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$12,207 with the education discount....;)

Maybe it's just me being greedy, but the education discount is always so small. But it's better than nothing.

Mac is a convenience platform, not a power platform. Whoever spends that much on a Mac is crazy, and whoever thought those prices would sell is even crazier. That’s why the trashcan Mac Pro didn’t sell, and that’s why I believe this one won’t either.

Maybe to you, to others it may be a power platform. Whatever floats your boat. Besides, just because it doesn't sell as many units doesn't mean it isn't important. There aren't very many people who make movies, but a lot of people watch the movie maker's products. However, I would like to see something more like the Cheesegrater Mac Pro and various Power Macs where you could actually add/replace multiple drives, PCIe cards, etc.
 
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I can’t imagine the component parts of a Windows machine ever coming to a total of $13k.

Mac is a convenience platform, not a power platform. Whoever spends that much on a Mac is crazy, and whoever thought those prices would sell is even crazier. That’s why the trashcan Mac Pro didn’t sell, and that’s why I believe this one won’t either.

You can configure this HP Z6 Windows machine up to $43,000: http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-z6...p_z4_and_z6_workstations/herobanner-buynow-z6
 
It’s impressive that they can pack that much heat-generating power into an iMac format. But I’m disturbed by the ad itself. Exploding internals? I hope it’s not an omen. And why the dark theme for Pro products? It’s like funeral attire for the product segment.
 
I can’t imagine the component parts of a Windows machine ever coming to a total of $13k.

Mac is a convenience platform, not a power platform. Whoever spends that much on a Mac is crazy, and whoever thought those prices would sell is even crazier. That’s why the trashcan Mac Pro didn’t sell, and that’s why I believe this one won’t either.

I'd like hear from those who are actually buying the iMac Pro, and what they will be using it for.
 
Mac OS, in the form you know it now, is a Unix operating system. It's a great OS for those looking for an alternative to Linux (Linux is targeted more towards the server market, as opposed to the creative or software development market). Final Cut is Mac-only.

Also, comparable Xeon-powered Windows workstations from HP, Lenovo etc not only come without a monitor and in a tower form factor, they also tend to come with 1000-2000W power supplies as opposed to the 500W power supply of the iMac Pro (this includes the display, if I'm not wrong). This means that the iMac Pro will use much less energy.
No. What it really means, based on years of prior iMacs experience, is that this machine will throttle down much easier than those 1000W+ machines.
 
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Mac OS, in the form you know it now, is a Unix operating system. It's a great OS for those looking for an alternative to Linux (Linux is targeted more towards the server market, as opposed to the creative or software development market). Final Cut is Mac-only.

Also, comparable Xeon-powered Windows workstations from HP, Lenovo etc not only come without a monitor and in a tower form factor, they also tend to come with 1000-2000W power supplies as opposed to the 500W power supply of the iMac Pro (this includes the display, if I'm not wrong). This means that the iMac Pro will use much less energy.
Windows workstations can be upgraded though...
 
I can’t imagine the component parts of a Kia machine ever coming to a total of $13k.

Lexus is a luxury platform, not a power platform. Whoever spends that much on a Lexus is crazy, and whoever thought those prices would sell is even crazier. That’s why the Lexus LFA didn’t sell, and that’s why I believe this one won’t either.

Fixed for a proper analogy. Don't buy a Lexus just keep driving your Kia. It gets you from point a to point b. I prefer options.
 
People complaining about the price need to realise that the iMac Pro isn't aimed at the average consumer, we are talking professional editors, content creators and so on. Movie studios will buy these, it is not very often you see a Windows machine in the editing labs (at least not here in the UK).

Right. People are comparing their "mad crazy neon-lighted, water-cooled gaming rig" they used to play COD to this, and can't reconcile the price difference. This is a totally different market segment [mostly]. $13K? Some people will bill that in under a month - heck, a machine with 8-core, 64GB, Vega 64 GPU is ~$6400, including a 5K display, for a machine with a single source service channel, that could make you way more productive - that's a week or two of revenue in some sectors.
 
13k for a “pro” machine that can never be upgraded. Ok, Apple.

