I think what they should really bring back is the kind of CD drive where you have to put the CD in it's own little case which gets inserted into the drive. I think it would have great marketing appeal since it would take a few minutes each time to swap CDs. Our lives are all too fastpaced so this could be marketed as a way to slow down and enjoy life. They could do a tie in with something like Martha Stewart Living or a similar magazine.
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I agree with you. Back in January I asked one of the Apple reps on the MacWorld floor why Apple went to tray-loaders for the new iMac. His answer was that the tray mechanisms are less expensive and the drives become available as tray-loaders before they become available slot-loaders. Unless Apple has figured out how to solve both of these problems, I can't see them moving to slot-loaders for the iMac.
I'm still waiting for them to go 17" across the iMac line. The stocks of 15" iMacs are nearly gone. I wonder if these new units didn't get stuck on container ships during the longshore lockout, delaying their release. If the first few thousand of these new models have seagull poop on the boxes, we'll know.
a whiter shade of pale
From what I've seen the new ibooks are whiter than the old ones, so I would guess at a minor tweak in plastics for the imac as well. MOM
From what I've seen the new ibooks are whiter than the old ones, so I would guess at a minor tweak in plastics for the imac as well. MOM
For the imac to take off, Apple need to look at WHY so many PC's are in peoples homes. It isn't because they run Office at home, Macs do that too. People like to play games at home, and the PC has 2 huge advantages over the mac. First, direct X, Apple seem to think games coders have nothing better to do all day than carve games out of unix rock. Wrong Apple! Open GL is only a token help, give the games companies some motivation to work on your machines... Secondly, the PC world doesnt patronise its consumer market the way Apple does, with regard to uprgrades. PC owners have the luxury of putting whatever graphics board they like in their machine to extend its life. You can't underestimate how useful that is. How many mac owners would jump at the chance to put a 32 meg graphics board in their imacs to speed up Jaguar? But no, changing graphics cards is not for consumer scum, only 'pro' users are allowed to do this. This just makes me mad, and puts others off buying into Mac.
I believe it is useless to assign our personal needs and desires to everyone else. If "for instance" is any kind of a proof, I've got my own to proffer.
I've owned probably a dozen Macs over the last 17 years and over that time I haven't upgraded a single video card. In fact about a year ago I sold my 9600 and bought a Cube because after years of ownership, I found that huge, infinitely upgradable, noisy box to be completely wasted on me. The next machine to go will be a G3 tower -- to be replaced by an iMac. The G3 has never been upgraded, either. When it goes, our office will be totally free of roaring sucking sounds.
If Apple were, as you would have it, to make internal upgradability of all subsystems a strict priority, then they'd never be able to come up with innovative form factors like the Cube or the iMac. You've got to give if you want to get.
I've owned probably a dozen Macs over the last 17 years and over that time I haven't upgraded a single video card. In fact about a year ago I sold my 9600 and bought a Cube because after years of ownership, I found that huge, infinitely upgradable, noisy box to be completely wasted on me. The next machine to go will be a G3 tower -- to be replaced by an iMac. The G3 has never been upgraded, either. When it goes, our office will be totally free of roaring sucking sounds.
If Apple were, as you would have it, to make internal upgradability of all subsystems a strict priority, then they'd never be able to come up with innovative form factors like the Cube or the iMac. You've got to give if you want to get.
I'm in the market for a new mac and I would love to get an iMac with a cinema display. I plan to keep the new machine for a while so I don't want it to become limited to quickly. The things holding me back are:
1. Lack of 3d video hardware. For a computer targeted at the home user, games are important and 3d hardware support is essential. The use of neutered MX video keeps me holding off. If I can't upgrade it then I at least want something up to current standards when I buy it. Also AGP should be at 4x not 2x.
2. Crippling the performance of the CPU on purpose. If I pay for a G4 I expect to get that level of performance. Not a CPU that is slowed down by a slow bus just so that it doesn't hurt thier Pro sales. I don't need DDR since the G4 can't use it anyway...I just want a decent 133Mhz Bus so the CPU can run with decent bandwidth. They require 133 Mhz memory anyway..so lets get the benefit from it.
