Images of New MacBook Pro With Magic Toolbar Leaked in macOS Sierra 10.12.1

[Steve121178]

Apple wanted to differentiate their computer lines, the MacBook for students and some home users, and the MacBook Pro for those that wanted a more powerful option

It still doesn't mean anything though. A student can use any Mac of PC he/she wants to. A feeble low voltage CPU based Mac will be of little use to an engineering student for example who wants to run 3D models etc. The whole Pro moniker is a nonsense.

 

[Roller]

Nope, never has been. 'Pro' or 'Professional' user is just a made up term and means nothing. Everyone is a 'user' with their own specific needs.

Can anyone define what a 'Pro' user even is? Some people believe it means someone who requires a powerful machine to do their work or it may refer to content creators. Ultimately, it really means nothing and it's embarrassing that people still use this nonsense term.

There are some lunatics out there who still think the MacBook Pro and Mac Pro are machines designed specifically for the 'Pro' users out there. I don't know what these people are on, but I'd like to try some of what they are having.

I agree. I use a MB Air exclusively for my work. Does that make me a "professional" user? And are my needs any more significant than those of someone who uses the same computer to edit videos of their family?

As for the OLED bar, I'm willing to see how it's implemented, and having fingerprint ID on the keyboard is compelling. I'll be much more interested to see what Apple does with ports, though. I have a lot of USB devices that aren't compatible with USB-C, and the thought of carrying yet another adapter (or two) isn't appealing.

 

[Dydegu]

... you know that how exactly?

The MB doesn't have any more room. They gave them just enough travel to make them usable. Also I'm sure they've heard the countless complaints about the keyboard. The MBP is thicker, so they have some more room to work with.

 

[Fuchal]

I love my Retina Macbook for being so thin and light. It's exactly what I need in an ultraportable.

But the compromises on keyboard comfort and lack of Magsafe that I tolerate on an ultraportable just don't make sense on a full-size machine...

I feat this is going to be one (small) step forward, two steps back.

Have you used the magic keyboard? The keys are flat like the Macbook, but the feel is totally different. I prefer it to every other Apple keyboard I've used. I agree with you on the retina Macbook keyboard, too. Hopefully the MBP keyboard is more like the Magic Keyboard than the Macbook.

 

[Donoban]

There will be a way that the Courage Bar has a default mode set in Firmware/ROM that has the ESC, F keys and Power button displayed and effective by default unless told otherwise by software.

Courage bar. Loooolz, what a great name for it. Along with ththe 4 courage USB ports.

 

[loon3y]

Nope, never has been. 'Pro' or 'Professional' user is just a made up term and means nothing. Everyone is a 'user' with their own specific needs.

Can anyone define what a 'Pro' user even is? Some people believe it means someone who requires a powerful machine to do their work or it may refer to content creators. Ultimately, it really means nothing and it's embarrassing that people still use this nonsense term.

There are some lunatics out there who still think the MacBook Pro and Mac Pro are machines designed specifically for the 'Pro' users out there. I don't know what these people are on, but I'd like to try some of what they are having.

So Professional is a made up term? So in your mind there is no such thing a professional? What about using The MacBook Pro as a professional IT/Developer?

Theres a clear difference of power from a MacBook Pro and a MacBook. A MacBook, MacBook Air, would not be able to handle what I do for work.

All the RAM and Processing power is needed, so yes i beg to differ. So it is made for professional, Any other portable mac doesn't cut it.


LOL I don't know WHAT YOU'RE on brother. I can just as easily say lunatics is a made up term, hey term is a made up term. Tin Foil hat much?

 

[MrGimper]

I got my current Mid 13" rMBP on the refurb site at the end of 2014. I'm interested in this new MacBook Pro, but won't be jumping on board straight away. I'll likely wait for refurbs as this machine with 16GB RAM and 1TB flash serves me fine.

 

[maflynn]

I got my current Mid 13" rMBP on the refurb site at the end of 2014. I'm interested in this new MacBook Pro, but won't be jumping on board straight away. I'll likely wait for refurbs as this machine with 16GB RAM and 1TB flash serves me fine.

Unless there's a feature on the new MBP that you must have, the 2014 MBP is no slouch, its a very nice machine, so yeah you have time on your hands to decide

 

[MrGimper]

Unless there's a feature on the new MBP that you must have, the 2014 MBP is no slouch, its a very nice machine, so yeah you have time on your hands to decide

Indeed. I think the only thing I really want is better GFX performance in the 13" footprint.

 

[Steve121178]

So Professional is a made up term? So in your mind there is no such thing a professional? What about using The MacBook Pro as a professional IT/Developer?

