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While they look like great machines, I'm going keep on rocking my Late 2013 13" rMBP. I love that it has:
  • HDMI
  • standard USB ports
  • traditional keyboard
Still, looks like a great upgrade for those who need a new computer or want it!
 
How can you type fast and accurately on the MB keyboard?

I, for one, type blindly....it's really hard with the MB keyboard because the keys are so thin, you don't know where they start and end, and them not having any key travel doesn't help, either

Works for me. A huge improvement.
 
I beg to differ: I can live with the butterfly mechanism. But thinner…? Ugh.

The mechanism is not the problem, it's the atrociously small amount of key travel that makes the rMB keyboard so terrible.


You don't.

That's what I'm saying. The Magic Keyboard had improved stability, but still retained the travel. I thought for sure they'd use it in the MBP.
 
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App locks up, won't release control of toolbar. Need to force quit. Just select command+option+...wtf, where is esc?

esc is used A LOT. Not have a physical key for that?!? Courageous!

I would have sacrificed tilde for esc, or at least made it half size...or something...gotta have esc!
 
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Works for me. A huge improvement.

It's obviously not working for a LOT of people.

Also, if it's so great, why didn't they use it for the Magic Keyboard? Also I recall reading somewhere that the keyboard in the MB was a compromise...well, they really should compromising in a PRO machine at some point...
 
Umm no, had a rMB for over a month and tried to get used to the keyboard when keying in charts. Gave it to my wife for a facebook machine after my month trial was over. I guess the hipsters are cool with it, but I grew up on Alps keyswitch IBM/Apple keyboards and the current rMB's keyboard is atrocious. No way I'm getting the new rMBP 15 if it has the exact same keyboard as the rMB. Looking forward to firesale 2015 rMBP 15 prices...

Time to get used to change buddy. It's 2016. You can do it.
 
You’re making working assumptions based off a static picture? It reminds me of the iPhone release forums – “no way, you mean I have to scroll with my finger all the way down to ZZ Top from ABBA?”

Your eyes were on the screen with the iPhone ... your analogy is off.

My comment was simple - I rarely look down at my keyboard except to position my hands at the very start. How and why would a touchbar help if I have to take my eyes off the screen where the content is?
 
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Do you complain when given a Christmas present that it wasn't what you wanted?

With one teeny-tiny difference: I don't have to pay for christmas presents. However, if I spend a LOT of money on something and have to make many compromises, have to make because of lack of alternatives?....how would you feel? For comparison is flawed.
 
The bezels seem a bit reduced as well.

My disappointment is that there is a bezel at all. I was really hoping that Apple would make a machine more like the Dell XPS (but keep the camera at the top of the screen instead of the bottom of the screen).
 
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