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Yeah, I don't see a video editing app being 'in the cloud'. That would render it useless to alot of people...Just imagine all that uploading and downloading, especially considering ISP's are starting to bottleneck users that do excessive uploading/downloading (especially in the UK)
 
Yeah, I don't see a video editing app being 'in the cloud'. That would render it useless to alot of people...Just imagine all that uploading and downloading, especially considering ISP's are starting to bottleneck users that do excessive uploading/downloading (especially in the UK)

Yeah, it just doesn't seem feasible. Web-based productivity apps such as the ones offered by Google make sense (and they're not even where they need to be yet) but not a video editing/creation app such as iMovie - unless I'm missing something. Apple, if this is indeed true, this will have to be one good justification. ;)
 
Good thing, since that's not the actual rumor anyway.

"iMovie in the Cloud would also offer users the ability to easily view their movies on iPod Touches or iPhones. If the application is entirely Web based, it means that potential customers include the "other 90%" of users who use Windows."

Watching movies from the web on an iDevice - that sounds like the finished thing getting put on the web. Either you upload it after it's done, or you upload the footage and it's processed online.

And god help Apple is the 'other 90%' have to experience

a) iMovie ( which is bad )
b) Online ( which given Mobile Me is guarenteed to be a farce)

This is one rumour that is just too idiotic to be true.

To be honest, I don't care. I would rather find a PC and use Premiere than use iMovie. But this rumour puts more weight behind the iWork 'cloud' rumours which, similarly, I really don't like the sound of - and Keynote IS something I need, and need to be offline.

Doug
 
Omgggg

They wouldn't. This is obvious.

Snow Leopard is based around the speed of the OS. Not the internet connection. So why would they put these apps in the cloud, because if they did, snow leopard would have nothing to show. Apart from how fast it loads safari.

Anyone with me?

-Sam
 
They wouldn't. This is obvious.

Snow Leopard is based around the speed of the OS. Not the internet connection. So why would they put these apps in the cloud, because if they did, snow leopard would have nothing to show. Apart from how fast it loads safari.

Anyone with me?

-Sam

I'm with you, very good point. What they're up to may just be some new and easy ways to put your content on the web (and in an iPhone-friendly way), be it videos, spread sheets, presentations or text documents.
 
It's probably more like this...

You WILL NOT have to upload your raw footage to MobileMe or the cloud. That stays local to your computer, or better yet the new unannounced Time Capsule/Server thing. The iMovie and iWork apps are online apps, and (*bing*) Apple updates them automatically all the time. Your Mac/iPhone/MacBook "download" the iApp and runs it local on your processor. If your movie data is local it uses that. If you're on your iPhone well I bet you can't edit a movie on that, but the other apps don't need as much data, so you can edit a Keynote/Numbers/Pages document on the go. The data either stays in the cloud, or you are accessing it from your home iServer/TimeCapsule thingy. If you want to publish an iMovie that will take some time, but the other docs will save to the cloud and your iServer.
 
They wouldn't. This is obvious.

Snow Leopard is based around the speed of the OS. Not the internet connection. So why would they put these apps in the cloud, because if they did, snow leopard would have nothing to show. Apart from how fast it loads safari.

Anyone with me?

-Sam

+1

Other than this is maybe Apple decides to use some kind of a linkage with the web app and the iMovie app in 10.6..... baah sounds kinda crazy to me!

Whats up with 9to5 these days.. first its the "two-tone" MB/P and now this!
 
I definately agree that Apple shoudl make a bunch of Apps to allow users to edit and save Keynote/Pages files, etc on an iphone, but I don't even see the point of an iPhone version of iMovie. Sure, they can make an easier method of uploading finished videos to 'the cloud' but wouldn't that be an improvement to MobileMe? Then users could access the iPhone version of the video and watch it on the iPhone.
 
I definately agree that Apple shoudl make a bunch of Apps to allow users to edit and save Keynote/Pages files, etc on an iphone, but I don't even see the point of an iPhone version of iMovie. Sure, they can make an easier method of uploading finished videos to 'the cloud' but wouldn't that be an improvement to MobileMe? Then users could access the iPhone version of the video and watch it on the iPhone.

It would make even more sense if the iPhone could take a video in the first place.

If the idea is that an online version of iMovie could work with a local video file, then having an iPhone that can take simple videos for editing "in the cloud" on the fly would be an interesting development.
 
This sounds like a horrible idea, even if it WORKED, which there is no chance in hell that it will.

Mail, Address Book, and Cal don't even work. Not the way they should...how could they take such a leap after getting their simplest apps WRONG the first time around the webapp world?
 
+1

Other than this is maybe Apple decides to use some kind of a linkage with the web app and the iMovie app in 10.6..... baah sounds kinda crazy to me!

