Images of New MacBook Pro With Magic Toolbar Leaked in macOS Sierra 10.12.1

[loon3y]

I am an "I.T Professional" who looks after 3 data centres and about 80,000 users. With virtualization and most stuff running off remote servers, I can do most of my work on anything with an internet browser.

A MacBook Pro is simply a more premium offering over the MacBook and MacBook Air and is aimed at anyone who wants to buy it. As I've stated many times, the 'Pro' term means nothing.

You have stated that different users have different uses, and yet you mention about your niche situation. Was throwing out 80,000 users somewhat supposed to make it feel that theres no use?

I work for a small ERP company, I have to run multiple virtual machines on my computer and compile for Xcode, Visual basics, PowerBuilder, and host multiple SQL databases for testing with our many version of the software for our older clients. Not to mention some have customized their source code from our main.


Compiling, all this takes time. Hosting multiple virtual machines take a lot of power. I would love to have everything streamlined so I can just do everything remotely on a MacBook but it just isn't the case at the time.

Anyone in our profession would merely look at the tech specs than rely on the term professional, but I'd say it is correct. Yes, most users probably don't use it for work or as a professional, but it does differentiate greatly for guys like us in tech.

the processing power and ram matters greatly to me, I never thought i'd use all of my 16GB of ram but i have running virtual machines.

I wouldn't be able to do any of these things on a MBA or MB. Not to mention our servers, (one of them is a Mac Pro) if we used an iMac for such purposed it would again be underpowered.

I believe there is just a meaning behind professional besides the marketing term. I mean in no way shape or form is me Having a MacBook even reasonable for me.

 

[LordVic]

So far so good.

Still have my list of "DealBreakers" as I'm in the market for a new laptop

1. Removal of the headphone jack.
Sorry, I use it a lot on every device. I'm not going to go over and over again why removing the headphone jack is user hostile and makes nose sense.

2. Using the shallow scissor keyboard from the MacBook
Tried it. Hate it. as a touch typist who grew up on mechanical keyboards, the Shallow, no resistance, scissor keyboards are painful and ****** keyboards. A "Pro" laptop that is going to already be 10-20mm thicker than the "macbook" doesn't need this keyboard!

3. Quad Core
It's called a "pro" for a reason. I want a little bit of power. If I wanted the standard ULV 2 core chips, I could have just bought a new Air by now (although that screen is disgusting)

I thought at first I'd be against the USB-C move. But if they include 4 ports, at least I won't need a "Squid" adapter just to attach mulitple devices, or charge while using a device.

And almost all my external devices are attached with USB cable, either USB-A to USB-Micro or Mini. This means all I have to do is replace a couple cables with USB-C to MINI or MICRO and viola. everything is now USB-C

I for see my biggest frustration is with USB-A based Memory sticks though, which are about 99.999999999% of whats out there.

It would be nice if they still included a single USB-A port. But it is Apple.

 

[haganah]

[doublepost=1477484463][/doublepost]"Ports are not visible, but based on past part leaks, we're expecting four USB-C ports and a headphone jack, with the HDMI port, MagSafe port, and SD card slot being eliminated."

Sigh. Honestly, I think I've bought my last Mac. I rely on HDMI, SD Card slot and I am not going to spend more $$$ to buy adapters. Apple, please stop removing everything!!! So frustrating.
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Yeah and you still have the HDMI port, MagSafe port, and SD card slot. Stupid Apple keeps removing things I rely on. What to buy next?

When I go into meetings and need to present, 9 times out of 10 I am presented with AirPlay as default. Very rarely am I asked to plug into HDMI. When I'm at my desk, my monitor plugs into a port along with whatever else I have so that when I leave, I disconnect one single cable, not 10. In that case the HDMI cable for the monitor goes into the USB-C port.

And honestly, I don't think most people use SD cards on a daily basis. I can see how that would be annoying if you were a pro-photog. I know a couple of those folks even buy laptops for big trips to download photos while in the field and then sell the laptop when done with it. But most folks don't do photography on a daily basis. The real question that I think is important is what will Nokia / Canon do if people shift away from memory cards. Or maybe they'll just expect those folks to have an adaptor.

Honestly, the adaptor/port for my MacBook isn't so bad. I factored it into the total price when I got the laptop and it's made life at my desk a lot easier. What I'd love is for everything to be on USB-C so that when I travel anywhere I never have to worry about not having a cable or charger...and this is what many people would want.

 

[ilian92]

I for see my biggest frustration is with USB-A based Memory sticks though, which are about 99.999999999% of whats out there.

It would be nice if they still included a single USB-A port. But it is Apple.

There will be plenty of USB-C memory sticks coming out in the next years.

 

[0958400]

Wow. It looks so good. And the 13" model has the speakers at either side.

This model is ideal for the music affinicado: just place your head over the keyboard and enjoy stereo sound.

