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iMovie to Receive Update and Move Online?
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How about they give me iMovie 06 back since 08 is complete garbage
They did. You download iMovie 06 for free if you have iLife 08.
But Just like iWork I can see apple make a web companion for iMovie but iMovie will not be fully web based.
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This is actually a pretty good idea. Instead of trying to get the masses to change over to a Mac as fast as possible, let them gradually switch or not at all but still make money by offering software that works either way. It would also be nice to be able to access movies more easily from an iPod Touch of iPhone.
This is actually a pretty good idea. Instead of trying to get the masses to change over to a Mac as fast as possible, let them gradually switch or not at all but still make money by offering software that works either way. It would also be nice to be able to access movies more easily from an iPod Touch of iPhone.
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This thread is yet another example of induced mass hysteria. The rumor does not imply that Apple will be abandoning the Mac-based version of iMovie or any other application. These rumors do add up to something potentially big, like a Grande iPod touch with advanced support for applications via the net. If this happens, everybody will be falling all over themselves to tell us how cool it is. So why the massive freak out now?
That's what I was thinking too. There could be something very neat brewing.
Hmm, I don't know, this rumor is kind of hard to believe. Like others have pointed out, bandwidth issues make this not such a great idea.
I can see integration of iMovie with a web server to let you upload your edited movies and view them anywhere on your iPhone though. That would be very nice.
I can see integration of iMovie with a web server to let you upload your edited movies and view them anywhere on your iPhone though. That would be very nice.
I think something like that is what's behind both the iWork and the iMovie rumors. Nothing to be worried about, just added functionality "on the road".
Welcome To Apple's Blue Ocean...
No not really.
What are you doing with 28 GB of home movie footage? Sounds like you should be using an iMac and Final Cut Express...
I mean, it's all about "upselling". You want Firewire on that notebook or Mini, go get a MacBook Pro or iMac.
You want to do some serious Word Processing or Spreadsheet? Get Microsoft Office (installed locally on your hard drive).
For the most part, iMovie users are those who just use their digital camera or phone for video, and want to upload it for YouTube...
Geesh people...
(/sarcasm)
Have fun uploading 28 GB of home movie footage to MobileMe servers. See you in 2011 when the upload has finished.
Rumor is fake.
Unless we go back from HD to thumbnail-sized 5 fps movies. Yeah right
No not really.
What are you doing with 28 GB of home movie footage? Sounds like you should be using an iMac and Final Cut Express...
I mean, it's all about "upselling". You want Firewire on that notebook or Mini, go get a MacBook Pro or iMac.
You want to do some serious Word Processing or Spreadsheet? Get Microsoft Office (installed locally on your hard drive).
For the most part, iMovie users are those who just use their digital camera or phone for video, and want to upload it for YouTube...
Geesh people...
(/sarcasm)
I hope iMovie gets updated. I doubt it will be web-based only. I wonder if iDVD will get chopped anytime soon. They can put that on the cloud since I don't use it.
Agreed, it is not as intuitive or powerful as Premier elements. but Adobe did not release the new version or Premier elements for the mac as they feel imovie has a dominance,and the new version looks an aweful lot like the version in iLife 08.
so what I did:
1. Since i have parallels, installed my older premeir elements.
2. Downloaded iMovie 06 HD
3. Bought "Slick imovie plugins Filmmaker Kit" - gives me awesome transitions.
now I am quickly learing Final Cut Express.
my problem and why I need all these video apps? all my basic footage is in the formats of:
AVI, WMV, MOV, SWF, FLV, Mp3, WAV, AIF, ogg, Mp4, MPG, Mpeg-2, VOB, etc. Basically I can use any footage and then render it into a video.
I see online versions as a good thing. Moving them completely online is very troubling. First, what if your network goes down as it sometimes does? Not only will you not be able to get anything done, you risk the chance of losing everything you were working on. Second, have they ever gotten the mobile me technology this is based on to actually work right? If true, this seems like one of those trademark Apple situations where they implement an idea that sounds really cool in theory without thinking through the practical considerations first. Moves like this are what keep redmond in the game.
