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iMac Pro Works With Apple's New Pro Display XDR, But Limited to 5K Resolution
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Lol didn’t know it was possible to experience nirvana over purchasing a computer. Weird
Nirvana: a state of perfect happiness.
Nerd nirvana: achieving a state of perfect happiness through the purchase of the mythical, perfect computer.
Unfortunately, nerd nirvana is perpetually unattainable since the perfect computer isn’t on the market yet.
PS Nice content-free reply lol.
I'm sorry, did you want them to go forward in time and purchase Titan Ridge TB controllers before they existed and put them inside the iMac Pro? That's the only solution to the problem here. The only "egg" on anyone's face here is that on all of the people commenting who couldn't even be bothered to read this entire short blog post to understand why this is the case. Intel doesn't have the chips ready for the iMac Pro refresh yet, so that's why we are in this situation to begin with. In no way, shape or form is this Tim Cook's fault.
- The iMac Pro does not work at 6K with the new 6K display, using the internal GPU
- The iMac Pro does work at 6K with the new 6K display, using the appropriate eGPU
- The iMac Pro does work at 5K with the new 6K display
However, there’s no need to be concerned; newer machines with upgraded hardware will drive the 6K at its full resolution.
The Dell 8K has broader compatibility, it only requires DisplayPort 1.4 HBR3 ports, not Thunderbolt 3. That's because it uses two separate links over two separate cables and tiles the image together. Thus, in theory (but probably not in practice), you could get it to work all the way back to the 2016 Touchbar MacBook Pros.
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So it will or won’t display greater than 5K with iMac Pro, older Mac Pros/MBP? I haven’t researched the a Dell 8K.
I’m not sure if you’re making a general observation or actually replying to my comment.
It's an observation that just because the Dell 8K, or any other monitor has more pixels, doesn't mean it won't work on computers that Apple's 6K won't. Dell showed that you can push more pixels than Apple through 2016-era hardware simply by using a second cable.
Apple implemented the Pro Display in one manner, which requires the latest hardware, but it doesn't mean there's other alternate methods that have existed prior. It is a legitimate complaint that Apple chose to only support the latest hardware.
Yikes, how embarrassing.
The article is talking about iMac Pro, not Mac Pro
Ha,ha. SNAP! I should read more carefully. 🤮
It’s definitely a complaint.
Whether it’s legit or not is debatable ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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It’s ok lol... happens to me all the time
PS sorry for the eye roll, it wasn’t necessary. I tend to be rather sarcastic.
So the list for the next iteration of the iMac Pro should be
- Xeon W-2255, 2265, 2275, 2295 (10-core needs to becomes the new base model)
- Updated Radeon Pro Vega II GPU or Radeon Pro 5700X
- 1, 2, 4 and 8TB SSD
- Up to 512GB DDR4-2933 ECC DRAM
- 802.11AX, if possible
- BT 5.0
- 10GbE
- 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports, 2 buses, capable of driving up to two Pro XDR displays, 2 5K or 3 4K displays
- 4 USB 3.0 ports
- SDXC UHS-II slot
- 1080p FaceTime
- Xeon W-2255, 2265, 2275, 2295 (10-core needs to becomes the new base model)
- Updated Radeon Pro Vega II GPU or Radeon Pro 5700X
- 1, 2, 4 and 8TB SSD
- Up to 512GB DDR4-2933 ECC DRAM
- 802.11AX, if possible
- BT 5.0
- 10GbE
- 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports, 2 buses, capable of driving up to two Pro XDR displays, 2 5K or 3 4K displays
- 4 USB 3.0 ports
- SDXC UHS-II slot
- 1080p FaceTime
Yeah, either return it or exchange it. That isn't right if that is the best you can tune it.
Not sure it’ll start at 10-core but why not, there will be a 10-core 16” MBP when Comet Lake is released iirc and 10-core regular iMacs too. Vega II would be a great upgrade but yikes it’s +2,400 on the new MP... but it is what it is. The W5700X would be the base I guess? Dual W5700X mid-tier and Vega II at the top?
