If this is the case, then there's no point. You wouldn't be able to play/edit video projects on any machine other than the one that holds the actual media, unless you upload the individual clips (meaning GBs of video, and hours of time). So yeah, you can stick the editor in the cloud, but what's the point if you can't see the video-in-progress on another computer? So why bother having iMovie in the cloud then, when it offers no advantages to editing locally?
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If this is the case, then there's no point. You wouldn't be able to play/edit video projects on any machine other than the one that holds the actual media, unless you upload the individual clips (meaning GBs of video, and hours of time). So yeah, you can stick the editor in the cloud, but what's the point if you can't see the video-in-progress on another computer? So why bother having iMovie in the cloud then, when it offers no advantages to editing locally?
Why would you take it that way, since that's not what it said? Even if you can argue that this was implied (which I don't think it was), at some point, logic needs to be applied when dealing with rumors, don't you think?
I'm getting a worser and worser feeling that this "cloud" nonsense isn't going away this time. Too bad it's catching on too late to save Sun.
Like it or not, this makes sense from a marketing standpoint. Apple has been trying to differentiate their consumer and Pro products (complain about lack of firewire on the budget Macbook all you want -- Apple wants you to but a Macbook Pro if you want to do serious video editing).
This would be a differentiation from a software standpoint. If you want to do serious video editing, get Final Cut Studio. Otherwise, the average user should be fine making DVD-quality videos on the web (we're only talking 5-10 GB, and connections like FIOS are becoming much more commonplace). It could tie right into their gallery offerings on Mobile Me.
This would be a differentiation from a software standpoint. If you want to do serious video editing, get Final Cut Studio. Otherwise, the average user should be fine making DVD-quality videos on the web (we're only talking 5-10 GB, and connections like FIOS are becoming much more commonplace). It could tie right into their gallery offerings on Mobile Me.
Does the new HTML 5 spec allow for local script caching?
Honestly I've not kept up with web tech so I'm asking if anybody knows if the new HTML spec supports local storage of code. I know I heard something about client side storage so the thought is that Javascript could go in there. That might not help when disconnected, but code nearly managed and stored in a database would make many web apps much more responsive.
By the way I'm not talking about current browser caching mechanisms. I'm talking about a database where versions are tracked and managed so that the locally stored copies are cohereent and compatible. What would happen here is that upon start of a web app the first part of the web app to run would check to see if all the stored code was up to date and download the required segments as needed.
One thing I don't see Apple doing is using a web app to run native code. That would be a huge security risk.
Dave
Honestly I've not kept up with web tech so I'm asking if anybody knows if the new HTML spec supports local storage of code. I know I heard something about client side storage so the thought is that Javascript could go in there. That might not help when disconnected, but code nearly managed and stored in a database would make many web apps much more responsive.
By the way I'm not talking about current browser caching mechanisms. I'm talking about a database where versions are tracked and managed so that the locally stored copies are cohereent and compatible. What would happen here is that upon start of a web app the first part of the web app to run would check to see if all the stored code was up to date and download the required segments as needed.
One thing I don't see Apple doing is using a web app to run native code. That would be a huge security risk.
Dave
Very doubtful. Apple makes major $$$ on hardware. Their margins are the highest (?) in the industry. It only makes sense to become a software/services company when you're not printing money with your hardware.
I think Apple is trying to establish itself as a leader in "cloud" apps. They recognize that the computer is changing that "lifestyle" devices are the future. I'm sure Macs (and PCs) will be around for a long, long time, but they are going to be increasingly overshadowed by devices like the iPod Touch and iPhone, a future iTablet, etc.
Apple wants MobileMe to be the leader in this new cloud arena. Adding functionality from iWork and iLife makes sense, but I doubt it will ever replace a Mac and native apps. Just like Mail for iPhone is a stripped down version of desktop Mail, I think we'll see more and more stripped down web versions of Apple apps.
MobileMe actually becomes a lot more compelling if it includes browser-based document editing, simple movie edits (from your new iPhone with a *real* camera that does video), etc.
Actually, iWeb on MobileMe might be the only one that actually makes perfect sense.
If this happens, there's really no point in getting a Mac anymore for the average consumer, is there? They'd just get Mobile Me and any Windows PC. Why not?
