Immersive audio..

Discussion in 'Apple TV and Home Theater' started by thomasfxlt58, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. thomasfxlt58 macrumors regular

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    Dolby Atmos & DTSX are missing from the audio formats. Hope that's an error or something they can remedy.
     
  2. jlasoon macrumors 6502a

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    Doesn't look like it.
     
  3. thomasfxlt58 thread starter macrumors regular

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    An unfortunate omission. TVOS could be a great daily driver but leaving that off a 4k HDR Dolby Vision box makes little sense
     
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  5. 007p macrumors 6502a

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    Well that just saved me buying 2 :)
     
  6. andrewstirling macrumors 6502

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    Yeah I'm steering clear as well. The launch was embarrassing as they launched 4k as if it was the next big thing. No HD audio support and no mention of supporting 24fps.
     
  7. thomasfxlt58 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Including DV, HDR10 and whipping the studios down to $20 was welcome. Totally failing on audio formats is confusing.
     
  8. MadCar macrumors member

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    Why the hell would you release a brand new Video streaming box with No HD audio at all.

    Not Atmos
    Not DTS X

    But hey its got 4K HDR, so it looks great but sounds rubbish, way to go Apple you have done well. NOT.

    I mean really what are they playing at.
     
  9. ahoydecoy macrumors regular

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    I'm really disappointed by the lack of HD audio. I've just installed a 5.1.4 atmos set-up and assumed this would be included with the next gen Apple TV.

    Is support for DTS:X and Atmos something that can be done in an update, or would it require entirely new hardware?
     
  10. 007p macrumors 6502a

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    The only thing I can think of is that its a streaming box and correct me if I'm wrong, but iTunes downloads (and maybe netflix / amazon?) don't use HD Audio. I expect because it would increase the file size for them....

    Nonetheless, I am a bit disappointed, I was going to purchase at least one thinking these would have had HD audio by now, but no.

    I guess thats next years ATV 5/6?
     
  11. mac.cali macrumors 65816

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    Simple. The next model after 4K will have it. Sell more Apple tvs.
     
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  13. ahoydecoy macrumors regular

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    It's a shame if that's the logic, because if you're catering to people that want to stream 4k HDR, you should probably rely on them having the capability to stream HD audio too.
     
  14. andrewstirling macrumors 6502

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    Yeah...can't wait to see them on stage next year talking up the advantages of this incredibly immersive lossless sound. Like it's not been around for the past 10 years.
     
  15. thomasfxlt58 thread starter macrumors regular

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    They showed off HDR like they'd just invented it.
     
  16. purpleparrotuk macrumors 6502a

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    I sold the last model Apple TV because the bitstream audio was rubbish low volume and no oomph. The new model has the same crappy audio. Who's idea was that?
     
  17. MadCar macrumors member

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    I can only suspect that they have left sound to such a bad priority that they aren't considering films, its more to display videos from an iPhone captured at 4K.

    Odd considering that they are looking to go into TV / Movie production and copy Netflix and Amazon.

    Such a shame it has so much potential as a one stop shop, for streaming or local playback.
     
  18. ahoydecoy macrumors regular

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    Like a couple of years ago when they acted like they'd invented the smart TV...

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    I'd been using my TV for nothing but apps for years before this.
     
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    It supports 7.1, just not in DTS. ATV4K supports DDP 7.1
     

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  21. iFan83 macrumors regular

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    Atmos and DTS X are the most over rated and over hyped thing in HT, 5.1 or 7.1 is just as good imo
     
  22. thomasfxlt58 thread starter macrumors regular

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    I had that opinion of HDR until they started doing it right.
     
  23. cardsdoc macrumors 6502

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    Many with a good HT setup that have made the transition with Atmos properly set up would strongly disagree with that statement. It's implementation in movies does vary and can range from very subtle (just adding some height presence) to adding true overhead sounds and precise movement of objects around you. Some of the material on the Atmos demos discs are quite impressive demonstrating what the format can really do. I grew up close to a major airport with large jets flying overhead all the time. One of the Atmos demos is an audio clip of a 747 flying overhead, front to back. It is incredibly realistic and can't be done in a traditional 5.1 or 7.1 setup. When movies do a good job and really take advantage of the format it is clearly more immersive.
     
  24. iFan83 macrumors regular

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    My HT is no slouch and my AVR even supports Atmos, I agree its nice but I do feel its way overrated. My HT is running with Ascend Acoustic Sierras using their RAAL ribbon tweeters all around me, Rythmik 15' subs and Anthem MRX, Ive heard Atmos in high end sets up, as well at the movies and its great but I just don't feel its worth all the speaker placement for my/others living room. HT is a hobby of mine and love a nice HT setup and fully appreciate Atmos but many in the HT world talk it up as something more than it is, imo a very nice and properly tuned up 5.1/5.2/7.1/7.2 setup can hold its own to Atmos.
     

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