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So you would like to look at 130 ppi? Are you sure? My employer gave me a 27" 4K display for free. When I first plugged it in I thought it was broken. After playing around with it I realised it has 168 ppi and that is much lower than the iMac and MacBook Pro I was used to. I tried to work with it but after one month of daily trying I gave it back. If you are used to ~220 ppi it's hard to look at 4K larger than 24".

Woah I never said looking at 4K at 130ppi on a 34" screen I said I'd rather look at 4K on a 34" screen, but not that that terrible pixel density. Current pricing doesn't match quality so I never purchased a 4K screen at all. I don't need 4K currently maybe in a year possibly but not needed for me right now and surely not that that terrible pixel density - my eyes suffer enough lol.
 
People forget that you have to plug things in on the back. To do this you would have to touch or hold the screen when you plug things in. That is mainly why there is a chin. Plus, like the 24” the chin is where most of the guts are. Let’s be real..there needs to be some short of chin. Maybe reduced in size, but there will be something.
The Chin won't be reduced as M Pro and M Max thermals require larger twin fans. Likely just as big as the other 27" retina iMacs. The air intake and exhaust would also be in the chin's base as well as the 6 way speakers. Yes no one in their right mind would have the hot SoC under the display. ;)
 
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This is what is disappointing. After a year, the pro/Max doesn’t have a faster core.

M1 series is a mobile chip. People salivating over a pro imac with a mobile chip are missing the point. It is inferior to an i9 when the i9 has a large power supply to feed it.

Apple needs to up their chip game to make a compelling work station case. Mediocre core speeds and mediocre graphics cores fo not impress me just because the fan never turns on…
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In these latest tests, the Core i9-12900HK outperforms the M1 Max on both single-core and multi-core benchmarks. The margin is slim, but is important for Intel since Apple ditched its CPUs for its own designs in new MacBooks.

Intel's Alder Lake CPU didn't beat the M1 Max by much, with respective single-core scores of 1851 and 1785. It beat the Core i9-11980HK and AMD's top mobile CPU, the Ryzen 5980HX, by a bigger margin: the latter two CPUs saw scores of 1616 and 1506, respectively.

In the multi-core benchmark, the Core i9-12900HK scored 13256 versus the M1 Max's score of 12753. Again, it trounced AMD's 5980HX, which scored 8217.
The M Pro and M Max might be a touch slower, but energy efficiency your going to argue its got to have a large power supply like for the i9 to feed it to be impressive? Hmmmm
 
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People forget that you have to plug things in on the back. To do this you would have to touch or hold the screen when you plug things in. That is mainly why there is a chin. Plus, like the 24” the chin is where most of the guts are. Let’s be real..there needs to be some short of chin. Maybe reduced in size, but there will be something.
The chin isn't necessarily needed, at least not on the smaller iMac. They could make the area behind the screen bigger. However, the chin is what makes an iMac an iMac. Anyone who thinks Apple will get rid of it doesn't understand its overall importance. It will appear smaller relatively anyway on the new 27" because of the bigger screen size.

Even otherwise, does there exist an all-in-one computer as sleek as the iMacs, since literally ever? People here are just spoiled ?. I will add to the voices wanting an actual affordable display though.
 
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I can't argue against that, but what would motivate Apple to do that? I don't see that happening
Don't look at is as helping the Windows community. There are creative professionals who would love to extend their MacBook with an extra screen if they have an iMac as well.

The new MacBook Pro has a HDMI port, a great way to connect to a second screen which could be the new iMac Pro.

It is nothing new for Apple, they had this functionality on their old iMacs. It was called Target Display Mode.
 
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Shouldn't the iMac Pro have more power than a MacBook Pro? An iMac is plugged in and you should be able to take advantage of that. It should have at least two M1 Max or M1 Pro or a version with even more cores. Otherwise it would make more sense for the customer to just buy a monitor for the MacBook Pro. That could even have 32 inch or more.
That is my personal preference: MBP+Display, however keep in mind portability comes with a price…if you don’t need it you’re better served with iMac.
 
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The chin isn't necessarily needed, at least not on the smaller iMac. They could make the area behind the screen bigger. However, the chin is what makes an iMac an iMac. Anyone who thinks Apple will get rid of it doesn't understand its overall importance. It will appear smaller relatively anyway on the new 27" because of the bigger screen size.

