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iMac redesign in late 2012

stevelam said:
completely wrong.

ever since lion was made available in the app store, the license agreement has been changed to this:

"The OS X Lion Software License Agreement allows you to install and use the software for your personal, non-commercial use on all the Macs you own or control that are running Mac OS X Snow Leopard or Snow Leopard Server (a Mac Computer)"

so you can download using the same account on each computer and upgrade them like that.
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Read my post... well, you actually QUOTED me saying that it would be used for BUSINESS. Not personal uses. The license agreement only allows multiple installs for PERSONAL use.



physical backups = external drives. why would anyone store their actual backup in the same machine? that makes no sense and defeats the whole purpose of having a backup if your computer completely fails. besides, who the heck still backs up on to dvd/cd discs anymore???
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My apologies on this as I misspoke in my previous post. I specifically meant Cloud drives and not regular external HD's. That said, believe it or not but there are still a lot of businesses and people who still use CD/DVD as backup medium. Photographers, designers, print industry, videography.. so on. I'm not talking whole system backups obviously, but job files, archives, etc. It's especially handy for transporting large files between customers and the prepress department at the print shop I work at.

i don't know if you've noticed, but apple has ALWAYS been the one forcing and pushing new tech. most obvious and recent example would be completely leaving flash unsupported on iOS devices.
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Never noticed...
 
I've got a slightly different take on removing the DVD drive. People on this forum often complain about the lack of user-repairable parts in the iMac. While I don't have Mac experience (I'm waiting for the 2012 iMacs to buy my first), in more than a decade of PCs the component I've had the most trouble with is the ODD. I've had more ODDs replaced for one reason or another than any other component. On all my PCs, both towers and laptops, it's been easy to swap the drive out on my own, but of course that's not so easy on an iMac. By relegating the ODD, which at least some people don't even need, to an external device, they'd take what's been in my experience the most failure-prone computer component and make it trivial to replace.

And since even those people who do still need a DVD drive probably don't need it every time they use their computers, it isn't too hard to stash the drive away between uses to keep the desk clutter-free. (My most recent laptop has no ODD, and it's no trouble at all to keep an external drive in a drawer between occasional uses.)

Best of all would be if they'd use the space left after removing the ODD for a user-serviceable hard drive, though I'm not holding my breath on that one.
 
I don't agree with removing the optical drive. I think this will happen in 2-3 years. Right now there are soooooo many thins you still use a DVD or CD. if someone wants to give you some files, they (your grandma, that aunt that wants to give you ten million photos you don't want) will often give it to you they don't expect to get back. A cd or DVD.

I hope for removal of the chin or make it into SSD storage ore something usefull. I would love to see it look like a ACD. Less aluminum, more black. Glowing apple.
 
RobinHood5 said:
I don't agree with removing the optical drive. I think this will happen in 2-3 years. Right now there are soooooo many thins you still use a DVD or CD. if someone wants to give you some files, they (your grandma, that aunt that wants to give you ten million photos you don't want) will often give it to you they don't expect to get back. A cd or DVD.

I hope for removal of the chin or make it into SSD storage ore something usefull. I would love to see it look like a ACD. Less aluminum, more black. Glowing apple.
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If grandma can make a cd, surely you can teach her how to drag and drop into Dropbox. :)

I think there are good arguments on both side as to whether we will see it left out of the 2012 iMac. I wouldn't mind either way.
 
Logos327 said:
If grandma can make a cd, surely you can teach her how to drag and drop into Dropbox. :)

I think there are good arguments on both side as to whether we will see it left out of the 2012 iMac. I wouldn't mind either way.
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Yeah, I just had a terrible time showing her how to backup her financial files on an external USB HDD. Also, she has the slowest Internet known to mankind... Takes 10mins to check emails. It's just about right for her, runs at her pace.
 
If we'll see a redesigned iMac the dvd-drive is most likely thrown out. If there won't be a redesign, Apple will keep the dvd-drive.

