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You're missing the point, I was addressing a member stating that the OP needed it for work, and 3 weeks means he cannot work. My point was that if he needed it for work, then he had to address the lack of computer even before handing the computer over to apple.
 
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You're missing the point, I was addressing a member stating that the OP needed it for work, and 3 weeks means he cannot work. My point was that if he needed it for work, then he had to address the lack of computer even before handing the computer over to apple.
I did see that you were responding to another member, but as you'll see below, the OP didn't say he 'cannot work', but that he used 'this computer for work', and 'that's why it is necessary'. Despite the 'necessary' remarks, there appears a lack of urgency, as noted, by the comment that 'it even crossed my mind to buy a new iMac'.
I use this computer for work. That's why it is necessary. And I told Apple this. They don't care.

It even crossed my mind to buy a new iMac and just sell the repaired iMac whenever I get it. BUT I'm afraid in a couple years I will be in the same position again because Apple is not addressing this design flaw with a cable overheating behind the display causing lines.

And there is a reason why I am having to wait so long for this part. Because this is a common issue everyone is having with the iMac.
 
I did see that you were responding to another member, but as you'll see below, the OP didn't say he 'cannot work', but that he used 'this computer for work', and 'that's why it is necessary'. Despite the 'necessary' remarks, there appears a lack of urgency, as noted, by the comment that 'it even crossed my mind to buy a new iMac'.
I know, but that other member wanted to die on that hill, and I was pointing out the weak stance of that position.

I get that it can be frustrating, and maybe its the stores fault, the OP seems to have gotten some resolution, but that doesn't take away the fact that its a 5 year old computer that they don't make anymore and any parts they have are largely from scavenged computers in their inventory. Throw in the supply chain woes we've been dealing with and one has to understand you may not get fast response.
 
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I know, but that other member wanted to die on that hill, and I was pointing out the weak stance of that position.

I get that it can be frustrating, and maybe its the stores fault, the OP seems to have gotten some resolution, but that doesn't take away the fact that its a 5 year old computer that they don't make anymore and any parts they have are largely from scavenged computers in their inventory. Throw in the supply chain woes we've been dealing with and one has to understand you may not get fast response.
I agree with all you say. just had a quick look, and the M1 iMac hasn't been obsoleted yet, so Apple are supporting it. For me, Apple should be giving 'accurate timeframes', and clear messaging. It does call into question too, how long should you be able to have AppleCare on a product.
 
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so Apple are supporting it
I agree, and I'm not saying apple shouldn't do better, they absolutely should, especially given how the store mentioened he's 20th in line and the phone support was like uhhh no, and the person he talked too wasn't a manager either.

I'm all for escalating, and going over someone's head and the OP did that, but marching in there demanding a free new computer because his 5 year old computer hasn't been fixed yet seemed rather extreme and tbh, very karen like
 
I agree, and I'm not saying apple shouldn't do better, they absolutely should, especially given how the store mentioened he's 20th in line and the phone support was like uhhh no, and the person he talked too wasn't a manager either.

I'm all for escalating, and going over someone's head and the OP did that, but marching in there demanding a free new computer because his 5 year old computer hasn't been fixed yet seemed rather extreme and tbh, very karen like
Gotta love Karen - post Covid I have missed her. Mind you, it seems the Gen Z era are all about catastrophizing too!
 
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I agree, and I'm not saying apple shouldn't do better, they absolutely should, especially given how the store mentioened he's 20th in line and the phone support was like uhhh no, and the person he talked too wasn't a manager either.

I'm all for escalating, and going over someone's head and the OP did that, but marching in there demanding a free new computer because his 5 year old computer hasn't been fixed yet seemed rather extreme and tbh, very karen like
If I was given some sort of timeline, I wouldn't have been so pushy.

But after 3 weeks when you are still given no timeline, and what the Apple Store worker is saying makes no sense (as confirmed by the phone call with AppleCare support), I feel like I did not cross the line here.
 
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OP:

Since you use the Mac for work, you might give some serious consideration to having a second Mac around, as a hardware backup.

I'd suggest an Apple-refurbished m4 Mini, properly equipped.
If it's just going to be "a backup", then almost any display will do.
I'd look for a decent 27" 4k monitor.

Might even be able to write this down as a business expense...
 
OP:

Since you use the Mac for work, you might give some serious consideration to having a second Mac around, as a hardware backup.

