Images of New MacBook Pro With Magic Toolbar Leaked in macOS Sierra 10.12.1

OMG, I didn't even think about that till now.

welp, I'm out :(

Funny that a major portion of the old school enterprise tech sector was just starting to do major adoptions in macs due to it being closer to unix style that's used in the cloud and they drop this. Escape functionality better be smooth as hell with haptic feedback or this is a deal breaker.
 
Funny that a major portion of the old school enterprise tech sector was just starting to do major adoptions in macs due to it being closer to unix style that's used in the cloud and they drop this. Escape functionality better be smooth as hell with haptic feedback or this is a deal breaker.

You can remap, say, Caps Lock too but muscle memory really is a killer.
 
You can remap, say, Caps Lock too but muscle memory really is a killer.
A serious question out of curiosity: why is muscle memory the huge issue I have been reading about here today?
I use shortcuts all the time too (After Effects etc for over 10 years) so I understand muscle memory, but... the shortcuts change from version to version and it takes me a couple of days to learn them and use them without thinking about them.
Why would it be difficult for all you developers - many of whom I expect are a lot younger than I - to remap and adjust your muscle memory?
Thanks, T.
 
A serious question out of curiosity: why is muscle memory the huge issue I have been reading about here today?
I use shortcuts all the time too (After Effects etc for over 10 years) so I understand muscle memory, but... the shortcuts change from version to version and it takes me a couple of days to learn them and use them without thinking about them.
Why would it be difficult for all you developers - many of whom I expect are a lot younger than I - to remap and adjust your muscle memory?
Thanks, T.

For me it's been the sheer length of time and frequency I've used that. It's unconscious at this point - I'm just thinking about editing, not about keystrokes. Probably one of the reasons I have trouble with it on the iPad is I rarely use vi on it but use it all the time on mac so I never really unlearn/relearn. It'd probably be easier to get I'm the Ctrl + [ habit if I had to use it everywhere.
 
You are in a different universe, dude.
And you're communicating with me, now that's impressive? Believe it or not, Apple doesn't see itself as the reliable supplier of completely backward compatible Macs for the sake of uninterrupted workflows. They see themselves as innovators. And they've learned one thing about innovation. If you want to introduce something new, you've got to get rid of the old.
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The desktop PC was never able to finish the transition from color-coded PS/2 ports to more versatile USB ports, because motherboard manufacturers feared the loss of a customer and keyboard makers used the old plugs as long as there were dedicated ports for them on the motherboards. If nobody wants to break compatibility, everybody keeps stuck in the past forever. And customers don't benefit either, instead of a short transition period with usb-to-ps2 adapters, they got a never ending relationship with ps2-to-usb adapters included with every Logitech mice they bought. And it still won't work when you mix purple with turquoise.

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Sometimes you've got to decide (or rather let Apple decide), if you want to be compatible with the past or with the future. Instead of complaining about too many useless USB-C ports and no useful USB-A ports, we should all be glad that Apple has the courage™ to let such atrocities die. It's always the same story, Function keys are no different. And if you don't feel like living in the future, go back to Windows!
 
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And you're communicating with me, now that's impressive? Believe it or not, Apple doesn't see itself as the reliable supplier of completely backward compatible Macs for the sake of uninterrupted workflows. They see themselves as innovators. And they've learned one thing about innovation. If you want to introduce something new, you've got to get rid of the old.
ps2portU9EGB.png
The desktop PC was never able to finish the transition from color-coded PS/2 ports to more versatile USB ports, because motherboard manufacturers feared the loss of a customer and keyboard makers used the old plugs as long as there were dedicated ports for them on the motherboards. If nobody wants to break compatibility, everybody keeps stuck in the past forever. And customers don't benefit either, instead of a short transition period with usb-to-ps2 adapters, they got a never ending relationship with ps2-to-usb adapters included with every Logitech mice they bought. And it still won't work when you mix purple with turquoise.

usbps2ZBV8H.png
ps2usbTL8CO.png

Sometimes you've got to decide (or rather let Apple decide), if you want to be compatible with the past or with the future. Instead of complaining about too many useless USB-C ports and no useful USB-A ports, you should be glad that Apple has the courage™ to let such old atrocities die. And if you don't feel like living in the future, go back to Windows!

Linux works just as well for my purposes. Apple should worry about alienating too much of the development crowd, I've converted quite a few people over to macs just by showing them how much easier it is to use terminal vs. Putty/Cygwin.
 
Linux works just as well for my purposes. Apple should worry about alienating too much of the development crowd, I've converted quite a few people over to Macs just by showing them how much easier it is to use Terminal vs. Putty/Cygwin.
One of the great innovations at Apple was not to let developers decide how computers should work. Steve Jobs wasn't a bright programmer, he was someone who understood the importance of human-computer interaction. You didn't convert people to the Mac, macOS did it by working the way Apple intended. Don't be surprised, if your crowd doesn't follow you back to Linux and keeps following the Apple way now they've discovered it. Alienating their own user base is pretty much the modus operandi at Apple. They've always done it and ended up in a position from where to collect all the profits in the PC market. I don't think Apple has reason to worry.