Theres a clear difference of power from a MacBook Pro and a MacBook. A MacBook, MacBook Air, would not be able to handle what I do for work.

All the RAM and Processing power is needed, so yes i beg to differ. So it is made for professional, Any other portable mac doesn't cut it.


LOL I don't know WHAT YOU'RE on brother. I can just as easily say lunatics is a made up term, hey term is a made up term. Tin Foil hat much?

I am an "I.T Professional" who looks after 3 data centres and about 80,000 users. With virtualization and most stuff running off remote servers, I can do most of my work on anything with an internet browser.

A MacBook Pro is simply a more premium offering over the MacBook and MacBook Air and is aimed at anyone who wants to buy it. As I've stated many times, the 'Pro' term means nothing.

 

[lcseds]

Explain yourself. Justify your position. Don't waste people's time in the forum with pointless negativity.

Don't take criticism well do you? Imagine all the palm prints on it for starters. It would get so buggered up you'd have to clean it before each use. It is NOT a good idea. That one idea would send me to Lenovo in an instant.

 

[robertosh]

Another useless thing.

 

[Workerbee Redux]

Having 4 USB ports would be great, except 1 will be occupied by your charger, and 1 by something that was built into previous computers (SD card slot, an adapter for HDMI or Thunderbolt or VGA, etc)

Displays will act as chargers, so you only need one port for both external display and charging. We also don't know if there's an SD card slot on the 15".

 

[cmChimera]

Give what to you... an overly thin, thermally crippled laptop, with a bad keyboard, limited ports, and zero upgradeability options?

So when you say 'give it to me' you kind of mean ... 'rape me'?

This escalated quickly.

 

[lowkey]

So Professional is a made up term? So in your mind there is no such thing a professional? What about using The MacBook Pro as a professional IT/Developer?

Theres a clear difference of power from a MacBook Pro and a MacBook. A MacBook, MacBook Air, would not be able to handle what I do for work.

All the RAM and Processing power is needed, so yes i beg to differ. So it is made for professional, Any other portable mac doesn't cut it.


LOL I don't know WHAT YOU'RE on brother. I can just as easily say lunatics is a made up term, hey term is a made up term. Tin Foil hat much?

Pro is a marketing term when applied to a laptop. There is no such thing as a professional laptop.
Different professionals have different needs.
A professional writer would get by with a MacBook. I know several architects using MacBook Airs.
I'm a professional architect. I use a MacBook at work. My hobby is composing music. Im an amateur, but for that I need a MacBook Pro as a quad core i7 runs more VST and Audio Units.

 

[Appleaker]

I think the removal of HDMI and the SD card slot, together with the switch to USB-C only will make this machine very annoying to use until every device in the world transitions to USB-C, including projectors, TVs, peripherals, etc... That's going to take years. Until then, don't forget your:

• USB-C SD card reader that you probably don't have yet
• USB-C to HDMI or VGA adapter for when you need to use a projector for a presentation or a TV for video editing
• USB-C to regular USB adapter for, let's face it, everything
• USB-C to Thunderbolt adapter for if you use an external monitor

Personally I really hate adapters, and I hate paying money for them and having to bring them everywhere I go because who knows when I'll need them. Nothing's more comfortable than plugging in my Mac directly to my HDMI TV for video editing, or putting an SD card slot in it when downloading photos during a shoot. I've never had to use an adapter with my current rMBP. I remember when the only video port on the older machines was the Mini DisplayPort which was and still is incompatible with everything, so I always had to have the adapter with me.

Having 4 USB ports would be great, except 1 will be occupied by your charger, and 1 by something that was built into previous computers (SD card slot, an adapter for HDMI or Thunderbolt or VGA, etc) so you'll just end up with pretty much 1-2 free USB ports, which is as good as or worse than what we have now.

At least 2 of those USB C ports will be Thunderbolt 3 ports, and I have sources that tell me there are 5 (I could be wrong).

 

[Abazigal]

So Professional is a made up term? So in your mind there is no such thing a professional? What about using The MacBook Pro as a professional IT/Developer?

Theres a clear difference of power from a MacBook Pro and a MacBook. A MacBook, MacBook Air, would not be able to handle what I do for work.

All the RAM and Processing power is needed, so yes i beg to differ. So it is made for professional, Any other portable mac doesn't cut it.


LOL I don't know WHAT YOU'RE on brother. I can just as easily say lunatics is a made up term, hey term is a made up term. Tin Foil hat much?

It's more that I find the term "professional" to be rather meaningless.

I am an elementary school teacher and I get way more mileage out of my iPad Pro and Apple Pencil than any Apple laptop. I don't wrestle with arbitrary definitions of whether my job is considered "professional" or not. I just get the right device which best suits my needs, and use it. In fact, I don't really care whether people view me as a professional or not.

