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I sincerely wish people would stop calling it the 4G iPhone. The "3G" in iPhone 3G (the second version of the iPhone, mind you) and iPhone 3GS referred to the 3G cell network. The new iPhone is not going to run on 4G networks. Perhaps "iPhone 4" is more accurate?

I think it will be called iPhone HD
 
I don't really like 4G, but people use 4G to infer 4th Generation- iteration.

Right, but it's misleading. And the cellular industry was using "3G" long before the iPhone debuted.

It's like when people say "iTouch." Something about it makes me sick. If that makes me a nerd or whatever, so be it. I'm in advertising. I like things simple and accurate. (Well, as accurate as they need to be.) ;)
 
I laugh at those who think people are changing their opinion. I haven't seen it. I still think it's a **** body.

I still don't trust Engadget. I'll laugh when the design is entirely changed and all you smug fools are wrong. And yes, still sick of these tabloids.

Please, for the sake of everyone else, learn how to take a picture that doesn't ruin the forum layout.

Then why do you read MacRumors? 99% of their posts are just links to Engadget, gizmodo, etc.

I'm not saying that's bad, I still read MacRumors and have so for 10 years. I love the site. That's just the business plan they use, it's obviously wildly successful.
 
My observations... ...
That should be "imperfect circle" not "unperfect circle." There is no such word as "unperfect."

Also the presence of a slightly less than perfect circle in a digital pic is indicative of nothing at all.

Also, the lack of a "hole" on the front for a camera means nothing since the front is glass.

The pics look slightly doctored to me, but a lot of your "analysis" is not worth much IMO.
 
Right, but it's misleading. And the cellular industry was using "3G" long before the iPhone debuted.

It's like when people say "iTouch." Something about it makes me sick. If that makes me a nerd or whatever, so be it. I'm in advertising. I like things simple and accurate. (Well, as accurate as they need to be.) ;)

How do you think I feel - I have an original iPhone. I too hate it.
 
Engadget is still showing their worthlessness. They briefly acknowledged it was a fake, then took it down. Now it is back to normal in order to get a few more clicks in. First a crap story, then they won't even print the truth. What a joke.
You are leaving out the distinct possibility that the writers at Engadget might be actual real humans who aren't infallible and don't have any of the agendas you are reading into the situation. You're also ignoring the possibility that the facts are still coming in and that people might be deciding hour to hour (or even minute to minute) what they think/believe about it all.

Given that your account requires a giant conspiracy that we have no overt indicators of, Occam's Razor favours you being wrong.
 
It just shows you how quickly Japan's culture is changing.

Its not the honour system it once was, or just that everybody likes money.
These are huge assumptions that are founded in nothing at all.

For starters, turn the clock back to the 1960's and Japan was famous the world over for cheap knock-offs of ideas from the west. So even further back in the past, the "honour culture" didn't interfere with this kind of thing happening at all.

Secondly, other than one anonymous Spanish guy on a forum somewhere who says it's so, there is no evidence at all that this is a picture of a "Japanese Clone."

Third, in China money is like a God. Far more so than in the USA even and that's saying something. Japan doesn't have a money worshiping culture like that. It never has (even when they were making the knock-offs in the 50's and 60's).
 
That should be "imperfect circle" not "unperfect circle." There is no such word as "unperfect."

Well sorry about that.

Also the presence of a slightly less than perfect circle in a digital pic is indicative of nothing at all.

If you were to compare this photos to other, you'll notice that this phone is slimmer than others. Therefore, this person shrunk the width of the top, making the circular headphone jack more like an oval and the sleep/wake button to be thinner.

Also, the lack of a "hole" on the front for a camera means nothing since the front is glass.

If the earpiece reflects the light hitting it, then the camera that is just beside it should too.
 
japanese manufacturers ...

cannot make counterfeit phones, there is no market for them.

Practically all phones sold in Japan are custom ordered by carriers, and carriers decide what the phones should be designed, and then carriers label them & distribute them.

This thing must have come from China...
 
The reader who posted these photos in Applesfera has confessed, they're all a fake and he just wanted to get his fakes published everywhere.

