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iMac Pro May Feature Intel's Server-Grade 'Purley' Processors, ARM Coprocessor
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Jeez. Professional doesn't just mean "I make a lot of money". You could be a rich porn star who needs nothing but an iPhone, or a struggling video editor/producer working with 4K footage who really needs a lot more power from a proper computer.
"Pro" is an incredibly ambiguous and all-encompassing term. Apple have held their hands up and said that they can't impose their workflow/usage on other people, which is one of the main reasons why they announced they were working on the iMac Pro and modular Mac Pro for those niche users who weren't getting what they needed from Apple's current offerings.
It's also somewhat ironic you should talk about arrogance when that's all your comment smacked of.
Ain't that the truth. Welcome to xxxxxrumors, fill in your fav Apple-centric rumor site.
If the iMac Pro came with nvidia quadros / or high end GTXs it would be a no-brainer. So much professional software out there not optimised for AMD. I probably will build an 18 core PC myself come winter.
Your kidding right ? An iPad Pro is a pretty impressive device and perfect for web browsing and word documents but it can in no way handle a tiny fraction of the power and speed the iMac Pro will deliver.
This thing is for high end Virtual Reality content creation, 4K video editing and advanced scientific CG and CAD and CG modeling work. And even at this price it's a bargain compared to other workstation solutions. In other words it's a professional computer system for heavy duty high powered tasks - not a handheld toy.
Conversely, plenty of Pro software out there (coincidentally happens to be Apple's Pro software) which is optimised for AMD.
Also they did say they'll be making a modual Mac Pro, which I'd bet my bottom tooth means you can't only fit AMD GPUs. Something for everyone and every workflow.
Apple designed trash can Mac Pro with zero ability to to update or upgrade. Said they made a mistake.
Make another bloody huge mistake with server grade parts in an iMac with no upgrade or update pathways!
I don't understand how a company with such talented people end up making this ****. Pros want a Mac Pro with interchangeable parts like any other desktop machine. You don't want to get two years down the line and have no options to upgrade the graphics card and resort to relying on Apple to update!
I despair at the incompetence demonstrated by this product.
Make another bloody huge mistake with server grade parts in an iMac with no upgrade or update pathways!
I don't understand how a company with such talented people end up making this ****. Pros want a Mac Pro with interchangeable parts like any other desktop machine. You don't want to get two years down the line and have no options to upgrade the graphics card and resort to relying on Apple to update!
I despair at the incompetence demonstrated by this product.
I'm happy to see a new Mac in town, but is it really easier to design the iMac Pro (it took months) than the modular Mac Pro?
I'm happy having everything soldered in the MacBook because it makes it lighter, but in a desktop I really prefer modularity. I no longer want an AiO, I want a separate display and a modular machine I can service and upgrade at will (and, yes, I'm saying this after being using iMacs for years)
Please, Apple, you could have a modular Mac Pro (and better designed than the iMac Pro) before Christmas if you really wanted so.
I'm happy having everything soldered in the MacBook because it makes it lighter, but in a desktop I really prefer modularity. I no longer want an AiO, I want a separate display and a modular machine I can service and upgrade at will (and, yes, I'm saying this after being using iMacs for years)
Please, Apple, you could have a modular Mac Pro (and better designed than the iMac Pro) before Christmas if you really wanted so.
You could not be more incorrect in your statements. there are entire industries that can't wait to get their hands on a machine like this. Just because yours isn't one of them does not mean there is a market for an iMac Pro .
What do you think Pixar, Lucasfilm and Marvel make their movies on? How do you think Virtual Reality content is created? What do you think they design and build code for videogames on? Do you really think they would use a system anything remotely close to what you use in real estate? I am sure it is nothing compared what they use in science and pharmaceutical industries to work out formulas. What is the most intensive app you use in real estate ? MS Word?
Try running Maya or Unity or FinalCut ProX with 4K and see how far you get on your system. Or maybe wait days or weeks for a single file to render and wonder why you would need a professional grade machine.
Have you been living under a rock? They said they'll be making a modular Mac Pro when they said they'll make the iMac Pro (before WWDC). So you'll be getting what you desire.
iMacs have historically never been anywhere close to the upgradability of the Mac Pro anyway. This is a insanely powerful iMac for those who want one. If that doesn't suit your needs, Apple have been listening and they'll be releasing a properly upgradable Mac Pro.
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I fear you may have quoted the wrong poster... I'm very much in agreement with you.
All good points. I can't see the reason for the hate of AMD over nVidia. nVidia does not let Apple customize their chips, AMD does. Is that AMD's fault? Is that Apple's fault? No! it's nVidias fault, blame the company that's not playing nice.
Typically I find it's because Nvidia is better for gaming. I also find most people fall into the trap that more FPS in a game automatically means the GPU is better in every other aspect. It's frustrating.
Of course that couldn't be further from the truth. Just look at folding@home as one example; AMDs are on a different level.
Sure there's plenty of need for CUDA and whatnot, but Apple will be addressing that with the modular Mac Pro. Honestly not sure what all the negativity is about. People ultimately will get what they want.
All 3 of those companies use Linux rendering farms.
Honestly, this machine isn't for you. Apple is finally targeting the professional again with their hardware. Someone who needs the heavy lifting power to be more efficient will easily shell out the cash when it's essential to their bread and butter. I'd love to grab one of these but I can't justify it either.
What percent of people do you think fall into the categories that require such a computer?
I walk into design houses all the time for marketing materials and they are lined with iMacs.
You are talking about a small segment who is working on Hollywood motion pictures (different animal), complex 3D modeling (different animal), ect. Very small segment.
If you think that by developing $50mm in real estate means I made $50mm then I don't think I can have a rational conversation with you.
Free Land? Where Do I Sign Up?
Slave Labor? Thats illegal.
Free Materials? Thats theft.
Municipality without a Planning/Building Department? Don't know a single one.
Financing At 0%? Point me in that banks direction.
No, no, I'm really stupid and think that's how much money you made. Sorry for a semantic mistake. You were talking revenue. My other point still stands
You said 99.9% of pros. If you mean general population.. maybe. However, Photoshop is used in so many places, I can't see how you could use an iPad in place of it
Its pretty simple market analysis and quite obvious.
Yes there are *some* people who require more power but they are in a very small minority within the current market.
People who post on MacRumors are people who appreciate technology and probably work in associated fields. That doesn't mean they don't live in a 'technology bubble' giving them a skewed perception of the market.
And Apple, one of the largest consumer electronics manufacture in the world apparently agrees, or they wouldn't have discontinues the cheese grater MacPro.
you're missing the point. You're falling into the trap that Apple's executives fell into.
this is not a high volume product. This is a halo product. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect
They will sell few of these, at far lower margins than they're used to, even at the price they're charging.
But that's the point. This will be a showcase for the iMac. those who need the power now have a computer that can actually do heavy lifting, And it shows Apple has products that suit many people. Having a Halo product is how you attract attention.
it's like GPU market. how many people do you think run 1080's in the world who have a computer? it's a tiny fraction. But everyone talks about the 1080 and titans because theyre performance kings. That's marketting and attention to Nvidia. EVen if most people end up buying their more mainstream parts/products.
But you already posted you would be upgrading your 2016 MacBook Pro to the latest version due to the incredible performance increase.
i'm not really sure what your point is tbh..
yes, there are *some* people needing more out of a computer than possible with an iPad..
and what?
since there are only *some* people needing that, should apple not make computers for them? or what? what's your point?
We've learned not to underestimate Apple Engineers' ability to release a product too early and screw up a 1.0 hardware release. It seems to happen ESPECIALLY on the most expensive stuff.