You aren't mistaken. But you did miss the point I was making. Those CPU's already exist and are already in Apple Products. So, there is no need for Intel to do anything, contrary to what iBluetooth was implying.
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iMac Pro Works With Apple's New Pro Display XDR, But Limited to 5K Resolution
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Curious, I was checking the tech specs and the iMac Pro only supports 5k output, now that is usually a hardware limitation, I am not seeing on vendor's websites that the hardware in the iMac Pro supports 6k. So are you saying shame on the GPU makers for not making their products future proof, or are you saying shame on Apple for not predicting 6k in 2017 and creating GPUs that supported it? How about 8k or 12k then?
That's nothing compared to the egg on Steve's face-- my PowerMac G5 can't even drive it at 5k!
Lol, what an overreaction. The 16” MBP is newer than the iMac Pro. This is what happens in tech.
Get over it or use one of the others options for 6K.
I suppose those who "need it" are those who need a reference monitor, $6000 is way cheaper than the competition in reference monitors. Not being a needer myself, I can't really speak to the why. I can surmise, that if there are companies that make them, then there are people buying them.
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kind, sort of. Intel is suffering with shortages and not being able to keep up or roll out technology. Their Ice lake architecture seems to have some great graphics, but they can't produce anything better than a 4-core. so you are both sort of right. Intel does "make" them, but doesn't really "make" them.
Have they gotten target display mode working on the iMac 5k yet? That would get it down to $1799...
oh man, where do you get your material? Is that all you see as the differences in features/technology? How about Xeon's versus Intels I series? Don't ask me to justify Intels price difference, but Xeon's cost way more, and require ECC memory which also costs way more, then there are the graphics boards. It seems like you are saying "darn them for selling a significantly more expensive computer for more than a less expensive one, darn them, darn them all"
Honestly, if Apple really wants to move the iMac (Pro) to larger than 27", they should just adopt LG's 34WK95U-W panel.
The Timing Controller (which is necessary to drive the panel at 60Hz) doesn't allow for TDM.
Time to update the iMac Pro. Heck, the MBP 16 can drive two XDR’s.
Hopefully by April, we can have an update.
also I would love a stand alone 27” 5k displays with nano tech at $2k. But Apple won’t do it.
Hopefully by April, we can have an update.
also I would love a stand alone 27” 5k displays with nano tech at $2k. But Apple won’t do it.
iMac Pro updates were due earlier this year. Any iMac Pro updates in 2020 would just eat into their Mac Pro sales. I don't see it happening.
The current iMac Pros are pretty old at this point, so no big surprise. Update coming next year.
Nope, the iMac Pro will never be updated and will just fade into oblivion.
The iMac Pro was a stop gap product designed in a very short time to try to keep "pros" from leaving the platform while they were designing the Mac Pro that took a lot longer than they anticipated.
The iMac Pro is "just" the ordinary 5K iMac with some "pro" parts squeezed in to try to sway people that Apple was still catering to the pros. It was never intended to be updated or get a second generation. Now that the Mac Pro is out, it will probably be discontinued in the coming months.
The iMac Pro was a stop gap product designed in a very short time to try to keep "pros" from leaving the platform while they were designing the Mac Pro that took a lot longer than they anticipated.
The iMac Pro is "just" the ordinary 5K iMac with some "pro" parts squeezed in to try to sway people that Apple was still catering to the pros. It was never intended to be updated or get a second generation. Now that the Mac Pro is out, it will probably be discontinued in the coming months.
Sure but that's not the same. With a modular desktop one could simply install Thunderbolt 3 PCIE card (or a new graphics card or even replace a motherboard). PCIE card would cost about $60. External GPU? Order of magnitude more.
I have two. I got the first when they were first available and decided to bite the bullet and get a second figuring it would be a while before I there were sub-$1000 5Ks available.
I gotta say, almost three years of use and I still love these monitors, even with their quirks (mainly the volume adjustment issues). I've moved to more remote work as of late and brought my office unit home. Turns out my wife really likes 5K too, haha.
Unless an aluminum case is the most important thing about a monitor to you, these 5Ks are really nice. The biggest complaint I have is the lack of inputs though. It would be nice to be able to use one with my eGPU other than the Black Magic unit.
Not on the iMac Pro...it has two Alpine Ridge controllers on the motherboard.
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Target Display Mode hasn’t worked on the iMac since the Late 2013 model. It has never been supported by the 5K iMac or the iMac Pro.
In this case, though, it really isn't Apple's. Intel did not offer any newer CPUs until very recently and those are under severe production constraint. And the AMD Pro 5000 series was not released until just before the MacBook Pro 16" (which is probably why the mid-2019 15" was released with Vega 20 as it's top spec).
Not really. Getting a decent enclosure costs money up front, but the enclosure should last across multiple video card upgrades. Plus if you get the right enclosure it can serve as a laptop charger and a dock—both items are kinda pricy.
There are a lot of options better than the BlackMagic that Apple sells. The only thing the BlackMagic has going for it is that it can power a Thunderbolt Display, but not being able to upgrade the card inside makes it a much, much more expensive and short-lived option.
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That is/was such a weird feature. Did anyone make heavy use of it?
I still use it, but my use case is weird. My dad's 2010 27" iMac has some hardware issues—the speakers don't work and it's no longer getting software updates from Apple. I turned it into a Time Machine server, moved him to a laptop, and he still uses the display. The 2010 model is still a pretty darn nice 1440p display.
I don't know if you tried, but there was a firmware update for exactly that. Woot was selling refurbished 4Ks for $180 at one point and I'm kicking myself for not picking up more.
It’s not really that sensible. Intel has announced the W-2200 CPUs that Apple will use in the new iMac Pro, Apple’s wouldn’t update iMac Pro using the 2017 CPUs.Wouldn't a more sensible request entail asking Apple to update the iMP's TB3 controller? I mean, it's not like Apple would need to wait on Intel to do that. It's not like Apple would have to wait on Intel to do anything amirite?
In March or maybe WWDC Apple will release the 2020 iMac Pro with the new CPUs.
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Starts at $4,999 now. As I said before, I do not think it will have all the XDR features. Just the 6K resolution, P3 colour and 10-bit panel. It wont be HDR enabled etc - I would put the price either the same or $5,999.
But I'm literally just doing a guess.
You missed the point. The Intel CPU's with updated TB3 controllers already exist and are already in Apple products. Whether they'd choose to give the iMac Pro a simple spec update is immaterial. It's a fact that there is no need for Intel to do anything for Apple to update the iMac Pro to support the XDR Monitor.