Whats up with 9to5 these days.. first its the "two-tone" MB/P and now this!

Given the way they've "misunderstood" things in recent months, my guess is they've missed a key component here. Obviously the news has something to do with:

1. Video and Mobile Me
2. Video and the iPhone/iPod touch

Whether or not they're right on about iMovie, we'll see.

oh and iMovie 08 sucks, ftw
 
oh and iMovie 08 sucks, ftw

Couldn't agree more. iMovieHD '06 is SO much better. iMovie08 was obviously a big mistake on their part, evidenced by the fact that they had to offer iMovieHD as a free download to people with iLife08 installed.

And I think they need to seriously re-think their "cloud" efforts. We all saw what a fiasco MobileMe was. They need to master the cloud technology they have now before taking anything else on.
 
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FF_productions said:
When our net speeds increase, then we can talk about editing movies in a web-based App.

I'm sorry but this is PRE-mature to do at this point in time, the ISP's need to seriously boost bandwidth for this to work.

And, Apple needs to learn how to release software without making people involuntary beta testers (MobileMe didn't start out so good).

Apple, get your heads out of your rich asses if this is true. Not everybody thinks every direction u take is the right one, everyones got a right to voice an opinion, and for once in a blue moon, I not only disagree with this, but I'm angered by all this web-based talk at THIS point in time.

As opposed to this point in... space?
 
As opposed to this point in... space?

He emphasized the word "this" so I assume he meant "as of right now", i.e. he wouldn't be against web-based apps in the future if Internet connections were faster, MobileMe was more stable and other conditions were satisfactorily addressed.
 
iLife '10

I'm surprised people haven't started to comment on the new iLife suite which will be release:

iPhoto with the capability to add captions on the picture as well as tagging.

iWeb with frames and a html editor.

And the most important thing of all of these apps will be 100% Cocoa!

Including iTunes!

What does Cocoa mean for us? Speed, speed and more speed!
 
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Wow. Some people need to wait and actually see what, if anything, comes of the rumor before declaring war.

Look at thread #500. Reminds me a lot of some of the blind ranting in this thread.

Now, if I had to guess, I'd say if there were to be a cloud-based component to iMovie it would be a light feature quickie app for editing low-res videos and publishing to You Tube or similar. Basically iMovie as it is now, for low res clips (think iSight or, dare we hope, they add video to iPhone.).

This would probably be an add-on to a desktop iMovie 09, which will hopefully see some beefing up (some new image effects, new titles, maybe a simple 2-track option).
 
im against internet apps esp with isp's moving towards caps on usage/month

not to mention the performance hit

I can see it now....There will be mobs of freelance graphic designers fighting for chairs at Starbucks so they can finish their projects after reaching their usage cap at home in the first week. My wife will be one of them. I can hardly wait for the day when she walks in the door at 5:30pm after four Venti non-fat iced caramel Macchiattos. Cloud computing is going to create one helluva storm.
 
You gots to be kidding!

Putting iMovie on the web is a ridiculous and unworkable idea. It would take all day just to upload the raw footage from an afternoon at the beach!
 
I'd maybe understand if when you create movies on the desktop iMovie app there was an option to upload a low quality export of the movie in the format for an iPhone / iPod Touch, but the whole of iMovie on the internet? thats just stupid. Image editing, let alone movie editing, its rather hard to do on the internet, and more or less always ends up being done in Flash or some similar technology, Javascript is not remotely powerful enough for it.
 
Bad Idea to move online

I know that Microsoft has been talking about moving apps online for some time. If you are in an area that has limited or no broadband, are your paid apps are no good? I personally I work offline all the time. Train Plane ect. If our online infrastructure was better, then maybe. A lot of money needs to be spent on communications before all of this is possible. The cart is ahead of the horse... I can't see Apple doing this.
 
Strangely enough just today i was listening to the Steve Jobs & Bill Gates interview at 'all things d' last year (at least i think it was last year!)

Suddenly they started talking about the cloud and cloud computing.

Steve said a lot about the MARRIGE of the cloud and the client (i assume thats the computer). He cited google maps on the iphone as an example.

Seemed to me he was saying at the moment you need the 2 together, but that together you can have a lot more than keeping them separate.

Maybe you can stil download the podcast - it was about 40mins in - i will check when i get home!
 
You WILL NOT have to upload your raw footage to MobileMe or the cloud. That stays local to your computer, or better yet the new unannounced Time Capsule/Server thing. The iMovie and iWork apps are online apps, and (*bing*) Apple updates them automatically all the time. Your Mac/iPhone/MacBook "download" the iApp and runs it local on your processor.

Er - you mean like what happens now with software update? They're not online apps if you have to download them and run them offline, are they?
 
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