac Pro' Coming in 2022 With M1 Pro/Max Chips, 27-Inch Mini-LED Display, MacBook Pro Ports and More

datiecher said:
To drive a ProMotion-enabled 6K display, you'll need more bandwidth than a single Thunderbolt 4 lane can provide, and since the M1 Max, Apple's currently most powerful chip which is also rumored to be in these new iMacs, has 3 Thunderbolt 4 lanes, I don't see any user using two of these lanes to drive a single monitor.

We'll most likely have more Thunderbolt 4 lanes in the chips coming to the Mac Pro late next year, but until then it's unlikely Apple would be releasing an updated monitor that even in their current top of the line Mac Pros, would need to use two of the four lines they have to drive it.
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Does the 120hz require more bandwidth than the current XDR Display?
 
HobeSoundDarryl said:
You (and I) HOPE they'll put MAX in a Mac Mini. We don't know that. Yes, there's rumors but rumors don't always pan out.
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I just think that rendering of the a more powerful Mac mini is too small a form to put a Max in.

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You might as well buy a MBP laptop comparably and use that as a desktop replacement.
I won't discount Mac Pro's arriving that are much smaller as another curve Apple could throw at us. The present Mac Pro is huge like most PC workstations, but with ARM SoCs with GPUs how big do you need?
 
Agreed. That's partially why I have some doubts about a Mac Mini with MAX... but am hopeful.

Then again M1 went from thicker Mac Mini into super thin iPad Pro.

And the render is a rumor too. What if the actual one is basically the size of MBPro 14 sans lid? Wouldn't that hit the rumored "thinner than the existing Mac Mini" but be wider? Now mentally remove all that battery from the MBpro 14. Does that roughly fit that rumored render case? Or something similar?

Now remove the relatively big speaker setup as Mac Mini doesn't usually have/need great speakers- just a modest one. Does it fit now?

Are the 2 fans needed for M1X-PRO-MAX or to keep them batteries cool too? Would a single fan, small speaker, battery-less, lid-less M14pro fit in the render or something similar?

Lastly, a gripe of that render is the 4 USB-C ports are too close together... that some USB connections would BLOCK additional ports. Spread those out a few millimeters and that case is a bit wider. Do the guts of MBpro 14 MAX sans battery, smaller speaker, maybe one fan and no lid fit into that much space?
 
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AlexESP said:
I think some people have lost perspective with the big jump of the MBPs and are still in the Intel mindset, specially those who say the base iMac should have a better processor.

I can understand *some* people need more GPU performance than the M1 Max, but 99% of “Pro” users won’t need more CPU performance. The M1 Pro and Max provide the same CPU performance as the Xeon iMac Pro, consuming much less power (and it also matters in a desktop).
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The key to this line of thinking is the Mac Mini. It will end up getting the M1 Pro and Max - even if there are no other changes and they just add the options to the current unit. Any new iMac after that will have to be appropriately powered and priced or power users will not buy it over the Mac Mini. That has always been the case in the past and more often than not they have had to nerf the Mac Mini to keep it from cannibalizing iMac sales.
 
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jayducharme said:
Interesting that he says FaceID was "tested", whatever that means. With the increased screen real estate on an iMac and an impending notch, FaceID would make perfect sense.
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I think Apple is trying to figure out if Face ID makes sense on a Mac rather than figuring out if it is technically feasible. Payment is an issue where you have to double click on a button on iPhones and iPads which makes no sense on a Mac. If you’re requiring touching a button to invoke Face ID then the built in Touch ID would already be there. Like you I want Face ID but I’m guessing that’s what Apple is thinking. Testing doesn’t necessarily mean they’re trying to figure out whether it works. Rather it could be a usability test.
 
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Jimmdean said:
The key to this line of thinking is the Mac Mini. It will end up getting the M1 Pro and Max - even if there are no other changes and they just add the options to the current unit. Any new iMac after that will have to be appropriately powered and priced or power users will not buy it over the Mac Mini.
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Or the next Mac Mini does NOT get PRO & MAX. There's always M2.

