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Considering the 27" iMac is 30.5" corner to corner, the "New 27" iMac" with smaller bezels will be about 28".

Personally I would prefer if apple moved towards a replacement display keeping the same physical dimensions - so around 30" for the display as there wouldnt need to be any adjustment space wise.
 
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Considering the 27" iMac is 30.5" corner to corner, the "New 27" iMac" with smaller bezels will be about 28".

Personally I would prefer if apple moved towards a replacement display keeping the same physical dimensions - so around 30" for the display as there wouldn't need to be any adjustment space wise.
I been thinking about that every since its was being referred as a 27". That they could fit a larger screen then 27" into the same dimensions. If they mimic the MBP screen you get close to a 30", and knowing Apple they would call it that even if it was really 29.5".
 
Idea: I don’t think they can pull off that curved glass refresh with the built in keyboard, and it might not be good design anyway (keyboard too close to screen).

Can anyone imagine a tasteful way, though, to have a kind of charging dock for the mouse and keyboard built into the stand/base? Wireless charging? Or male USB ports that sit under some kind of cover and then let you slide the keyboard in to rest directly under the screen? Or is that impossible to do well?
 
I am working at home and decided to get a 32" 4K screen, upgrading from a 27. I can't imagine going back to a 27" as my primary display. If this is a Pro machine, real estate is important for any degree of multitasking
 
I am working at home and decided to get a 32" 4K screen, upgrading from a 27. I can't imagine going back to a 27" as my primary display. If this is a Pro machine, real estate is important for any degree of multitasking
ever heard of dual screens?
 
I am %99 sure that it will be a 30" display.
32" screen would make the iMac line too overpriced for most consumers (like me) since just the monitor itself is around $ 6K and it would effect the sales of 6K standalone monitor as well as the Mac pros.

Freelancers who wish to go above the m1 option in 24" needs an entry level iMac Pro 27" or 30". Since entry level MBP 14" line bumped up somewhere around $700 over previous gen. I assume they would do that to iMac Pro as well.

Also Face ID will be not present I think in first batch.. but they would probably save it for the second salvo.
 
I believe Mac Mini is not a strategic product for Apple, it is probably not generating enough profit to warrant a lot of resources.
Well, that's just another way of saying Apple doesn't have a coherent strategy for that portion of the Mac line without being willing to acknowledge it explicitly!

I.e., I said in the past Apple hasn't appeared to have a coherent strategy for parts of the Mac line; you argued there is a strategy there but things can interfere; and I countered that doesn't explain a 4-year update gap in the Mini. But instead of acknowledging my point, you've moved the goalpost by saying now the Mac Mini doesn't count. With all due respect, that's not arguing fairly. You can't just change the rules to avoid acknowleding your argument isn't correct.

In product development you do not have unlimited resources. If another product needs more focus because it is strategically more important resources will be diverted to the more important project and an update of a less important product cancelled or delayed.
Again, you're not arguing fairly here, since "unlimited resources" is just a straw man—my argument is not based on an assumption of unlimited resources. It's based on an assumption of very substantial resources.

As far as the Mini goes, I would say either you keep the product in your line, or you drop it. If you keep the product in your line, you treat it properly, which means you at least give it resources in proportion to the profit it delivers. The Mini may represent only, say, 0.5% of Apple's profit (the Mac line is about 10%, and let's say the Mini is 1/20th of that, which gives 0.5%). But that means you devote 0.5% of the company's resources to it, which is not zero. And 0.5% of Apple's vast design resources is certainly sufficient to at least keep the processors updated.
From the inside the decisions are typically well analyzed and motivated. From the outside it may not be obvious.
Of course, there's a lot Apple knows that we don't. So what you wrote is certainly often correct. But remember it's not always correct. Apple can make mistakes and drop the ball just like anyone else. It's composed of people, after all. Let's not treat them like they have papal infalibility!

Here's Phil Schiller responding to a question about the Mac Mini in 2017 during an interview about the Mac professional product lineup. Clearly he's been caught flat-footed, because he doesn't know how to respond, so all he's left with is corporate boilerplate. Translation: The Mini is important but we don't really know what we're going to do with it.

Phil Schiller: "On that I’ll say the Mac Mini is an important product in our lineup and we weren’t bringing it up because it’s more of a mix of consumer with some pro use. So we’re focusing today specifically on the things that are important to pros. While there are some pro usage, there’s also a lot of consumer uses so we aren’t covering it today. The Mac Mini remains a product in our lineup, but nothing more to say about it today.

If we haven’t communicated that, we have a lot of people working on the Mac — a lot of really brilliant people invested in great new products in both infrastructure and people — then we haven’t done our job here today because we do have a lot of resources on the Mac, and that’s gonna stay."

Yes, you could argue he wasn't prepared to talk about it because he didn't think it would come up during an interview. But if Apple did have an actual strategy for the Mini at that time, Schiller would have known about it, and could have come up with a less strained response than "The Mac Mini remains a product in our lineup, but nothing more to say about it today." E.g., he could have said: "Yes, we are planning good things for the Mini", which is standard Apple corporate speak for products for which they do have a strategy, yet don't want to mention the details. It's thus striking he didn't say that.

