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If the iMac Pro came with nvidia quadros / or high end GTXs it would be a no-brainer. So much professional software out there not optimised for AMD. I probably will build an 18 core PC myself come winter.
I get the feeling Mac Pro will sell more than iMac pro due to this....software not utilizing amd gpu.

Edit: then again...we got doped up sierra that supports egpu.
 
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This right here is the problem. People bitch and moan when Apple doesn't make a Mac, then people bitch and moan when Apple does make a Mac.

I'm not bitching and moaning about Apple extending the life of the Mac platform for a few more years. As long as enough people are still willing to buy the products in a declining market, Apple should invest a small proportion of time creating products with outstanding profit margins on them.

Personally I think the post-PC era really kicks into top gear when iOS 11 launches later this year. I'm really excited to see where iPad Pro goes from here.
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To be fair the new iPad Pro now has more computational power than my Quad Core i7 iMac sitting on my desk.

Yep. The power and performance of the new iPad Pro devices is really incredible. I have to pinch myself to believe this stuff is true sometimes. It is insane that Apple now has surpassed the computational power of almost all iMacs sitting on the desks of the "power users".
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But you already posted you would be upgrading your 2016 MacBook Pro to the latest version due to the incredible performance increase.

I have, and I still love the MacBook Pro line with incredible technologies such as Touch Bar and Touch ID. But I'll readily admit I'm wasting money because I use macOS for less than 30 minutes most days now, but I still like owning the newest and shiniest versions of all the Apple products I own. For me, iOS can pretty much do it all now.
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you can't write a novel on the ipad pro, so what kind of important work are you talking about?

Actually I know people who have written novels using only their iPad, so you are plainly wrong. I explained my own "important work" in an earlier post in the thread.
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Yeah, well, neither are you the average user who is targeted with the Mac Pro/iMac Pro ... :rolleyes: You getting your Mac Pro was way overkill in the first place. Because, you're right: you can easily do all this on an iPad. Don't even need an iPad "Pro" (hell, my hubby is doing all this on his Air 2)

Let's talk again if you need "real" software...like...say...CAD, or...dunno...Matlab? But assuming by what you posted above, you probably didn't even know these exist :rolleyes:

CAD is of no personal interest to me, but I do know great quality CAD apps certainly do exist on the iOS platform - and they are becoming more advanced all the time.
 
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More like "Oh no!"

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Lol. i would love to see the reviews of this iMac pro.
 
I cannot wait to get one of these! I have a Mac Pro 2013 now, it's overkill for what I need (Xcode primarily) but iMacs and Mac Books turn into really great space heaters that sound like they're about to take off when I work on them. (Maybe more to do w/Xcode at this point, 9 feels much more refined).

I hope they have some awesome thermal solution, anything with a 'Pro' to me, means all day long high performance with no restrictions due to heat.

The only issue I've ever had with my current Mac is the external (4k) display. I'm excited to transition it to a CI server and let one of these be where I work.

An Apple branded all in one with a Xeon and 5k screen? I'm drooling.
 
The cooling design does look pretty significantly upgraded as apple essentially stole the space for the 3.5 in HD, and used it for a much larger heat pipe, sink and second fan.

Here is the standard iMac.

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Here is the new iMac Pro.
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That is some seriously beautiful engineering.
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Apple designed trash can Mac Pro with zero ability to to update or upgrade. Said they made a mistake.


Make another bloody huge mistake with server grade parts in an iMac with no upgrade or update pathways!


I don't understand how a company with such talented people end up making this ****. Pros want a Mac Pro with interchangeable parts like any other desktop machine. You don't want to get two years down the line and have no options to upgrade the graphics card and resort to relying on Apple to update!

I despair at the incompetence demonstrated by this product.

This is an iMac Pro. If you know what "iMac" stands for, you should understand it.

In case you have not been following the coverage of Apple executives' talk, they are also working on a modular Mac Pro.

One does not exclude the other. However, for many, even the iMac Pro will be a truly pro all-in-one solution for years.
 
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Heat! I had one of the white plastic case iMacs - the fans would just roar to displace as much heat as possible - they ran super hot and the constant sound of the fans were an annoyance. Apple no doubt has figured out heat dissipation by now - or at least quieter fans.
 
With the new "color" of the coming iMac Pro, did Apple just imply that the current iMac design is tired and outdated?
 
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That is some seriously beautiful engineering.
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This is an iMac Pro. If you know what "iMac" stands for, you should understand it.