Safari? I can get that on a PC.
iTunes? Also on PC.
Mail? On Mobile Me.
Address Book? Also on Mobile Me.
iCal? Yup, on mobile me.
and then if this goes through...
iMovie, iPhoto, iWeb, Garageband? All on mobile me.
Along with Pages, Keynote, and Numbers.
If this happens, where is the intensive for anyone to buy a mac, at all? Any "Joe Six Pack" would just buy a PC, download iTunes and Safari, subscribe to mobile me, and have all of the benefits of having a Mac without buying the hardware... or is this what they want?
Safari? I can get that on a PC.
iTunes? Also on PC.
Mail? On Mobile Me.
Address Book? Also on Mobile Me.
iCal? Yup, on mobile me.
and then if this goes through...
iMovie, iPhoto, iWeb, Garageband? All on mobile me.
Along with Pages, Keynote, and Numbers.
If this happens, where is the intensive for anyone to buy a mac, at all? Any "Joe Six Pack" would just buy a PC, download iTunes and Safari, subscribe to mobile me, and have all of the benefits of having a Mac without buying the hardware... or is this what they want?
I could see iWork going to the cloud - it makes sense. Being able to easily share documents, edit them from wherever, and automatically backup to the cloud is great for an office suite.
iMove on the cloud is doable. Youtube handles uploading of thousands of video clips all the time. Editing would likely be limited to simple things (clipping, adding soundtracks, transitions, that kind of thing). If they want to minimise server processing, why not include a server application on your Mac? Your Mac will stream video as its needed and do the processing work. It'll be like those torrent applications which *cough* I'm told have web interfaces to control downloads, just with a more complex interface.
Still, even though it is technically possible, I don't think it'll work. Web services are for things that you do at public computers or on the go. People don't edit movies on the go or at public computers. It's a time-intensive task.
A web-based version of iTunes might be possible. Either streaming music from your Mac or from the iTunes servers (only for purchased material). Apple don't even like to let you re-download purchased music, so I think the former is more likely if this ever happens. It'd also be great for iPhone/iPT users if the interface is accessible to those devices.
iMove on the cloud is doable. Youtube handles uploading of thousands of video clips all the time. Editing would likely be limited to simple things (clipping, adding soundtracks, transitions, that kind of thing). If they want to minimise server processing, why not include a server application on your Mac? Your Mac will stream video as its needed and do the processing work. It'll be like those torrent applications which *cough* I'm told have web interfaces to control downloads, just with a more complex interface.
Still, even though it is technically possible, I don't think it'll work. Web services are for things that you do at public computers or on the go. People don't edit movies on the go or at public computers. It's a time-intensive task.
A web-based version of iTunes might be possible. Either streaming music from your Mac or from the iTunes servers (only for purchased material). Apple don't even like to let you re-download purchased music, so I think the former is more likely if this ever happens. It'd also be great for iPhone/iPT users if the interface is accessible to those devices.
This would be especially lame for those of us whose ISP's limit their downloads to X number of GB per month to account for their bandwidth more evenly.
Billy
Billy
If they are going to release iMovie 09, what new features are going to be in the new release? For one, they need to add back all the efx/transitions that were in iMovie HD6 and make it a full product again from 08 version. That would be square one. From there, what features would you want the most?
This is all and fine, except when you need to edit something and you don't have an internet connection.
Uh, no it doesn't.
And the biggest deal is the time it would take to up- and download files. Don't know if you've noticed, but file transfers on a local network are several times faster than internet downloads and even more so uploads. Wifi doesn't change that, only faster lines into and out of houses will.
im against internet apps esp with isp's moving towards caps on usage/month
not to mention the performance hit
not to mention the performance hit
My favorite time of the year!
It's not just the holidays which makes this time of the year so good. It's the fact that just about any totally crazy mac related rumors (no matter just how crazy) can get published!
Yippee! Keep 'em coming!
It's not just the holidays which makes this time of the year so good. It's the fact that just about any totally crazy mac related rumors (no matter just how crazy) can get published!
Yippee! Keep 'em coming!
Then there is no point in taking it to the web, a normal app can do the same much better. It will probably be a better way to upload Youtube movies and edit the low rez version online, that i can believe and is already happening.