8TB SSD is a lock and 512GB RAM (4 sockets) is extremely likely as well. 802.11ax is supported by the W-2200 series. The current iMac Pro supports four 4K, everything else is a continuation of the 2017 I think?
The biggest upgrades are the memory and GPU; the CPUs are mostly iterative but what are you going to do? The Intel price cuts will cover the better spec’d GPU and likely price cuts for CPU upgrades.
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It does work, just at 5k. So a customer can make the choice. Or if they need to temporarily move the display from a Mac Pro to the iMac Pro in the corner for a specific need. Why would they say that 'it doesn't work', which usually means it won't display a usable image in any way? The current description is correct.
Be aware that it works, BUT only this way due to the hardware in the iMac Pro.
And with an external TB3 GPU, you can get the full 6k with an iMac Pro. Another way that it "works" wouldn't you say?
Why do people go for "second best" and buy the MacBook Air when they could have a 16" MacBook Pro?
Marco Armett has more than enough money to buy a Mac Pro just for the heck of it, and he's on record as saying he doesn't see the benefit over his iMac Pro for the work he does. Casey Liss just bought an iMac Pro because stretching to a Mac Pro would be a serious financial burden and one he cannot justify for the work he does. I am pretty confident they are not alone in viewing the Mac Pro as an unnecessary expense for their workloads compared to the iMac Pro. IMO, people like John Siracusa who will pay more for the Mac Pro just to have a Mac Pro are the outliers. And he literally saved a decade for it.
The Mac Pro is the Macintosh IIfx of today - a machine with no compromises (for a Mac). And like the IIfx, it has a price tag to reflect that (actually the IIfx was more expensive in non-adjusted dollars and three times the price of a Mac Pro when adjusted for inflation). If your workload (or your revenues) require that, then that is the machine for you. If not, then there are cheaper options - starting with the iMac Pro.
Because not everyone keeps their machines for a decade? Especially in a large-scale production environment?
Nobody is shooting video at 120fps and if your argument is it should support 120Hz for playing First-Person Shooter games...
Please spare me your lessons when to speak. By your logic a laptop with a sub4k display shouldn't be able to drive a 6k display either. Yet it does.
Two of them do - both released after the technology allowing it was released.
The current Mac Mini also has a Titan Ridge TB3 controller as does the 2018 and later MacBook Pro 13" and the MacBook Air Retina, but none of them can drive the XDR display because the Intel iGPUs do not support DisplayPort 1.4 (and likely do not have the horsepower to drive a 6K display natively).
One could always add it via PCIe card.
I wonder how many actually would use wireless versus wired (I would not be surprised if a significant number were wired to connect to SANs).
The Mac Pro’s W-32xx Xeons don’t support it, the W-22xx that will be in the iMac Pro refresh expected 1H2020 do have WiFi 6 support. If someone really needs that capability for their 2019 MP, they’ll grab a card.
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That’s not the logic at all; no one suggested the external video resolution is limited to the resolution of the attached display. Some newer Macs support external 6K displays, some don’t, but the resolution of their built-in display is not particularly relevant. No 2017 or earlier Mac—desktop or laptop—can display 6K without using an eGPU.
The 2017 and older iMac/iMac Pro has hardware that is capable of driving a 5K external display. That doesn’t change just because 6K monitors are released 3 years later. Supporting newer, higher resolution monitors requires newer hardware.
Expecting 5K hardware to drive 6K displays at 6K makes as much sense as expecting USB 2.0 ports to operate at 5 or 10Gbps just because USB 3 peripherals are released. It doesn’t work that way.
The best you can hope for is peripherals with backward compatibility. Apple’s XDR monitor is indeed backward compatible with older hardware ports that max out at 5K, as it is capable of displaying 5K. But no computer can suddenly start to output 6K just because you attach it to a 6K monitor.
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Nobody is shooting video at 120fps and if your argument is it should support 120Hz for playing First-Person Shooter games...
Nobody? You must be joking or no idea 120fps video does exist and anyone working on a film industry might find it absurd that the $6000 Apple Pro Display lack 120Hz!!!
You are not playing back video at 120fps. Yes we shoot at 120 and even 1000fps but it is never played back at those speeds.