3. 1Ghz cpu minimum. Sure the 800Mhz CPU is adequate at the moment but again...if I keep the computer how good is 800Mhz going to be 2-3 years from now? How well will it run the next generation of OS X and applications? My bet is that it will be slow. Alot like the G3 500 I have now.
None of this is asking too much and I don't see that many mods would have to made to accomidate them.
So I guess if they make a 1Ghz+ iMac with 133Mhz bus, radeon 9000 or GF4 with 64mg and cinema display 17",18" or 19" then I'm gonna be placing my order!
1. Lack of 3d video hardware. For a computer targeted at the home user, games are important and 3d hardware support is essential. The use of neutered MX video keeps me holding off. If I can't upgrade it then I at least want something up to current standards when I buy it. Also AGP should be at 4x not 2x.
2. Crippling the performance of the CPU on purpose. If I pay for a G4 I expect to get that level of performance. Not a CPU that is slowed down by a slow bus just so that it doesn't hurt thier Pro sales. I don't need DDR since the G4 can't use it anyway...I just want a decent 133Mhz Bus so the CPU can run with decent bandwidth. They require 133 Mhz memory anyway..so lets get the benefit from it.
3. 1Ghz cpu minimum. Sure the 800Mhz CPU is adequate at the moment but again...if I keep the computer how good is 800Mhz going to be 2-3 years from now? How well will it run the next generation of OS X and applications? My bet is that it will be slow. Alot like the G3 500 I have now.
None of this is asking too much and I don't see that many mods would have to made to accomidate them.
So I guess if they make a 1Ghz+ iMac with 133Mhz bus, radeon 9000 or GF4 with 64mg and cinema display 17",18" or 19" then I'm gonna be placing my order!
spymac?
What are you ****in kidding?
Until the iWalk comes out, why pay attention to there children and their fantasies? The only reason they exist is because of that bull they made up about iWalk. I cannot believe anyone quotes a word they say.
What are you ****in kidding?
Until the iWalk comes out, why pay attention to there children and their fantasies? The only reason they exist is because of that bull they made up about iWalk. I cannot believe anyone quotes a word they say.
I also agree.
What ever happened to the "Build-to-Order" at the Apple Store. These days, the only things you can change seem to be the memory and hard drive.
Why can't Apple keep the same basic configurations, but offer the chance to upgrade their computers by the build-to-order scheme. That way the headline prices stay the same, but if someone wants to spend extra money on decent 4x AGP graphics, then they can pay the extra. Same goes for the Notebook lines.
One other thing about the tray vs slot loading drives. From what I know about the new Powerbook slot loading Superdrive, it's a crippled version of the PowerMac tray loader offering only 1x DVD-R instead of 2x on the tray loader. Interestingly if you only rarely burn DVD-R, but mainly burn CD-R/RW then the Combo drive is faster 16x10x CD-R/RW vs 8x4x in the Superdrive?
I was a bit surprised by that.
SpyMac?
Puh-lease. There are magic eightballs out there with a better track record.
And as for the upgradablity, I agree, more BTO options would be nice. But part of the Mac philosophy is that idea that the more you can muck around with things after the sale, the more things can go wrong, therefore, the design of the consumer Macs limits the amount a "non-pro" user can do.
Personally, for playing games, that's what the PlayStation is for.
Puh-lease. There are magic eightballs out there with a better track record.
And as for the upgradablity, I agree, more BTO options would be nice. But part of the Mac philosophy is that idea that the more you can muck around with things after the sale, the more things can go wrong, therefore, the design of the consumer Macs limits the amount a "non-pro" user can do.
Personally, for playing games, that's what the PlayStation is for.
Look again at the Digital Hub angle!!!
As I see it the LCD iMac IS apple in the public's eye right now. It is cute, different, very interesting even for the non-apple user. It is unique and it sells. Apple is pushing the "digital hub" and I feel we should look to the iMac to carry this "steve jobs dream" forward.