While there are several advantages to cloud computing embracing it so strongly as to move processor and storage intensive applications to a server would ignore the numerous advantages that desktop computing possesses.
I don't think Apple is this stupid or myopic, particularly when bandwidth speed may vary regardless of desktop processing power. Imagine an eight core Mac Pro underperforming a Macbook. Certainly, the iApps could benefit with better MobileMe integration. Perhaps in some cases shared computing resources across the internet might speed up certain processing tasks.
I suspect this report isn't exactly what Apple has in mind but I suppose we'll have to wait and see what Apple has up it's sleeve.
I don't think Apple is this stupid or myopic, particularly when bandwidth speed may vary regardless of desktop processing power. Imagine an eight core Mac Pro underperforming a Macbook. Certainly, the iApps could benefit with better MobileMe integration. Perhaps in some cases shared computing resources across the internet might speed up certain processing tasks.
I suspect this report isn't exactly what Apple has in mind but I suppose we'll have to wait and see what Apple has up it's sleeve.
As someone who does editing for a living I like the idea. Not that I'd be doing work on it, or that I do any work on any version of imovie, but I could see what the target of something like this would be.
With online movie sharing only getting more popular, it would make sense to make it more simple to do it through an application available to mac or pc through the browser. Something easily accessible that is simple to put your videos together, and the final "render" could just be sending your final movie to youtube, it would connect to your account and upload your finished video.
All your footage would be local on your computer, the only uploading would be the final h264 video when you finish your project.
I could see how it would make a lot more sense for people with little to no knowledge about editing for things to work this way.
With online movie sharing only getting more popular, it would make sense to make it more simple to do it through an application available to mac or pc through the browser. Something easily accessible that is simple to put your videos together, and the final "render" could just be sending your final movie to youtube, it would connect to your account and upload your finished video.
All your footage would be local on your computer, the only uploading would be the final h264 video when you finish your project.
I could see how it would make a lot more sense for people with little to no knowledge about editing for things to work this way.
I agree. Online/cloud video editing makes no sense at the moment.
Maybe one day when all of us have 100/100 mbit net access.
Well, if you take the "Cloud" concept to it's maximum extent, what would you end up with ultimately?
Maybe a touch screen tablet-type computer, 3 mm thick ( we're talking Apple after all).
You'd type on the screen, so no keyboard or mouse. And of course no ports of any kind, since Apple hates external ports on a computer.
Wireless internet connection. No hard drive. All storage, software, etc. is in the "Cloud".
Is this what Apple is aiming for in the long term?
They'd have you by the bollocks like on the iPhone; you'd be charged for pretty much about anything you do with your computer.
Maybe a touch screen tablet-type computer, 3 mm thick ( we're talking Apple after all).
You'd type on the screen, so no keyboard or mouse. And of course no ports of any kind, since Apple hates external ports on a computer.
Wireless internet connection. No hard drive. All storage, software, etc. is in the "Cloud".
Is this what Apple is aiming for in the long term?
They'd have you by the bollocks like on the iPhone; you'd be charged for pretty much about anything you do with your computer.
This is what I am thinking they are probably trying to make a cloud version of ilife for the iphone and ipod touch because it would take up too much app space.
Edit: Oh they all ready have online video editors just google
I agree. If Apple decides to do all of this, it would take forever to upload to a server that would probably be real slow. These servers would have to be a very high capacity to hold videos and iWork files. Also, it would be way too expensive. You might have to pay $200 a year or more to get 100GB of online storage.
I think Mobile Me is enough for a while. Apple just needs to work on Snow Leopard and Macs right now.
It is all about the iPhone
What if this is to accommodate video capabilities (finally) on the iPhone? Low resolution, low frame rate video that you can toss up in the cloud? From there, you could sent to whomever, post on your MAC site, etc. That would let them put a video capture thin client on the phone. Same could be true for iWork.