One indication of a possible redesign is the lower TPD's in Intel Ivy Bridge. This could result in a slimmer/less chin iMac. My personally guess is that Apple will stick to the current design, but you never know :)
 
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+1 looking at the 21.5" looks well small but it coming with the quad core i5 and the fact I have £1000 to spend on one I think it's pretty appealing.

As for the 27" some people have said about a screen real estate being to big and safari showing webssites so small on it

And I do agree, the 24" is 'juuuuuuuuust right :p
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Honestly, when I first got the 27 (even though I knew that's the one I wanted) I was overwhelmed by the screen. Now when I go to my buddies house, his 21 seems ridiculously small to me. That's not to say that people can't be satisfied with the 21, but I think anyone who can't decide between the two solely because they are wondering if the 27 will be too big or ot not should just go for it because it becomes norm in no time, I promise. As far as people who say there is too much white on the screen on sites such as Google, why does the window have to be maximized? Just my $.02. :apple:
 
lifeguard90 said:
I dont see the optical drive going away quite yet for desktop
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i see a sense in a portable device (they wanna make it flatter, optimize the space for 2 hdds-ssds whatever)

but i dont see a point in an imac
imho it will stay into the iMac for another 5 years (change to bluray burner later)

inside an imac you could even put a chicken, the macbookpro (and air) are obsessively looking for room.
 
I've already ripped my library (600 cds)... I used an external drive to do it, because it was a lot faster than waiting for the built-in drive.
 
paulbee said:
I've got a slightly different take on removing the DVD drive. People on this forum often complain about the lack of user-repairable parts in the iMac. While I don't have Mac experience (I'm waiting for the 2012 iMacs to buy my first), in more than a decade of PCs the component I've had the most trouble with is the ODD. I've had more ODDs replaced for one reason or another than any other component. On all my PCs, both towers and laptops, it's been easy to swap the drive out on my own, but of course that's not so easy on an iMac. By relegating the ODD, which at least some people don't even need, to an external device, they'd take what's been in my experience the most failure-prone computer component and make it trivial to replace.

And since even those people who do still need a DVD drive probably don't need it every time they use their computers, it isn't too hard to stash the drive away between uses to keep the desk clutter-free. (My most recent laptop has no ODD, and it's no trouble at all to keep an external drive in a drawer between occasional uses.)

Best of all would be if they'd use the space left after removing the ODD for a user-serviceable hard drive, though I'm not holding my breath on that one.
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Good argument. Never took into account the fail rate of ODD's. In my experience with Macs, however, I must have been fairly lucky as I have never had an ODD fail in a Mac. Only in the 2-3 PC's I've owned over the years.

One thing that irks me though is the thought that Apple would eliminate an ODD from the iMac without ever offering an internal Blu-Ray drive. Now, when it comes to burning Blu-Rays, I imagine that an external would be much much faster than an internal in an iMac. But at the same time, for people who like to use the iMac as a sort of entertainment center (not a true, dedicated system, but for occasional viewing, esp. 27" screens), the option of a Blu-Ray reader would be very very attractive.

A user serviceable SSD would be about the only reason I would agree with in regards to replacing the ODD at the moment. Times are constantly changing though :D
 
Possibility: Apple removes the ODD and uses the space to add a second graphics card in crossfire to power a "Retina" style IGZO panel, much the way they upped the GPU cores in the iPad3.

For the record, I don't think this will happen until Haswell is released next year
 
Could always wish for "iMac Pro" edition of the 27" inches - where more complicated options such as switching the ODD for another HD slot or a better GPU or whatnot would be possible. This is not the Apple way of course, we all know that, but it'd be a wise move if the Mac Pro proves to be discontinued.
 
Mister Bumbo said:
Could always wish for "iMac Pro" edition of the 27" inches - where more complicated options such as switching the ODD for another HD slot or a better GPU or whatnot would be possible. This is not the Apple way of course, we all know that, but it'd be a wise move if the Mac Pro proves to be discontinued.
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Good point. Id vote for that buy imac without a od but a real gpu
 
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