I'd suggest an Apple-refurbished m4 Mini, properly equipped.
If it's just going to be "a backup", then almost any display will do.
I'd look for a decent 27" 4k monitor.

Might even be able to write this down as a business expense...
I'm going to eventually get a Mac Mini and the upcoming Studio Display 2.

I will again, get AppleCare for this new iMac. I just like the all-in-one aspect of the iMac. It's a gorgeous computer. Just wish I could trust the longevity of it.
 
UPDATE: I got a replacement!

I called AppleCare and explained to them what was said to me at the Apple Store and how I was given no estimate time of repair after almost 3 weeks.

AppleCare then called a repair depot. I was not on this call but I am going to assume the repair depot said it was going to be a long wait for a lcd panel.

AppleCare then reached out to my Apple Store and I am guessing what was said to me at the Apple Store today was not accurate and/or appropriate.

They asked me to come back down to the store tonight and I was able to get a new M4 iMac.

While I don't think the Apple Store handled the situation appropriately at all, and I do think there is a display issue with iMac's which will require a recall in the future, I am satisfied with how this was resolved. It just took a lot of effort.
This is literally what should have happened from the start. Apple has a policy for delayed repairs, the timer is usually something like 21 days to trigger a replacement if parts are still unavailable. It applies to Macs, not iOS devices, not sure if there is a similar policy for those. Glad it got taken care of.
 
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My 2021 iMac which is still under warranty (AppleCare+) just stopped working. When I turned it on, the screen stayed black and had vertical lines.

I took it to Apple on January 24th to be repaired. It's now February 12th and zero update. I called Apple and was told they are waiting on a lcd panel and there are none available at the moment. They have no idea when a panel will be available. Which leaves me without my iMac indefinitely.

At what point do I personally go to my local Apple Store that I took my iMac to be repaired and demand a replacement?
Welcome to the world of why not to buy All-In-One computers.
 
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Because Apple doesn't offer a small business plan. They offer plans for very large businesses, and they offer consumer plans. There is no such thing as a "business" plan for the majority of Apple-using professionals.


I never had to have a Dell LCD replaced, so wouldn't know about that. But I do know that when I had to have my laptop repaired, the diagnostics were all of two questions: "What is your serial number, and what seems to be the problem?" The problem in my case was clearly hardware (two USB ports were dead). Based on the few other instances where I've seen colleagues need to get their machines serviced, the experience was the same. To my knowledge, nobody in my firm has ever had to take apart a Dell laptop for any reason.


They walk around with pretty much every other part. Not sure why display panels would be any different. Again, though, I haven't seen one fail nearly as often as I've seen Apple displays fail, so it could just be inexperience with that particular type of repair.


Not all businesses are "corporate customers". Especially not to Apple. OP is not a corporate customer. He's a business customer. And like most Apple business customers, he had to learn the hard way why you should never rely on Apple to make a living.
Lol what? Now you are just making stuff up like Apple doesn’t support small businesses. Apple has a small business program. it’s pretty good which includes device management and zero touch deployment. None of these guys walk around nor do they have means to replace displays onsite. Dell and HP usually give loaners to corp customers not consumers.
Another big reason I don’t buy or never bought an iMac. I am not with out a computer if display breaks.
I have relied on Apple for my business for more than 15 years. I moved from Lenovo and never looked back.
 
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I'm sure it will be repaired. But I'm thinking this will take months.
Just realistically... Apple has a small business umbrella where you get a different tier of service, just like you get on site service for a Mac Pro, or if nothing available in your location you take it to a qualified Apple service tech which is usually a server support co, and they take care of your very rapidly (72 hours max in my experience - Nobody at an Apple Store has ever seen a Mac Pro or knows how to work on one, unless you're in a large city like NYC, LA, whatever).

Nobody at Apple actually considers anybody at an Apple Store an "Apple employee" take that for what it is, their opinions are somewhat irrelevant. I'd just escalate, call Apple directly, do not be rude or obnoxious, be polite and express your love of Apple products and disappointment at what's happened to a machine you depend on, and you'll probably get a very fast and positive response. i.e., somebody will shrug and just give you a new computer, because they're not paying for it.

Having said all that, it's not a very expensive computer and it's pretty old, so your milage may vary.

TL;DR: Be polite, call Apple directly, escalate to a manger, express your situation. Apple Store is worthless for these conversations, nobody at Apple itself cares what they think/want.
 