 

[Mailia]

There will be plenty of USB-C memory sticks coming out in the next years.

USB-C drives will not torch all the USB-A drives everyone already has everywhere.

 

[thetechguyse]

If this image was actually found in 10.12.1, post the path to the file...

 

[snorkelman]

A toolbar that adapts to whatever app you're currently on (possibly allowing custom shortcuts) and provides an extra layer of security through the use of fingerprint recognition is a waste of time?

had it been in addition to function keys I could see the point but when its at the expense of constant direct access to system wide controls then its potentially as much a hindrance as a benefit.

 

[Mailia]

If this image was actually found in 10.12.1, post the path to the file...

I imagine the image is embedded in some resource file for the System Preferences. That or some help file. In any case, I imagine that you need to actually extract the image out of another container file before you can see it, even if you have the path.

 

[Brookzy]

If this image was actually found in 10.12.1, post the path to the file...

/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/PassKitUI.framework/Versions/A/Resources

 

[jkim13]

For me, not having the physical function keys are a deal breaker. I spend all day working in Excel working on financial models and data. When I travel about once a week or work from home, I use my Macbook Pro (Windows version in Parallel). I need physical keys there because I use esc, F2, F4 as often as I press tab or enter, if not more often. Trying to press it on a screen that often without looking will most likely slow my workflow and be prone to more errors

 

[macduke]

This is a very interesting observation, could be something to it especially for those worried about the esc key.

I hope you're right

I just realized I should just edit the current MacBook keyboard to see what it looks like. It's pretty much an exact match, aside from the TouchBar. So yeah, not gonna happen, I was mistaken. Comparing to the old keyboard was the wrong thing to compare it against. Oh well! Must be the shape of the keys on that super thin keyboard.

I'm not looking forward to that being on the Pro. I'm probably going to buy an iMac next instead. If they ever reduce the travel of the keys on the desktop keyboard, I'm going to lose my mind, lol. I guess they technically did that already with the "chiclet" keyboard, but there's no reason to shave off another mm or two.

 

[LordVic]

USB-C drives will not torch all the USB-A drives everyone already has everywhere.

Oh, I know it will. I'm all ready for our USB-C overlords.

But there is going to be transition period where you have a lot of USB-A devices.

For example at work: I can guarantee you that most of the financial institutions I work with currently don't have USB-C ports on their servers and are not likely to go out and replace server farms to add USB-C. When a client needs to send me a database, often they put it on USB memory stick and ship it (a lot faster, and more secure than over the internet for 100GB databases)

this sort of transition is going to last years, and will be a bit of a pain in the ass for a while.

 

[cerberusss]

but it's not progress to replace all ports with usb-c and require adapters.

Everyone's talking about adapter this, adapter that. Why not buy a few new cables? No adapter will be necessary anywhere.

 

[JPRain]

I work for a small ERP company, I have to run multiple virtual machines on my computer and compile for Xcode, Visual basics, PowerBuilder, and host multiple SQL databases for testing with our many version of the software for our older clients. Not to mention some have customized their source code from our main.

Wait... You're HOSTING multiple SQL databases on a MacBook Pro?? It's MacBook Pro not MacBook Server.

 

[cerberusss]

Who goes through the thousands of images and text lines in each OS release to see if there is anything they can find?

It's very easy to do... You keep a machine with only clean installs. Then in Terminal, you type something like

$ find . / > allfiles-macos-X.Y.Z.txt

This basically lists ALL files on the harddrive and saves them in a text file. You do this every time an upgrade comes out. Then you can see the new files that appeared with each release.

 

[Accipiter]

Good lord some of you people are complete tools.

"They've gotten rid of the ESC key! MY VIM!"
- They've done no such thing. Every function key will still be present. It just happens that the physical keys have been replaced with software keys that can change function based on context, and visually change to adapt to what the function represents. The computer will most likely display the standard function key row by default, functionally and visually changing depending on either a keypress ("Fn") or the context of an on-screen application (Apple Pay). You ARE NOT LOSING YOUR ESC KEY.

"I AM TOO losing my ESC KEY! And my function keys! Soft keyboards aren't as reliable as hardware keys!"
- That's a bunch of crap. True "hardware keyboards" ceased to exist once everything went to USB. Every single modern keyboard has a dedicated processor with in-built software logic that takes physical input, translates that input into the appropriate HID-compatible data, and sends it to the computer over USB. Hitting "ESC" on a standard USB keyboard is identical to hitting ESC on a software/OLED keyboard; the absolute only difference is the physical input method.

"Applications will have to be reprogrammed to support the new ESC key!"
- NO. You freaking people and the ESC key. Like I said, the signals sent by the keyboard to the computer when ESC is pressed are identical whether you're using a USB keyboard or a software keyboard. Nothing will need to be rewritten to support the OLED key input.