This will not change working on your BIG machine where a full client version let's you go to town on a big ol file.
iPhone (2G, 3G, nano) - think client
Macbook, iMac - thin client or full client
MAC Pro - hmmmm
Makes sense to this old man who is completely stuck in the era of client software (**recalling his first Z80 DYI computer with 8" floppy**).
What if this is to accommodate video capabilities (finally) on the iPhone? Low resolution, low frame rate video that you can toss up in the cloud? From there, you could sent to whomever, post on your MAC site, etc. That would let them put a video capture thin client on the phone. Same could be true for iWork.
This will not change working on your BIG machine where a full client version let's you go to town on a big ol file.
iPhone (2G, 3G, nano) - think client
Macbook, iMac - thin client or full client
MAC Pro - hmmmm
Makes sense to this old man who is completely stuck in the era of client software (**recalling his first Z80 DYI computer with 8" floppy**).
this doesn't make sense. I don't want everything in the cloud... I like my stuff on my imac just fine.
How about they give me iMovie 06 back since 08 is complete garbage
You can have iMovie 06 right now.
Apple never actually took it away from you if you upgraded it was left on your HD.
It is also supposed to be available as a free download to 08 users.
This is total nonsense. If you think about this in any rational way there is simply no way this is even possible on the current broadband technology. We'd be looking at upstream speeds in the hundreds of megabits per second in order to upload DV content to the server.
I'm sure iMovie will get more online features such as an easier way to publish movies to a Mobile Me account as well as much greater hosting capacity but there will not be an online version of it any time soon.
This is so ridiculous that it shouldn't even be on the MacRumors site let alone moved to page 2.
I'm sure iMovie will get more online features such as an easier way to publish movies to a Mobile Me account as well as much greater hosting capacity but there will not be an online version of it any time soon.
This is so ridiculous that it shouldn't even be on the MacRumors site let alone moved to page 2.
Couldn't agree more. Apple's web services are one of the weakest things they do. It's never really worked well at all. I left Dot Mac years ago because of this. I haven't seen anything to really change my mind. Not everybody wants to put all their raw video in the cloud just to then edit it.
I would hope there will always be a local component to the iLife apps. Just think about it, you've got the day off. You can finally getting around to editing all that video from Xmas morning, fire up the Mac, go to launch your "cloud" version of iMovie - boom - but guess what, your ISP is having issues and you can connect to the net. There goes your day.
I certainly won't be relying on an Apple "cloud suite" of iLife apps.
No not really.
What are you doing with 28 GB of home movie footage? Sounds like you should be using an iMac and Final Cut Express...
Just over 2hrs of DV1 footage. Barely a holidays worth.
There is a reason the Mac gained so much popularity after the move to Intel. I can assure you that I didn't move to the Mac until the move to Intel although I liked the idea of a Mac, for the very reason of assurance. If Apple screws up the Mac platform, I will simply move to the Windows platform and keep my hardware investments in Macs (I have four Intel Macs at the moment and I'm contemplating buying the new Mac Mini when it shows up, which would make number 5). In a way this possibility of moving to another OS platform reassures me of the option to move, and should keep Apple sharp.
I like Macs, but I won't accept being forced to subscribe to a service, especially not to a weak service like MobileMe. Microsoft may have made many mistakes, but Exchange Server 2007 is NOT a mistake: Apple would be wise to study Exchange Server 2007 and try to learn something from this platform.
I hope Apple doesn't make the mistake Microsoft made, by including an ActiveX like engine in Safari, making some (Apple) webapplications proprietary and to be used exclusively with Safari. I don't expect that Apple will make such a mistake, but if Apple does I would be very disappointed and would take that mistake into consideration, if I were to give advice to others and/or would need to decide about new ICT devices.
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This is one of those times when I really, really want to say this will never happen, but I know I'll just have to eat my words later, so I'm going to keep mymouth shut on this one... (too late)
This is one of those times when I really, really want to say this will never happen, but I know I'll just have to eat my words later, so I'm going to keep mymouth shut on this one... (too late)