Lol what? Now you are just making stuff up like Apple doesn’t support small businesses. Apple has a small business program. it’s pretty good which includes device management and zero touch deployment.
I assume you're referring to this. That is nothing at all like what we were talking about. Apple's Small Business service is more akin to a tech services consultancy that manages software and device deployment and security and has nothing to do with expedited on-site hardware repairs. It is more akin to something like a simplified Microsoft Entra device management with some mobile device management added.

The closest thing that Apple offers to Dell's ProSupport plans is AppleCare for Enterprise which has a minimum enrolment requirement of 200 devices.

None of these guys walk around nor do they have means to replace displays onsite.
Since we're talking about iMacs in this thread, sure. But many laptops still use hinge designs that can be quite easily replaced on-site with little more than a screwdriver. I find it hard to believe that a tech who carries around laptop motherboards and outer shells would not also carry around commonly-used displays.

Dell and HP usually give loaners to corp customers not consumers.
The definition of "corp" customers being the key thing here. Dell will offer "corp" service to anyone who buy a business-level machine with a high-enough ProSupport plan. Including my 30 employee firm and OP's single-person (presumably) business.

I suspect you have a lot more personal experience with HP and Lenovo than you do with Dell. I have no experience with HP or Lenovo so I'll take your word for it.

Another big reason I don’t buy or never bought an iMac. I am not with out a computer if display breaks.
I guess you also don't use a laptop, then?

I have relied on Apple for my business for more than 15 years. I moved from Lenovo and never looked back.
Use what works best for you.
 
I assume you're referring to this. That is nothing at all like what we were talking about. Apple's Small Business service is more akin to a tech services consultancy that manages software and device deployment and security and has nothing to do with expedited on-site hardware repairs. It is more akin to something like a simplified Microsoft Entra device management with some mobile device management added.

The closest thing that Apple offers to Dell's ProSupport plans is AppleCare for Enterprise which has a minimum enrolment requirement of 200 devices.


Since we're talking about iMacs in this thread, sure. But many laptops still use hinge designs that can be quite easily replaced on-site with little more than a screwdriver. I find it hard to believe that a tech who carries around laptop motherboards and outer shells would not also carry around commonly-used displays.


The definition of "corp" customers being the key thing here. Dell will offer "corp" service to anyone who buy a business-level machine with a high-enough ProSupport plan. Including my 30 employee firm and OP's single-person (presumably) business.

I suspect you have a lot more personal experience with HP and Lenovo than you do with Dell. I have no experience with HP or Lenovo so I'll take your word for it.


I guess you also don't use a laptop, then?


Use what works best for you.
Not that, Apple small business program provides hardware support. In fact you can pick apple certified consultant if there isn’t a store near you for onsite support.
I know lot of business who lease from Apple and then can upgrade refresh very generously. Small business program is not the enterprise one you quoted. If you run a business, I don’t care what device I use, I am having a backup. I use my primary devices for 4-5 years upgrade and keep the old one as back up. I am not betting my business on apple dell or hp or who ever.
 
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If OP does get a different set up, would it be totally ethical to sell the new replacement iMac to an "unsuspecting" buyer?

The new iMac should be good for at least another five years anyway?
 
I agree with all you say. just had a quick look, and the M1 iMac hasn't been obsoleted yet, so Apple are supporting it. For me, Apple should be giving 'accurate timeframes', and clear messaging. It does call into question too, how long should you be able to have AppleCare on a product.
It used to be fairly simple, 1 year standard warranty, and you could extend to 3 years total with Apple Care. But Apple started to get greedy, and figured they would charge extra for extra coverage beyond the 3 year period.

Well if you're charging it, you better support the old machines and have parts to spare, or do the right thing and replace it with either new or refurbished unit.
 
I’ve had problems with an iPad Pro, and an M1 MBP.

We have powers in the UK. If the problem occurs twice in six years, we can request a replacement, or refund.

I don’t know if something similar applies in the US?
 
I’ve had problems with an iPad Pro, and an M1 MBP.

We have powers in the UK. If the problem occurs twice in six years, we can request a replacement, or refund.

I don’t know if something similar applies in the US?
Us has lemon laws. Apple usually has replaced if the same problem happens 3 times. Ofcourse it doesn’t apply to regular wear and tear, dust or water related issues.
 
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