Even otherwise, does there exist an all-in-one computer as sleek as the iMacs, since literally ever? People here are just spoiled ?. I will add to the voices wanting an actual affordable display though.
Also in the display longing list? However I must say the new 24 iMac design was a enormous disappointment. I believe this is more widespread than some may believe, as an example, these don’t seem to be making their way to “design conscious” retail stores cashiers which usually have one sitting there for the “coolness” effect…
 
Unfortunately that wiki guide misses a few things:

true 10-bit colour
p3 colour gamut (93%) rating of all the comparisons
1000nits sustained full-screen brightness, 1600nits peak at 6K.
218ppi at 6K - in that wiki link its THE ONLY display of that caliber.

I tried making the argument there are better displays out there (non-studio professional reference monitors) and got schooled.

Again there is a LOT in this XDR display to last for some time as it has thus far already.
The purpose of that guide was purely to list pixel densities, and it does a beautiful job of it. It doesn't miss those things you list—those aren't supposed to be in there.

I'm sure the XDR is a beautiful monitor. But I'm not sure if, for my purposes (which mostly require maintaining text sharpenss with very small fonts), it would be as good as, or better than, the less expensive 32" 8k Dell, which has an ever higher pixel density (but which hasn't been driveable by Apple computers thus far).
 
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I agree that it is unlikely they would do it. I also agree that the market is largely happy with silver and grey. Try walking onto a new car lot today and finding something OTHER than black, silver, or grey. I'm in the minority in liking bold, unique colors. We're only here on earth for such a short time...I can't imagine playing it safe with color. Color is fun!

I do disagree that it is a logistical configuration problem, tho. The iMac is still Apple's consumer desktop (as differentiated from the Mac Pro). I suppose there is a question whether the new large iMac will be closer to the existing 27" iMac or the discontinued 27" iMac Pro. That will probably be the biggest indicator of whether they go multi-color or pro black/grey monochrome. Apple found a way to sell the original iMac in a multitude of bold colors and even prints. If the new 27" stays "consumer" and not "pro" it could happen.
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Those were great because they had a “bold” chassis design to match. New interaction feel like a ”childish” lazy colouring. IMHO very unappealing and “unApple”. BTW the watch color scheme doesn’t seem be getting better either…
 
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100% -Love it or hate it, the notch is a key element in all contemporary Apple products' design language and it's definitely here to stay for many years to come.

Apple cares way more about us immediately recognising when we're looking at an Apple display than they care about building under-display cameras and FaceID.
That’s why they removed the front facing naming logo…although they have put one on bottom, for clamshell mode ?. Seriously I suspect the notch is just a compromise until we can get sensors under display at reasonable cost. Meanwhile we get more display area.
 
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The M Pro and M Max might be a touch slower, but energy efficiency your going to argue its got to have a large power supply like for the i9 to feed it to be impressive? Hmmmm
The M1P and M1M have vastly better energy efficiency, but in a desktop system that has moderate significance. It should make it easy to build a silent system, which of course is good, but you can also easily do that with five times the power draw of Apples new SoCs.
 
Also in the display longing list? However I must say the new 24 iMac design was a enormous disappointment. I believe this is more widespread than some may believe, as an example, these don’t seem to be making their way to “design conscious” retail stores cashiers which usually have one sitting there for the “coolness” effect…

Those were great because they had a “bold” chassis design to match. New interaction feel like a ”childish” lazy colouring. IMHO very unappealing and “unApple”. BTW the watch color scheme doesn’t seem be getting better either…

I honestly don't know how you can say that when Apple released the iMac G3s in a dozen colors with white bezels and it was the product that saved them in the early 2000s.


Don't trash the colors, man. Have you seen them in person? They're beautiful. Sure, it's fine if you don't prefer them, and in that case, the silver is there as a safe bet. Retail stores probably don't have them because of one reason or another, and I doubt it's because of the design. Actually, most retail stores I've seen use windows computers, so I don't think iMac adoption in stores is all that relevant.

My first and only iMac is the 2017 model I have in my signature. I will always love and appreciate the classic design that's been there since 2007, but imo, Apple nailed the design of the new iMacs too. I would get one in purple if I could afford it, but I'll probably wait until they release an M2 or M3 updated version.
 
This is what is disappointing. After a year, the pro/Max doesn’t have a faster core.

M1 series is a mobile chip. People salivating over a pro imac with a mobile chip are missing the point. It is inferior to an i9 when the i9 has a large power supply to feed it.