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I look at it this way... The only thing you need to worry about is getting the amount of CPU cores and RAM you think you'll need for the next 5-ish years. Everything else can be added ("upgraded") with TB3, of which this thing has a generous 4 ports. Storage, displays, and even external GPUs now are no problem for this thing. Upgradability is not what it used to be with the advent of ridiculously fast modern I/O speeds. Heck, I even switched my base 2014 iMac to an external boot SSD (over USB3) because it was a lot less hassle than 'upgrading' it, among other benefits to going external.
 
I can’t imagine the component parts of a Windows machine ever coming to a total of $13k.

Mac is a convenience platform, not a power platform. Whoever spends that much on a Mac is crazy, and whoever thought those prices would sell is even crazier. That’s why the trashcan Mac Pro didn’t sell, and that’s why I believe this one won’t either.

It gets close!

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inte...threading-socket-2011-3-retail-cp-61x-in.html

Just the CPU is £2800

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sams...state-drive-mz7lm3t8hmlp-00005-hd-22v-sa.html

A 4TB SSD is £2186 so we are on almost £5000 without the 128GB RAM, 5K display, Graphics card, motherboard, keyboard and mouse.

Some of the higher end motherboards can be close to £1000 and they don't even have USB-C! and the board in this will be a high end workstation class one.

I also cannot buy it in the UK yet so cannot see what i can customise with the graphics card but a top end AMD card costs £3000

So i don't believe this machine is that badly priced for what you get.
 
Apple made an Apple Watch out of gold and priced it in Rolex territory. People bought it. "Too expensive" vs. "just right" vs. "too cheap" is all eye (or wallet) of the beholder. Try this slideshow for other examples many of us might find shocking: https://www.gobankingrates.com/making-money/splurges-filthy-rich/ And very recently this: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/15/...a-vinci-salvator-mundi-christies-auction.html with much speculation the painting might not even be authentic.

It's fake. The sphere doesn't fit. But a Saudi Prince has money to burn and took a chance. IF it's real, it'll pay out.
 
I seem to be more and more confused by some of the comments lately on macrumors.

First, this iMac is geared towards the pro market. The other existing iMac is still there with options valuable to most everyday users. Nothing has changed in that regard and I’m glad Apple is concerned about the pro users and doing something. Some people seem to think Apple should cater to the pro market but not charge a premium for premium parts.

Which brings me to my next issue or public awareness. For those that want to price out a comparable windows computer, go ahead. It’s not going to be much less if any. Xeon proxessors, the memory, graphics card and screen. I’d say you’d be over $4500 for something close. So my advice, if you don’t know why it costs this much in the first place or how it differentiates from the regular iMac, it might be best to not complain about the price and Apple charging too much.

For those that want more power because their job relies upon it, this fills a void they couldn’t get. Just some benchmarks yesterday showed exporting out a 360° video was almost double as fast as the top of the line iMac. 3-4 hrs saved rendering each video goes along way. So I’m happy for today. I’m not in a position to buy one, but I’m glad it’s there. Now to go download fcpx 10.4. :)

Edit: also, I’ve seen more and more iMacs being used in the professional industry lately due to their size and mobility. Placing them on carts for studio photography or in a video studio on a wall to control colors and cameras.
 
It gets close!

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inte...threading-socket-2011-3-retail-cp-61x-in.html

Just the CPU is £2800

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sams...state-drive-mz7lm3t8hmlp-00005-hd-22v-sa.html

A 4TB SSD is £2186 so we are on almost £5000 without the 128GB RAM, 5K display, Graphics card, motherboard, keyboard and mouse.

Some of the higher end motherboards can be close to £1000 and they don't even have USB-C! and the board in this will be a high end workstation class one.

I also cannot buy it in the UK yet so cannot see what i can customise with the graphics card but a top end AMD card costs £3000

So i don't believe this machine is that badly priced for what you get.
You didn't have to go through all that work. Simply price an HP Z series workstation. You'll blow past $13K without even blinking.
 
It's 14 hours, 13 minutes into 14 Dec, and yet in the UK, you can't order it even if you wanted to.
It's been available to order in the UK for a while but it's only currently available on the iOS Apple Store app.

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Complaining about the price is like complaining about the cost of the new Tesla semi. 1. You have no clue who and why someone would pay this much for something 'you' would never use or need. But professionals understand the long term investment. And the ROI. More up front is not the same as 'cost'. That's entirely short sighted.
 
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