"They've replaced ESC with a 'Cancel' button!"
- No they haven't. That's a contextual display for an Apple Pay purchase. It reverts to ESC once Apple Pay isn't prompting the user for input. You will also most likely be able to override contextual changes to the OLED bar by a press of the "Fn" key.

"There's no power button!"
- The Touch ID button is separate from the OLED bar and doubles as the power button.

"The power button needs to be a physical button!"
- Seriously, are you kidding me? Computers haven't had a "physical" power button since ATX was invented. Every power button since then has been a "virtual" button that sends a signal to the motherboard, which in turn tells the power supply to start firing on all cylinders. You know how you can turn on your television by pressing a button on your remote control and not pressing a physical button on the TV? Same thing. And that's how computers have worked for like the past 20 years.

"We won't have function keys outside of Mac OS!"
- Ugh. Yes you will. Contextual and functional changes to the OLED keys may or may not be available in Windows or Linux, but in cases where those features are not available, the OLED bar will fall back to the default function key row. The keyboard does not rely on Mac OS to know how to send those keypress signals. Those are built into the keyboard's logic. The only thing the OLED keyboard will need from Mac OS is data on the incoming channel that customizes the OLED screen - and if that functionality isn't made available by Apple outside of Mac OS, it'll definitely be reverse engineered rather quickly.

"Touch ID in a computer will make it easy for my fingerprint to be stolen!"
- Dead wrong. No iteration of Touch ID has ever stored fingerprint data! Touch ID maps your fingerprint into a "hash" of sorts, and this hash is one-way; it cannot be "unpacked" into your original fingerprint. While it will be interesting to see how Apple protects the Secure Enclave that will be embedded in the keyboard, stolen fingerprints are a non-issue.

"Someone at Apple is getting fired for this leak!"
- No. 10.12.1 specifically includes support for the new MacBooks, and everyone at Apple knows that support as well as these art assets are included with this version. This was not an accident. The risk is mitigated because A) anyone who knows enough to look for these images already knows about the OLED bar because of the long-existing leaks, and B) we're only two days from the official announcement anyway so the impact to people who aren't already clued in is going to be minimal.

 

[Mailia]

Wait... You're HOSTING multiple SQL databases on a MacBook Pro?? It's MacBook Pro not MacBook Server.

Why wouldn't you host development SQL databases on a development machine?

 

[ilian92]

Oh, I know it will. I'm all ready for our USB-C overlords.

But there is going to be transition period where you have a lot of USB-A devices.

For example at work: I can guarantee you that most of the financial institutions I work with currently don't have USB-C ports on their servers and are not likely to go out and replace server farms to add USB-C. When a client needs to send me a database, often they put it on USB memory stick and ship it (a lot faster, and more secure than over the internet for 100GB databases)

this sort of transition is going to last years, and will be a bit of a pain in the ass for a while.

You would need an adapter either side for a while for sure, but USB-A has to go away eventually, right? We still need to burn the odd CD now and then (have an external drive to pass around when needed), but 99% of the time we don't need it at all anymore. This kind of change is good.

 

[Dead0k]

It's still there. Just not when ApplePay is processing a payment. It's contextual.

Button has gone. Virtual button is there.
I wonder if windows 10 via bootcamp is ready for this bar?

 

[b656]

Well, guess we know what the MacBook Pro looks like. Looks the same.

Party's over folks!

yeah... I thought it would take stylus (ApplePencil) input like Dells or Lenovos or SurfacePros

 

[mistasopz]

No Kaby Lake, gimmicky OLED bar, butterfly keyboard, and the removal of important tactile buttons for programming (fn, ESC). Looks like I'm moving to the surface pro.

 

[JPRain]

Why wouldn't you host development SQL databases on a development machine?

If the dev box is a laptop without a 5 pound power supply? That's not a use case Apple ever intended. Dell didn't intend it for XPS line, Lenovo wouldn't recommend you do that on a Yoga... etc. I mean it might work, but you can't really complain if it doesn't.

ANY mobile chip would be underpowered and you probably can't run the RAM you would need and have a decent battery life.

 

[Accipiter]

If the dev box is a laptop without a 5 pound power supply? That's not a use case Apple ever intended. Dell didn't intend it for XPS line, Lenovo wouldn't recommend you do that on a Yoga... etc. I mean it might work, but you can't really complain if it doesn't.

ANY mobile chip would be underpowered and you probably can't run the RAM you would need and have a decent battery life.

You have no idea what you're talking about. SQL is not a power-hungry application unless you're indexing millions of rows with hundreds upon hundreds of users sending queries every minute.

You can easily keep ginormous SQL databases on your machine and leave the SQL server running constantly with absolutely no impact to performance, as long as the number of users accessing that data at any one time is severely limited. Which, in the case of a development machine, amounts to a handful of users, if not (more likely) only a single user.

 

[family_guy]

That keyboard looks Macbook-ish, and that's not a good thing.