In case you have not been following the coverage of Apple executives' talk, they are also working on a modular Mac Pro.

One does not exclude the other. However, for many, even the iMac Pro will be a truly pro all-in-one solution for years.

And when it needs an upgrade, or has an out of warranty failure, they'll have to throw away that incredible and expensive 5K display.
 
I'm sure apple has no idea how to deal with heat generation and appreciates your suggestion.
They don't. I see the CPU temperature on my rMBP go to 220˚F, and the fans aren't even spinning at full speed. WTF? It's already overheated (and shut down) twice under heavy workload, so I've installed Macs Fan Control to force the fan to run at full speed by the time it's at 200˚F.
 
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They don't. I see the CPU temperature on my rMBP go to 220˚F, and the fans aren't even spinning at full speed. WTF? It's already overheated (and shut down) twice under heavy workload, so I've installed Macs Fan Control to force the fan speed to run at full speed by the time it's at 200˚F.

Do you have a warranty on that thing? It sounds like a hw problem.
 
Maybe the coprocessor is for iDRAC :D
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Do you have a warranty on that thing? It sounds like a hw problem.
Yeah, I do, but it really just seems like the fan control software is dumb. I've seen other Macs get very hot before the fans do anything about it. Took in my mom's MBP for that, and they said it was normal for the CPU to hit 220˚F. /shrug
 
Still struggling to understand this product. Is this what "Pros" were asking for? Even less servicability/upgradability with a screen attached?

This is a pro spec'd and priced product masquerading as a device. I'm sure there are pros out there that want and need server grade Xeon (or similar) CPUs and RAM but I don't understand it in a product like this. I also think they're a minority of Pros and Prosumers overall. Server grade archicture would've been better kept for an XServe-like product intended as a processing node or, you know, a server!

Apple, give all iMacs the option of some high-end graphics without having to buy server-grade hardware! Is that too hard to understand? People have been asking for this for years. Also, a headless computer that has a high performance-to-dollar ratio and some high end graphics without going the expensive server/pro graphics route.

Apple has now fragmented its iMac lineup, forcing you to jump in at a minimum of $5,000 to get anything better than a (albeit high-end) mobile graphics card. Meanwhile the Mac Mini is basically at a netbook level of performance.

I have no faith or confidence that the new Mac Pro will be any different.
 
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I am serious.

I have the current Mac Pro and I never use it anymore. It's gathering dust while my iPad Pro devices help me get all my important work done.

The future Steve Jobs spoke of has finally arrived.

Send it to me, I am in dire need of an editing rig that can handle my astrophotography editing.
 
I have, and I still love the MacBook Pro line with incredible technologies such as Touch Bar and Touch ID. But I'll readily admit I'm wasting money because I use macOS for less than 30 minutes most days now, but I still like owning the newest and shiniest versions of all the Apple products I own. For me, iOS can pretty much do it all now.

I haven't touched my iPad in weeks despite loving it, but I spend hours and hours each day on my iMac and some more on my MBP. See? People's needs are different and what works for one person might not work for another. Seems a pretty darn hard concept for you.

But hey, good for you you have all that extra money to spend :)
 
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This building will be obsolete in couple years. Apple is moving away from Macs the future for them is on iPhones and iPads.
 
I see larger blowers. I see no guarantee it won't STILL thermal throttle under load, or be noisy, just like the current iMac.

For the poster above that said his editing podcasts is 'above the normal user': try a 40 minute compile. Any mac currently available with the possible exception of the trashcan will go into vacuum cleaner mode and possibly throttle to boot.
I have a late 2013 iMac and a late 2015 iMac for computationally heavy neuroscience work. Even with >90% CPU and RAM usage (16 GB on one machine and 32 GB on the other) for weeks with heavy drive IO my iMacs occasionally spin up the fans for a few minutes every few hours. The rest of the time they run silently. I do work in a cool office with good ventilation though.
 
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I was disappointed the new iMacs announced at WWDC17 didn't offer secure enclave and a new keyboard with touch bar.
I've got my finger hovering over the Buy button on a max spec iMac27"
It's price isn't much off the low end iMac Pro.
Yet, looking at all the pictures of the iMac Pro, it would appear to be non-trivial to upgrade the RAM.
Yes the RAM is socketed but due to the new cooling design, it's not behind the stand where the power cord comes in.
I see no panel on that aluminium backing for accessing it so peeling the display off the casing would be required.
Not tempting...
 
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