Images Reveal Google's Gmail Redesign Coming to Web Browsers on Mac and PC

[Markoth]

What about Linux?

/s

Linux is a kernel, not an operating system. Sorry, pet peeve of mine. I had to get that out. I'm good now.

 

[4jasontv]

Linux is a kernel, not an operating system. Sorry, pet peeve of mine. I had to get that out. I'm good now.

I applaud your investment in the debate and appreciate you more for it, but fair argument is made to say "tis both". Example: Debian is a distribution of the Linux OS powered by the Linux kernel. GNU plus the Linux kernel is the OS called "Linux" so says Linus.

 

[8281]

Design-wise, is iCloud really out of date? It's pretty analogous to the way Mail, Calendar, Notes and Photos all work on iOS and Mac. I will agree that the Gmail interface is generally a lot more flexible and powerful than iCloud Mail. I happen to think iCloud Mail looks slick, but it doesn't do much.

Function-wise, iCloud.com seems like it's doing a pretty good job of letting you get at your iOS and Mac iCloud apps from any browser. Edits to Notes and Calendars show up pretty much instantly from your phone. The Photos functionality is surprisingly good. I don't use the website a whole lot because I'm on my own Mac -- but back when I had a day job sitting in front of a PC, I'd have been psyched to be able to get to that stuff without digging into my phone.

I totally agree with you on iMessage, though. Maybe that will come with the whole "iMessage in the cloud" thing that was supposed to be in iOS 11 and didn't make it in yet. We can dream, anyway.

Perhaps the design isn’t the problem, rather it just doesn’t function as well as Google. To view a PDF in an email it actually downloads the PDF. And it opens email replies in another window. Considering the resources Apple has and their ostensible commitment to perfection, it’s just odd that Apple ignores their web apps. Arguably, Apple is losing the education market because of their poor web apps and their expensive hardware.

 

[jdsingle]

Gmail would be great if it weren't for the invasion of privacy.

I would like to see Apple focus on making Mail an even better email application, and tie any such work in with the iCloud Mail app so they're both improved.

I'm in agreement here. Finally made the switch from Google as my primary search engine. Next is the email platform. Must stay strong.

 

[smirking]

Same design, just a new coat of paint. They rounded off some corners. Nothing more.

It still sucks. Worst UI ever.

 

[ignatius345]

Perhaps the design isn’t the problem, rather it just doesn’t function as well as Google. To view a PDF in an email it actually downloads the PDF. And it opens email replies in another window. Considering the resources Apple has and their ostensible commitment to perfection, it’s just odd that Apple ignores their web apps. Arguably, Apple is losing the education market because of their poor web apps and their expensive hardware.

I'm with you. I find it adequate for occasional access, and the features there are are nicely designed, but the deep-level functionality just aren't there, which is a shamw.

I don't think it's so much Apple ignoring the web apps so much as treating them as a second-tier priority. Their big mission is still getting people onto native Mac and iOS apps, after all...

 

[Markoth]

I applaud your investment in the debate and appreciate you more for it, but fair argument is made to say "tis both". Example: Debian is a distribution of the Linux OS powered by the Linux kernel. GNU plus the Linux kernel is the OS called "Linux" so says Linus.

There is no Linux OS, and Linus can say whatever he wants (and he generally does). His kernel is called Linux. The operating system family is called GNU/Linux. The actual operating systems are called Debian, RHEL, CentOS, Fedora, OpenSUSE, Slackware among others.

This misunderstanding leads to confusion when people interact with oddballs such as Debian/kFreeBSD which combines most of the normal Debian bits with the FreeBSD kernel. Debian/kFreeBSD is not a Linux distribution, yet it is almost identical in functionality to regular Debian, because it is still Debian. It still has all the GNU utilities, X11, Gnome, etc. Almost nothing changes from the user's perspective, and yet, it is not Linux. Those who understand that Linux is merely the core of the operating system, aren't surprised. Most other people, including a large percentage of the tech industry, are. It's an important distinction, in my opinion.