Or it does but the price seems crazy relatively to also getting the screen and other extras in this new iMac. Then you have to rationalize paying up for the flexibility to use any monitor- or a notch-less monitor if that happens to show here- and being able to upgrade again in a few years while continuing to use the same monitor... which is where it might start being a more economical choice vs. having to throw out the whole iMac when you feel compelled to replace it.
 
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It sucks when I see a headline like this expecting Gurman or Kuo but it’s just a BS artist like Dylan. He just guesses. He’ll be exposed soon just like many other Twitter “leakers”.
 
kenny7 said:
Imagine the outrage if it had both chin and a notch :p
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The larger versions of the 24" iMac with a larger chin similar to the 27" iMac is still a likely possibility.
Thermally the 24"iMac with the thermal intake and exhaust in separate locations underneath the chin is what I expect when the larger iMac appears. I detest the horrid thermals with one exhaust by the memory access of the last so many intel 27" iMac releases.
 
Dustman said:
27” is a ‘massive’ mistake Apple. I can’t imagine anyone wanting 27” over 32” as anyone with size constraints will surely get the 24”.

Maybe the return of 3 iMac sizes? ..Maybe?
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While I prefer a larger screen I can see why many do not want a bigger one. Lots of people want to see the entire screen at once without turning their head. For instance I asked my gamer son if he wanted my ultra wide monitor. He said no. Anything bigger than 27” and too wide was just not desirable. Lots of hard core gamers wont get monitors bigger than 24”. I’m sure there are a lot more people than gamers who feel the same way.
 
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What's the track record of this leaker? I'd be happy if they go with the design similar to the picture but it seems unlikely to me Apple will use different design for different size iMacs. have they done this before?
 
0089294 said:
can we really expect the price to be on par with the mbp 14 ? really ? sounds too cheap to me
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No.

Example: there is a M1 Mini 8/8/512GB for sale $699 and the exact same M1 8/8/512GB in iMac 24 $1699.

More relevant example 2: the MacBook Air has the M1 8/8/512GB for $1249 vs. that iMac at $1699.

That seems to imply that iMac will certainly have a HIGHER price than MBpro. Tangible rationalization will start with much larger (tangibly more expensive) screen.

Or that monitor stands are proven to be sellable for $1000 by themselves. ;)

And that upwards of 5 Apple Cloths may be thrown in as a limited-time bonus. ;)
 
HobeSoundDarryl said:
No.

Example: there is a M1 Mini 8/8/512GB for sale $699 and the exact same M1 8/8/512GB in iMac 24 $1699.

More relevant example 2: the MacBook Air has the M1 8/8/512GB for $1249 vs. that iMac at $1699.

That seems to imply that iMac will certainly have a HIGHER price than MBpro. Tangible rationalization will start with much larger (tangibly more expensive) screen.

Or that monitor stands are proven to be sellable for $1000 by themselves. ;)

And that upwards of 5 Apple Cloths may be thrown in as a limited-time bonus. ;)
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hahaha

so what price would u expect for base model ?
 
I think and hope they will release 2 different sizes of the iMac's. One may be called just iMac and the other iMac Pro, or same name.
Then also release screens in those formats to. 27-28", 32-34" would be my guess, with thin black bezels.

Can't wait for these to comes! Oh, that is exactly what I have been doing. Would love an iMac with a screen in same size on my desk before end of this year. Space gray or gold.
Wallet is ready ?
 
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I was really hoping for a larger than 27" display and 3.5mm display border. :(

I find it odd that they'd put a HDMI port on any iMac. Historically it never came with it.

These are the I/O of the following iMacs
  • iMac 21.5" & 27"
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  • iMac Pro
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  • iMac 24" four ports
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  • iMac 24" two ports
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I'd personally prefer the iMac Pro's I/O continue as is but swap out SDXC for CompactFlash

Will the M1 Pro & M1 Max have identical performance across all desktop & laptop Macs?

Just like the M1 with all desktop & laptop Macs?

The iMac 24" comes with a 143W power adapter.

While the iMac 27" has a 300W PSU & iMac Pro has a 500W PSU.
 
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