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daRAT

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Price, thats what I would like to know. The iBooks and Tbooks are now very competitive, (take a look at Dell and Gateway notebooks & laptops..ewww).

Damn...I want a iBook!, and a Cinema Display, iPod...time to beg Santa ;]
 

job

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Why would they go back to slot-loading?

They had a lot of technical issues with those drives in the past; I can personally attest to that, as both slot-loading drives in my 2 iMacs ceased to function.
 

reyesmac

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Originally posted by hitman
Why would they go back to slot-loading?
The more expensive their computers look, the more they can charge. They kept the iBook and will continue to keep it with virtually the same specs since the white version came out, what did they have to do to stay competative? They had to reduce the price, because if they added features that all the competitions laptops had, they would have ended up with something better than a Powerbook at half the cost.
They don't want the same thing to happen to the iMac. They will add new things like screens and drives and keep the bus speed the same even though that would help boost speed more than a bumped up CPU. Personally, I think that the eMac would be given a price cut before the iMac does, if only to get more school sales.
 

job

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Originally posted by reyesmac
The more expensive their computers look, the more they can charge.
You mean to tell me that the change may be for purely asthetical, i.e. marketing reasons?

I don't think so...
 

scem0

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I think a slot loading drive would be great! I think it would look a lot better then the current trays. I think that anything lower then 1 GHz is unneceptable, because the Powermacs coming out this Jan are going to be at a lot higher speeds..... They better be. I hope apple keeps up this good streak demonstrated through the laptop updates. If apple keeps it up, then they are sure to gain market share, money, and everything else they ever wanted/needed.
 

arn

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Originally posted by hitman


You mean to tell me that the change may be for purely asthetical, i.e. marketing reasons?

I don't think so...
Why not? Why else did the previous iMac go to slot loading drives?

arn
 

arn

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Originally posted by Shrek
What's a slot loading drive?
where there is a slot on the side of the computer, where you stick a CD/DVD into.

as opposed to a tray-loading drive... where the tray comes out and you place the CD/DVD onto the tray.

arn
 

Mr. Anderson

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It seems like the logical way to go, although the slot loaded vs. tray loading might be an issue of money. What if Apple put pressure on to get the slot loading superdrive for the TiPB (which required effort on the part of the manufacturer) but they had to make a concession for it, namely, make slotloading across the board and in the LCD iMacs? Makes sense to me, and the more units they buy, the cheaper they'll be.

Anyway, I don't think it will detract from the iMac at all. They'll just have to change their ad and not have it stick its slot out at the guy on the other side of the window....;)

D
 

Mr. Anderson

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Originally posted by Shrek
Ah, man. That little "tounge" is so kewl. :p
But as it has recently been pointed out to me, what price is cool?

Would it be better to not have a slot loading super drive in the TiPB to keep the tray in the iMac? I don't think so, since the overall impact is minimal. I'm glad the superdrive made it to the TiPB (along with plenty of other people) and if it came at the price of putting them in the iMac, so be it.

D
 

Shrek

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Jul 23, 2002
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Hmmm. Why no news of a 19" iMac? And why not bump it to 1.25GHz instead of 1GHz? Just because of these two issues, I'm rating this thread at 3 stars--one star taken away for each fallacy. :p
 

ChicagoMac

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Nov 8, 2002
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Ok, so Spymac doesn't exactly say that there will be a 19" Imac, but it does say that "other details are still facing conflicting reports." So maybe there is hope. Also, did you look at the picture of the Imac with the arrows pointing out from the screen as though to suggest the screen getting larger? Maybe it's showing the change from 15" to 17"... but maybe not.:D Any other interpretations?

I would be just as happy with a price drop before Christmas!
 

arn

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Originally posted by ChicagoMac
Also, did you look at the picture of the Imac with the arrows pointing out from the screen as though to suggest the screen getting larger?
yeah - they used that pic when the 15" imac went to 17".

arn
 

neonzebra

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Nov 8, 2002
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video card?

Oh please oh please I hope they at least give us the option to get a GeForce4 Ti video card. Doom III is a big reason for me to upgrade! John Carmack has been quoted as saying "Do not buy a GeForce4-MX for Doom (3)".
 

michaelyoung

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...um.....spymac

not to be negative or anything..but i have friends who _guess_ better than Spymac "reports". New iMacs would be nice though. Maybe i can get one that matches my iWalk :)
 

QuiteSure

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Jun 20, 2002
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Originally posted by hitman
Why would they go back to slot-loading?
Kids tend to put more wear and tear on cd-rom trays. Slot loading is safer for the computer.
 

JW Pepper

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Jul 21, 2002
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Slot loading is a compleatly logical move. i for one fin that every time I open the CD tray it hits the keyboard. That it exactly the sort of thing that we are told SJ hates. I also think he has a great liking for neat things and a slot is a lot neater than a tray.

the iMac has a long way to go and they can keep eeking out upgrades for a long time. Further improvements include:-

Bigger screens.
Better video cards.
Faster/better processors.
DDR
Faster bus speed, 133,166 etc.
Bluetooth.

I don't expect any of these to reallr arrive at the same time, just a logical progression and it will have to go hand in hand with the Powermac's. If we see a bug jump in the PM's next year with G4+ or 970's it make it easier for Apple to incorporate these without affecting PM sales.
 

rugby

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Feb 21, 2002
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Unless they redesign the entire cd/dvd/cdrw drawer a slot=loading iMac won't work. The purpose of the tray drives is to open the external door of the iMac (also in the g4 towers). A slot loading drive won't open the door of the iMac.
 

Billicus

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Apr 3, 2002
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Originally posted by rugby
Unless they redesign the entire cd/dvd/cdrw drawer a slot=loading iMac won't work. The purpose of the tray drives is to open the external door of the iMac (also in the g4 towers). A slot loading drive won't open the door of the iMac.
You wouldn't need an external door if they went to slot loading drives across the board. Look, for example at the later incarnations of the G3 iMac.
 

Gelfin

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Sep 18, 2001
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The real problem is the complications posed by the curvature of the iMac's case, which forces the front of the drive to be set far back from the front of the case. You have to make sure the drive can grab discs early enough and push them out far enough on ejection. You've also got to be sure they will continue to do so reliably as the drive ages. It also most likely means the iMac would no longer be able to use mini-CDs and business-card-sized CDs.

In short, I'm skeptical that a slot loader on the iMac would be practical. And really I'm not sure the coolness of a slot loader is worth the engineering hassle. I'll believe this one when I see it.