And leaving a product without an update for four years is not "investing a lot of resources"!

 
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They could have, but the performance improvements weren’t that great, so maybe they felt it wasn’t worth the hassle.

If you ask me, it doesn’t matter if it’s a 3% faster, if there’s a new chip, either use it or adjust the price accordingly (you’re selling 4 years old tech). Apple did neither. Hopefully we’ll return to roughly yearly refreshes now that apple controls design and production of the chips.
If it really were the case that the performance improvements in Intel processors weren't that great between 2014 and 2018, why update any of the chips in the Mac line over that period? The fact is that, over those four years, there were significant enough performance improvements in the Intel chips to justify upgrading every single other Mac in their lineup. They just didn't upgrade Mini, for reasons that had nothing to do with with available processor improvement.
 
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my maxed 16 M1 Max MBP has been run through the ringer. Trust me, tortured, and I haven't heard the fan come on even once or get hot to the touch.
That is likely so, but this a good M Max comparison of how the larger doesn't heat up as fast, as well as the fans almost never kick on for regular work that you notice just some sustained benchmarks on either. I'm sure iMac users would love to be able to see the same performance on the future model.

 
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Gotta be honest, I would rather they just produce a display with everything but the mo-bo. At least that way you could choose a Mac mini with better I/O, more configuration and better cooling.
 
what's the point of HDMI? how many really use a second monitor with an iMac 27? sure there are some but certainly not the majority ...
and 27 would be a disappointment, would have expected 30 ...
I used an external display with both my 24" and then 27" iMac. Switched to a Mini (w/ 2 displays) for a change of pace, but I'm curious to see what they come up with for the new ~27" iMac... hopefully starting in the 27" iMac price range and not starting at the iMac Pro price point.
 
Considering the 27" iMac is 30.5" corner to corner, the "New 27" iMac" with smaller bezels will be about 28".

Personally I would prefer if apple moved towards a replacement display keeping the same physical dimensions - so around 30" for the display as there wouldnt need to be any adjustment space wise.
I’m in the 28.4 inch boat. It’s pretty much exactly what they did to create the 27 inch retina. 4 x 13.3 inch MacBook Pro screens. Makes sense to do the same again for the bigger iMac eg. 4 x 14.2 inch panels would produce a 28 inch 6K display.
 
I hope it arrives soon.

The M1 Pro/Max is a beast. Even though it's called the Pro, the leaker himself has said it's the natural successor to the 27" iMac, not the iMac Pro.

In the end, they are leaving the range very defined.

The Mx range with the MacBook Air M1 (or maybe it will be renamed to MacBook SE?)/MacBook Air M2/iMac/Mac mini.

The Mx Pro/Max range with the MacBook Pro 15/16/iMac Pro/Mac mini "Pro".

And at the top, the Mx Extreme range or whatever MacPro is called.
 
The next-generation iMac that's in the works could be called the "iMac Pro," according to leaker Dylandkt.
Wonder if Dylandkt's track record is good or just mediocre. Clearly, many want a new 27 inch+ iMac( including me! ) and there is high probability Apple will have a larger Apple Silicon based iMac in 2022, so it's not clear if this "leak" adds much to the discussion. It doesn't even rise to the level of anecdotal evidence. Mark Gurman, sure but don't know about this "leaker".
 
Also important to note is that Apple clearly said that their M chips would provide performance and that would put their new products in a category above the intel machines they replace. They won’t be able to make that claim with even the M1 Max chip, unless they can actually boost performance outside the MacBook Pro TDP limits.
 
Che cattiva notizia per me se esce nel 2022, spero anche che abbia un display da 30/32", il problema più grande per me è se il mio iMac 27" metà 2010 è ancora vivo, se muore prima come sembra non so cosa fare
 
I know this is a rumour and it's supposedly 'base spec' but 16gb Ram and 512gb storage is pathetic for a 'Pro' machine. Cue Apple's memory tax...
Why? It’s the same as the new MacBook pros. If you’re a “pro” then spec it up. Either that or show me a mini LED 27” 5k all in one that’s cheaper. The current 5k iMac can’t be matched, let alone a new MiniLED one.
 
If it really were the case that the performance improvements in Intel processors weren't that great between 2014 and 2018, why update any of the chips in the Mac line over that period? The fact is that, over those four years, there were significant enough performance improvements in the Intel chips to justify upgrading every single other Mac in their lineup. They just didn't upgrade Mini, for reasons that had nothing to do with with available processor improvement.
You could be right, I haven’t looked up which cpus intel released during that years, but if memory serves me well all of them were 14nm.

It’s possible apple was pondering wether to discontinue the mini or not, it could also be that they were expecting a bigger jump in performance, both of those reasons or none of them.
 
I was hoping for a 32" version with the 6K monitor. I hope they give it as an option, then I will upgrade the current development machine: iMac27 Intel Core i9 9900 which is always turning on the fans.

The Pro Display XDR is 6K 32" monitor.
I agree. They should have a ~$2000 - $5000 27-29" iMac with similar design to the 24" (colors and chin, M2 or M1 Pro chip), then a 32", 6K, ProMotion "iMac Pro" with the M1 Max or greater, all grey and black, no chin for ~$5000+.
 
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