I am just speechless right now.
 
It looks too perfectly symmetrical though for a shot that was taking from an angle.
You're being ridiculous.

It's a reflection because the picture shows the glass *front* of the phone not the back. The square thing (like those in the other picture) is a reflection of fluorescent lighting, the round thing is a reflection of a simple table lamp (looking up the shade from beneath.)
 
You're being ridiculous.

It's a reflection because the picture shows the glass *front* of the phone not the back. The square thing (like those in the other picture) is a reflection of fluorescent lighting, the round thing is a reflection of a simple table lamp (looking up the shade from beneath.)

The reader who posted these photos in Applesfera has confessed, they're all a fake and he just wanted to get his fakes published everywhere.

I am just speechless right now.

Sorry. Looks like they are 'shopped. He was right. :)

(Although could you link that, please? )
 
You're being ridiculous.

It's a reflection because the picture shows the glass *front* of the phone not the back. The square thing (like those in the other picture) is a reflection of fluorescent lighting, the round thing is a reflection of a simple table lamp (looking up the shade from beneath.)

I disagree.
 
Which makes it sad because this design is horribly unappealing.

Not sure I agree.

The end of plastic, and a return to aluminum is a move in the right direction as far as I am concerned. I don't see plastic as particularly cool. The 1G iPhone is still a great looking device.

If the back is made of glass, this could feel remarkable in the hand.

The flat aluminum sides could also accomodate an optional rounded plastic/rubber bumper that could make the device look exactly like the current models.

Leaked images are very unsexy.
This device could look very nice if photographed properly.

C.
 
Sorry. Looks like they are 'shopped. He was right. :)

(Although could you link that, please? )

Do a google/babelfish translate on the origonal post that started this thread


We have pressed to our reader Iván Meneses (usuary “meneses_pro”) so that it sends more information to us on the photos of the prototype that it sent to us, requesting a video to him, and has ended up confessing to us that he is fake. We feel much all the confusion, but we have wanted to continue until the end to know finally if these photos were real or no.

considering how many people hated on hte quality of hte 'bar floor' pictures, but were willing to believe this god awful 'japanese' pictures, jebus
 

Do a google/babelfish translate on the origonal post that started this thread




considering how many people hated on hte quality of hte 'bar floor' pictures, but were willing to believe this god awful 'japanese' pictures, jebus

Thanks ^_^

I'm actually looking forward to seeing what Apple gives us. I'd be very happy if it looks like this...
 
It's a reflection because the picture shows the glass *front* of the phone not the back. The square thing (like those in the other picture) is a reflection of fluorescent lighting, the round thing is a reflection of a simple table lamp (looking up the shade from beneath.)

There is clearly a reflection of the overhead lights.
And this is the back of the device because the FCC blurb is visible. As is the camera.
But where you'd expect to see a logo...there's this shape.

It could be a desk lamp reflection. Although it's an odd shape.
If it's a logo. It's not an Apple.

It appears to be a logo of a Death Star!

C.
 
Why doesn't Apple just call it iPhone? The first one was just called iPhone (unofficially called iPhone 2G).
 
some of you guys seem to be confused. If any of you could read spanish, then you would know that it is clearly saying that the person who confessed his pictures were fake was the person who posted pics of the supposed "japanese clone". the bar room pics are very much real.

also, people seem to be confused by the composite picture as well. the bottom right picture does not depict the back of the phone, but the front. why would anyone think that they would put glass on both sides? the bar room pictures clearly show that the back is made of chrome just like the ipods.
 
also, people seem to be confused by the composite picture as well. the bottom right picture does not depict the back of the phone, but the front. why would anyone think that they would put glass on both sides? the bar room pictures clearly show that the back is made of chrome just like the ipods.

The bottom right picture of the composite picture does show the back of the phone. And I do not see a chrome back in any of those pictures.
 
How often do these 'leaked' shots turn out to be real?

The day before an announcement? Maybe.

2-3 months away? No chance.

iPhone 4G (and it is the 4G until Apple tell us what they call it) is real, but you are not going to see it on a blog until T-1 day. Fact.
 
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