Those new powermac towers are great, but frankly many are purchased by power users and in my opinion they are "just another box" to the average computer user. We, of course, know how great they are. But my point is, to the non-mac user only the iMac has a WOW factor.
Look for Apple to wow us in January. My opinion...
19" iMac with BLUETOOTH - why? To interface with the two new bluetooth devices we have heard about. New PDA and improved iPod, perhaps iPhone?
Slot load - of course, if you are buying for the powerbook then you'll put them in everything to reduce costs. Processor - top at 1.25Ghz - low 867 Ghz.
So... 19" 1.25Ghz (slot load) and minor design changes? , 17" 1 Ghz (tray load), 17" 867 Ghz (tray load) AND bluetooth devices.
As I see it the LCD iMac IS apple in the public's eye right now. It is cute, different, very interesting even for the non-apple user. It is unique and it sells. Apple is pushing the "digital hub" and I feel we should look to the iMac to carry this "steve jobs dream" forward.
Those new powermac towers are great, but frankly many are purchased by power users and in my opinion they are "just another box" to the average computer user. We, of course, know how great they are. But my point is, to the non-mac user only the iMac has a WOW factor.
Look for Apple to wow us in January. My opinion...
19" iMac with BLUETOOTH - why? To interface with the two new bluetooth devices we have heard about. New PDA and improved iPod, perhaps iPhone?
Slot load - of course, if you are buying for the powerbook then you'll put them in everything to reduce costs. Processor - top at 1.25Ghz - low 867 Ghz.
So... 19" 1.25Ghz (slot load) and minor design changes? , 17" 1 Ghz (tray load), 17" 867 Ghz (tray load) AND bluetooth devices.
Low-end
- 15-inch LCD flat screen
- 867MHz PowerPC G4
- NVIDIA GeForce4 MX
- 256MB SDRAM
- CD-RW
- 40GB Ultra ATA hard drive
- Apple Pro Speakers
- $999
Middle of the Road
- 17-inch widescreen LCD flat
- 867MHz PowerPC G4
- NVIDIA GeForce4 MX
- 512MB SDRAM
- 80GB Ultra ATA hard drive
- Apple Pro Speakers
- $1499
High-End
- 17-inch widescreen LCD flat
- 1133MHz PowerPC G4
- Radeon 9500
- 512MB SDRAM
- 120GB Ultra ATA hard drive
- Apple Pro Speakers
- $1899
Dear god I wish these were the specs. of the next revision of the iMac. The iMac desperately needs an increased system bus, 1GHz+ G4s, a better price tag, and better graphics cards. I recommend the Radeon 9500 (not Pro), for it offers decent performance, significantly more than the Radeon 9000 and thus Geforce 4MX and 2MX.
The 15" iMac should stay for a while, offering a low-priced iMac for the masses. The Superdrive should be included into the other iMac setups to further push Apple's DVD-burning movement.
Finally, the iMac needs to price itself competitively to ensure that it can lure in customers as the economy recovers. Computer sales are up, and Apple needs to find itself attracting new customers, instead of giving them up to Dell or Compaq.
This is how the iMac Store Should Appear After MWSF
- 15-inch LCD flat screen
- 867MHz PowerPC G4
- NVIDIA GeForce4 MX
- 256MB SDRAM
- CD-RW
- 40GB Ultra ATA hard drive
- Apple Pro Speakers
- $999
Middle of the Road
- 17-inch widescreen LCD flat
- 867MHz PowerPC G4
- NVIDIA GeForce4 MX
- 512MB SDRAM
- 80GB Ultra ATA hard drive
- Apple Pro Speakers
- $1499
High-End
- 17-inch widescreen LCD flat
- 1133MHz PowerPC G4
- Radeon 9500
- 512MB SDRAM
- 120GB Ultra ATA hard drive
- Apple Pro Speakers
- $1899
Dear god I wish these were the specs. of the next revision of the iMac. The iMac desperately needs an increased system bus, 1GHz+ G4s, a better price tag, and better graphics cards. I recommend the Radeon 9500 (not Pro), for it offers decent performance, significantly more than the Radeon 9000 and thus Geforce 4MX and 2MX.