What about your job makes it more "professional" than mine, or even "professional" to begin with? Is my job any less "professional" just because I don't need triple monitor setups and oodles of ram and processing power?

It just sounds so arrogant and elitist, IMO.

 

[Dave245]

I wonder what the price will be for the 2016 MacBook Pro? will it cost more than the current laptops? i'm guessing yes because of the technology, Touch ID and that OLED Touch Bar.

 

[iMcLovin]

I guess Im one of the few that doesnt become very excited by this bar ....it seems more like a gimmick than something really useful.. THe media buttons we always had, are rarely used in my case, except the music play and audio buttons. Loosing the F1-12 buttons is more negative than gaining the media bar. If you would get both, sure its cool, but a lot of programs rely on the F buttons, especially in windows... and if you are working in one of those, the media bar replacement wont really be an awesome replacement. I guess nobody in Apple HQ use these F buttons, since they didnt bother to add an extra row for those.

 

[BitsnPieces]

Am I the only one bothered by the lack of an SD card slot? So now when traveling I have to carry and extra adapter to upload pics from my DSLR? That sucks. I love Apple, but the whole trend of eliminating features still widely in use really irritates me!

(Still trying to find a decent app to replace the "digital picture frame" feature originally built into iPads. Would it have killed them to leave it there?)

I would hate to trade the SD card slot for that gimmick of a "magic" bar. But I've read there is supposed to be a an SD card slot, 4USB C's and a mag save type adaptor for the USB charging (apparently those exists as 3rd party products already)...

 

[Workerbee Redux]

The most interesting thing about the touch strip will be if there's going to be an API for it and how far that will expose it's capabilities to userland software. It could well be that it is relatively shielded (to protect the security enclave) and applications are only allowed to upload a new set of icons and receive key events. On the other side of the spectrum, it could allow programs to upload their own code or control its visuals directly with something like Metal.

In the latter case, it would open the door to a lot of neat applications of this. From IM notifications to calendar alarms to hilarious 8-Bit games to music visualizers. Background software could use it to post notifications via the Notification Center. Siri could put its atrocious wiggly lines there, Google Now could tell you your flight has been rescheduled.

We'll see.

 

[Dave245]

It's more that I find the term "professional" to be rather meaningless.

I am an elementary school teacher and I get way more mileage out of my iPad Pro and Apple Pencil than any Apple laptop. I don't wrestle with arbitrary definitions of whether my job is considered "professional" or not. I just get the right device which best suits my needs, and use it. In fact, I don't really care whether people view me as a professional or not.

What about your job makes it more "professional" than mine, or even "professional" to begin with? Is my job any less "professional" just because I don't need triple monitor setups and oodles of ram and processing power?

It just sounds so arrogant and elitist, IMO.

It's probably a meaning for people who use a lot of memory and storage for things like video editing, especially on programs like Final Cut Pro X and Adobe Photoshop After Effects and so on.
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I would hate to trade the SD card slot for that gimmick of a "magic" bar. But I've read there is supposed to be a an SD card slot, 4USB C's and a mag save type adaptor for the USB charging (apparently those exists as 3rd party products already)...

I'm sorry but you don't know if it's going to be "that gimmick" of a magic tool bar, Apple haven't announced the new laptops yet.

 

[BitsnPieces]

I must say it looks pretty good

That toolbar looks like one of those genius features everybody will copy and nobody will remember how it was before. Like Touch ID and much of the current MacBooks...

I was hoping the toolbar OLED to be transparent and then render black keys on the surface. I'm surprised Apple actually did executed this like the initial renderings we saw a few month ago. I would have expected Ive's team to go that one step further with this ... sad they did not.

 

[Ploki]

Cool.

- @ just noticed the butterfly keyboard. Good luck pro-folks with not being able to type normally.

... I really don't like it when people who have a chronic aversion to change call themselves "pro" by default.

 

[hellomant]

Pro is a marketing term when applied to a laptop. There is no such thing as a professional laptop.
Different professionals have different needs.
A professional writer would get by with a MacBook. I know several architects using MacBook Airs.
I'm a professional architect. I use a MacBook at work. My hobby is composing music. Im an amateur, but for that I need a MacBook Pro as a quad core i7 runs more VST and Audio Units.

What if, just what if, the word "professional" is refering to the use of professional softwares..? You might be an audio ameteur but the softwares are not... Wouldn't you agree that professional softwares can usually benefit from more powerful hardware? And since these softwares are designed for real professionals in mind, wouldn't calling it a pro machine be adequate?
And then you see Sony call their machine Ps4 Pro....