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And you're communicating with me, now that's impressive? Believe it or not, Apple doesn't see itself as the reliable supplier of completely backward compatible Macs for the sake of uninterrupted workflows. They see themselves as innovators. And they've learned one thing about innovation. If you want to introduce something new, you've got to get rid of the old.
ps2portU9EGB.png
The desktop PC was never able to finish the transition from color-coded PS/2 ports to more versatile USB ports, because motherboard manufacturers feared the loss of a customer and keyboard makers used the old plugs as long as there were dedicated ports for them on the motherboards. If nobody wants to break compatibility, everybody keeps stuck in the past forever. And customers don't benefit either, instead of a short transition period with usb-to-ps2 adapters, they got a never ending relationship with ps2-to-usb adapters included with every Logitech mice they bought. And it still won't work when you mix purple with turquoise.

usbps2ZBV8H.png
ps2usbTL8CO.png

Sometimes you've got to decide (or rather let Apple decide), if you want to be compatible with the past or with the future. Instead of complaining about too many useless USB-C ports and no useful USB-A ports, you should all be glad that Apple has the courage™ to let such atrocities die. It's always the same story, Function keys are no different. And if you don't feel like living in the future, go back to Windows!
HAHA Oh my God! I remember those adapters!!! Good point mate :)
 
Looks good to me.
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That's a clever idea. If it does support swiping, I'm curious if we get some sort of volume slider.
I expect it. Brightness too. Multiple shortcut rows, fully customizable in System Settings. What would be really interesting is if they give it True Tone with an option to toggle on and off. I really love this feature on my iPad Pro and I'm all about consistency.
 
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And you're communicating with me, now that's impressive? Believe it or not, Apple doesn't see itself as the reliable supplier of completely backward compatible Macs for the sake of uninterrupted workflows. They see themselves as innovators. And they've learned one thing about innovation. If you want to introduce something new, you've got to get rid of the old.
ps2portU9EGB.png
The desktop PC was never able to finish the transition from color-coded PS/2 ports to more versatile USB ports, because motherboard manufacturers feared the loss of a customer and keyboard makers used the old plugs as long as there were dedicated ports for them on the motherboards. If nobody wants to break compatibility, everybody keeps stuck in the past forever. And customers don't benefit either, instead of a short transition period with usb-to-ps2 adapters, they got a never ending relationship with ps2-to-usb adapters included with every Logitech mice they bought. And it still won't work when you mix purple with turquoise.

usbps2ZBV8H.png
ps2usbTL8CO.png

Sometimes you've got to decide (or rather let Apple decide), if you want to be compatible with the past or with the future. Instead of complaining about too many useless USB-C ports and no useful USB-A ports, you should all be glad that Apple has the courage™ to let such atrocities die. It's always the same story, Function keys are no different. And if you don't feel like living in the future, go back to Windows!
What does that have to do with the fact that people don't everything the way you do?
 
As much as I wanted apple to keep the old style keyboard, I must say I am pretty excited about the new design.
 
As much as I wanted apple to keep the old style keyboard, I must say I am pretty excited about the new design.
The keys have to be flat so they're flush with the OLED strip. It would be awkward if they rose above it. I'm sure this is just the first step toward a haptic keyboard. I can live with it. I absolutely HATED the Smart Keyboard on the 9.7" iPad Pro when trying it out at the Apple Store...but I've since bought one and now that I've become acclimated to it, it is - hands down - my favorite typing experience on any Apple device I've ever owned. Sometimes I open up a new note and start typing randomly, just because it's so much fun to drum on the keys!
 
Anyone else wondering what's new with the hinge design ? It's doesn't span the whole width now by the looks of things
 
One of the great innovations at Apple was not to let developers decide how computers should work. Steve Jobs wasn't a bright programmer, he was someone who understood the importance of human-computer interaction. You didn't convert people to the Mac, macOS did it by working the way Apple intended. Don't be surprised, if your crowd doesn't follow you back to Linux and keeps following the Apple way now they've discovered it. Alienating their own user base is pretty much the modus operandi at Apple. They've always done it and ended up in a position from where to collect all the profits in the PC market. I don't think Apple has reason to worry.

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We will see how it works in real life, I'm skeptical about whether Tim Cook is able to keep innovation up in Apple.
 
What does that have to do with the fact that people don't everything the way you do?
We all live by the same laws of nature, whether we embrace them or ignore them. I could of course, declare gravity to be – just your opinion – but then I would fall flat on my face. Gravity is there for everybody, if one believes in it or not. All what we can possibly do is limited by natures boundaries. Some of these hard limits come in form of incompatibilities along the path of innovation. They can't be avoided and must be dealt with or else other problems will occur. This whole PS/2 port saga is a perfect example of an industry creating a mess by cowardly™ trying to avoid telling their customers – our great new stuff won't work with your old stuff.
 
We all live by the same laws of nature, whether we embrace them or ignore them. I could of course, declare gravity to be – just your opinion – but then I would fall flat on my face. Gravity is there for everybody, if one believes in it or not. All what we can possibly do is limited by natures boundaries. Some of these hard limits come in form of incompatibilities along the path of innovation. They can't be avoided and must be dealt with or else other problems will occur. This whole PS/2 port saga is a perfect example of an industry creating a mess by cowardly™ trying to avoid telling their customers – our great new stuff won't work with your old stuff.
You can keep being as philosophical as you want, it doesn't change the fact that you're wrong.
 
Please tell me they wont have 2010 "MacBook Pro" text displayed on the computer.

Also please can someone explain what the issue with magsafe is. The terminals appear to need cleaning but why is apple so keen on droping it?

Because it's an extra port taking up space that Apple feels doesn't need to be there if they can accomplish charging via a multi-purpose USB C port.
 
That hinge makes zero sense from a design point of view. It's not clean, it's not Apple. Something is up with that hinge. Could it be something like the Surface Book, maybe pulling the screen off turns it into an ipad? The way it looks doesn't make any sense to me, it's not clean. (TBH, going the surface book route also doesn't seem very Apple to me. I'm just thrown by the look of it.)
 
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since the Apple event is today, does anybody have an idea on how they usually go about ordering the product. Is it after the event or is there a pre-order date?
 
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