Apple needs to up their chip game to make a compelling work station case. Mediocre core speeds and mediocre graphics cores fo not impress me just because the fan never turns on…
I don't think the Mathematica results are about the M1's single-core processing speeds, which are actually quite high--nearly as fast as the fastest non-overclocked desktop chips. Rather, it has to do with other factors, which I alluded to in my post.
 
I honestly don't know how you can say that when Apple released the iMac G3s in a dozen colors with white bezels and it was the product that saved them in the early 2000s.


Don't trash the colors, man. Have you seen them in person? They're beautiful. Sure, it's fine if you don't prefer them, and in that case, the silver is there as a safe bet. Retail stores probably don't have them because of one reason or another, and I doubt it's because of the design. Actually, most retail stores I've seen use windows computers, so I don't think iMac adoption in stores is all that relevant.

My first and only iMac is the 2017 model I have in my signature. I will always love and appreciate the classic design that's been there since 2007, but imo, Apple nailed the design of the new iMacs too. I would get one in purple if I could afford it, but I'll probably wait until they release an M2 or M3 updated version.
No trashing, just think these are not iconic designs as I’m used to from Apple.
G3 is the most iconic, yours is also. 2006 MacBook (all white/all black plastic) is also iconic to some like me. Not these.
Seen them and personally I’m appalled both by colors and specially the “tricolour” effect of darker chassis back/white bezels/lighter front chin. Why not a all white option?
BTW I mention “design conscious” retail stores and just as example, not relevance, to “illustrate” my irrelevant opinion.
Also not happy to have to pay “Hermés Tax” if I want “dark grey” watch?, nowadays it seems we have to pay extra if we want understated design. In some cases that will also likely means you’ll have to get a overpowered machine just for that.
 
The Chin won't be reduced as M Pro and M Max thermals require larger twin fans. Likely just as big as the other 27" retina iMacs. The air intake and exhaust would also be in the chin's base as well as the 6 way speakers. Yes no one in their right mind would have the hot SoC under the display. ;)
Not convinced, the iPad Pro has an M1 without fans, I don’t see why the iMac Pro can’t have the SoC behind the screen with fans.

I’ve said on previous posts that I hope for a chinless design so we can have a matching standalone screen that is basically an iMac Pro without the computer.
 
Not convinced, the iPad Pro has an M1 without fans, I don’t see why the iMac Pro can’t have the SoC behind the screen with fans.

I’ve said on previous posts that I hope for a chinless design so we can have a matching standalone screen that is basically an iMac Pro without the computer.
There’s high probability iMac will be running high demanding workloads generated on 3rd party software, thus thermal must be addressed, unlike “iOS crippled” iPad. However I agree we do not need a chin for that. I believe this will be to accommodate speakers, though “Sony” style display embedded speakers would be great… but not realistic expected. Hopefully we’ll get the “chinless” display.ALL BLACK please.
 
I know this is a rumour and it's supposedly 'base spec' but 16gb Ram and 512gb storage is pathetic for a 'Pro' machine. Cue Apple's memory tax...
Nonsense, 16GB is more than enough for most pro users, unless you're doing 4k/8k video work you really don't need more so perfectly reasonable as the base spec, more would be overkill and unnecessarily bumping up the price.

And about storage most real pro users would use a central server for their storage, so you just need something that's big enough as a scratch disk (which this is unless again if you're doing 4k/8k video work with long/large projects).

Believe it or not Apple actually now what their doing with the pro base specs and you obviously don't work in a professional environment where you'd use workstation machines or you would know all this. It's just weird that you think individual pro machines need lots of storage.
 
Damn, I'm so glad I waited and didn't go for the iMac 24" that was introduced this year.
 
Interesting news, but why can't they work on more than one iMac at a time ?
Could be that some part of the design needed more work than expected, or a design team is overloaded, or was allocated to some other project (MacBook Pro, iPad, …). This was a major redesign (hardware as well as packaging), so probably took much more work than usual. Sometimes sequencing is more efficient (it also lets you work out issues once and then apply lessons the second time)
 
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Also in the display longing list? However I must say the new 24 iMac design was a enormous disappointment. I believe this is more widespread than some may believe, as an example, these don’t seem to be making their way to “design conscious” retail stores cashiers which usually have one sitting there for the “coolness” effect…
After a 18 months of lockdown, riots, looting and such, having a “cool” register that sticks out like a sore thumb with a flashy color is very low on the priority list right now. Surviving as a small business is the only priority.
 
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