The 15" iMac should stay for a while, offering a low-priced iMac for the masses. The Superdrive should be included into the other iMac setups to further push Apple's DVD-burning movement.
Finally, the iMac needs to price itself competitively to ensure that it can lure in customers as the economy recovers. Computer sales are up, and Apple needs to find itself attracting new customers, instead of giving them up to Dell or Compaq.
This is how the iMac Store Should Appear After MWSF
Hate to tell you this, but what you have done here is really bad. I am amazed that Apple have not done something yet about this. I don't want to sound like a complete dork here but what you have done has broken the copywrite law in most countries. I suggest you pull it asap
I know it's illegal, but it's always fun to touch up other pages. I already took it down, anyhow.
It's not illegal
I didn't get to see the page, but it is not illegal to use another's trademarked or copyrighted materials as a commentary upon their practices. This is part of the "fair use" doctrine, indirectly protected by the First Amendment to the US Constitution. It would be illegal if you were selling a competitive product.
I didn't get to see the page, but it is not illegal to use another's trademarked or copyrighted materials as a commentary upon their practices. This is part of the "fair use" doctrine, indirectly protected by the First Amendment to the US Constitution. It would be illegal if you were selling a competitive product.
Of the several dozen people I know who use Windows at home, approximately two of them know that Office runs on Macintoshes. For most of the rest, at least, they do use Windows at home because they think that's the only way to run MS Word.
In fact, a substantial number of Windows users I talk to have a hard time distinguishing between MS Word, MS Windows, and the Internet. That's gotten worse lately, with MS Outlook using MS Word as an email editor.
There's still a dishearteningly prevalent view out there that Macintoshes are "incompatible" with everything else. Most casual PC users don't even come close to considering that it might be possible to do something they want to using a Mac. (I haven't done any real research on this, but I suspect Apple isn't showing any "Switch" commercials during Jerry Springer or Anna Nicole.)
We're slipping into the OT Zone, but I have to respond to this comment with a great AMEN, because it's such a common, and frustrating, issue. I'm sure we've all had this experience: You send a file to a Windows user. They can't open it for some reason, so they blame it on the Mac, and certainly not on operator error (theirs). If the same file had come from a PC, they'd probably try to solve the problem. But if they know the file originated from a Mac then (obviously), the Mac is at fault.
How about if we make the iMac base square?
Then it could have a slot load drive and a graphics card slot...
... just like the Cube!
(Oh, not another 'return of the cube' thread!)
Then it could have a slot load drive and a graphics card slot...
... just like the Cube!
(Oh, not another 'return of the cube' thread!)
Re: It's not illegal
What he did have on the page was illegal. Not to meation a couple of really bad logo breaches. Apple are really strick on their logos and they correct logo for the correct use. (Authorised Reseller, Service Provider) etc if you are not Authorised and say that you are that is bad.
What he did have on the page was illegal. Not to meation a couple of really bad logo breaches. Apple are really strick on their logos and they correct logo for the correct use. (Authorised Reseller, Service Provider) etc if you are not Authorised and say that you are that is bad.
Re: Re: It's not illegal
Once again, it is only illegal if he is actually selling something. If he is using the items for parody or for newsworthy commentary it is considered speech that is protected by the first amendment.
In other words, you can use Apple's logos to criticize Apple, but you can't use the same logos to confuse customers in order to compete unfairly with Apple.
Once again, it is only illegal if he is actually selling something. If he is using the items for parody or for newsworthy commentary it is considered speech that is protected by the first amendment.
In other words, you can use Apple's logos to criticize Apple, but you can't use the same logos to confuse customers in order to compete unfairly with Apple.
Oh, yeah, there will be iMac updates.. if there is an MWSF. They aren't really banning them are they? That would be complete idiocy. I mean, hello? Um, duh?