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Caught this over at HuffPo, and had to laugh to myself, as we are spoiled over here in the American Southwest! At least now when I go back to visit my grandparents and godmother, I don't have to deal with eating at or seeing a Sonic on every other corner! Video is included in the link, so enjoy!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/12/in-n-out-burger-north-texas-expansion_n_861172.html

In-N-Out Burger Expands To North Texas, People Line Up (UPDATE)

In-N-Out Burger, the extremely popular and fanatically-followed California-based burger chain, has long remained a staple of the western United States.

But on Wednesday, May 11, history was made. The first two In-N-Out Burger restaurants east of Arizona opened up in Frisco and Allen, Texas.

The response has been overwhelming thus far. Many customers camped overnight in the parking lot on Tuesday, hoping to be the first to taste the legendary burger, while others waited for hours in the lengthy drive-thru line, which stretched over two miles during the lunchtime rush on Wednesday.

"I went to the Frisco [location] at midnight last night hoping to bypass the crazy lunch hour line I'd seen on YouTube," James Sullivan, a North Texas resident, told HuffPost. He waited a while before an In-N-Out employee approached his car and told him they'd unfortunately have to send him home. "She said there was a three-hour wait."

Nick Rallo, the web editor for the Dallas Observer, furthered news of the commotion in his area. "If you were to draw a Venn Diagram yesterday, one circle would be In-N-Out Burger, the other would be thunderstorms, and the middle would be everybody," he said. "You would think the pope was here."

Police officers directed traffic as the hordes of waiting customers led themselves in renditions of the In-N-Out Burger theme song. One woman cried real tears after she tasted her first Double Double, the iconic two-patty In-N-Out staple, and some even decked themselves in full In-N-Out Burger clothing, donning t-shirts and caps they'd ordered online.

The commotion is nothing new. The family-owned and operated In-N-Out franchise has long inspired a fervent cult following for their fresh, made-to-order burgers. Their mantra: Nothing is frozen, nothing is microwaved.

The company is so dedicated to this founding principal, in fact, that it recently opened a new distribution plant in Texas to house its beef production facilities, so the meat could be supplied locally.

Other local Texas burger chains are also paying attention. Whataburger, which has held the burger torch in North Texas for over 60 years, planned to welcome In-N-Out to the neighborhood with some southern hospitality. A representative will hand-deliver a gift of "orange cowboy boots" to the two new In-N-Out locations on Thursday.

“As two companies with similar principles," Joel Griffiths, Regional Director of Operations of Whataburger, said in a statement, "We look forward to a little friendly competition."

Though according to a piece from "D Magazine," In-N-Out actually sued Whataburger in 2000 after they referred to one of their burgers as a "Double-Double," a term In-N-Out had previously trademarked.

"We're a privately held company and wouldn't be able to discuss details," Griffiths said of the 2000 suit. "But I can tell you that the matter was settled a long time ago. We welcome them to Texas.”

North Texas also seems an appropriate fit for the expanding In-N-Out presence, considering its propensity of churches and Christian residents. In-N-Out's roots are largely Christian, and the chain even refers to bible verses on its food and drink items. "John 3:16" is printed in small text on the bottom of soda cups, milkshakes point to "Proverbs 3:5," and burger wrappers bear "Revelation 3:20."

Chad Selph, senior pastor at First Baptist Church of Allen, admires the strong positivity inherent to In-N-Out's message and plans to eat at the restaurant himself. "As soon as the lines die down," he said.

"As a pastor I’m grateful for their interest in sharing inspirational Bible verses on their packaging," Selph added. "They are living out Jesus’ call to be 'salt and light' in the world."

No In-N-Out spokesperson was available for comment on this story. According to a representative at the In-N-Out headquarters in California, all appropriate representatives were traveling home after spending Wednesday in Texas.

Other In-N-Out outposts in Dallas, Fort Worth, Arlington, Irving and Garland, Texas, are slated to open in the coming months, but as of now, no plans exist to build other locations farther east.

UPDATE (5:05 p.m. EST): Carl Van Fleet, vice president of planning and development for In-N-Out Burger, confirmed to HuffPost that the company had been working on the Texas expansion for at least seven or eight years, and while they're very pleased with the results of the May 11 openings, they will not be expanding to other states any time soon.

"This is our fifth state, and we're not even considering a sixth at this time," he said. "We have other growth opportunities in our existing states that we're looking into."

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I went to the west coast for the first time this past March and was clamoring for an in-n-out burger since I had heard so much about it. Finally I tried it and while it was pretty good I dont think it was "out of this world best burger ever" like some west coasters make it sound..... in fact I prefer shake shack or five guys here in NYC.
 
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North Texas also seems an appropriate fit for the expanding In-N-Out presence, considering its propensity of churches and Christian residents. In-N-Out's roots are largely Christian, and the chain even refers to bible verses on its food and drink items. "John 3:16" is printed in small text on the bottom of soda cups, milkshakes point to "Proverbs 3:5," and burger wrappers bear "Revelation 3:20."

I understand that for some eating a hamburger can be a religious experience, but why print bible verses on fast food wrappers. In my mind it doesn't really align with Jesus' branding, amirite?
 
I went to the west coast for the first time this past March and was clamoring for an in-n-out burger since I had heard so much about it. Finally I tried it and while it was pretty good I dont think it was "out of this world best burger ever" like some west coasters make it sound..... in fact I prefer shake shack or five guys here in NYC.

Same here. I was in LA last year and tried In-N-Out. It was good, but not the best burger I've had. For fast food burgers, nothing beats White Castle IMO...as long as you're going to be near a bathroom and not in any enclosed spaces for about 5 hours afterwards :D

I understand that for some eating a hamburger can be a religious experience, but why print bible verses on fast food wrappers. In my mind it doesn't really align with Jesus' branding, amirite?

Especially when the wrappers end up in the trash. Seems a bit sacrilege. Not that that bothers me :D
 
With no apologies, In-N-Out makes a good fast-food burger (I'd put it on par with Whataburger or Sonic), but it seriously isn't worth waiting in line for. I'd rather eat Five Guys, and there are a TON of burger joints around north Texas that are way better than either place, although they're pretty much local joints.

Ever-so-slightly-off-topic: this place opens in Dallas today. Can't wait to try it!
 
With no apologies, In-N-Out makes a good fast-food burger (I'd put it on par with Whataburger or Sonic), but it seriously isn't worth waiting in line for. I'd rather eat Five Guys, and there are a TON of burger joints around north Texas that are way better than either place, although they're pretty much local joints.

Ever-so-slightly-off-topic: this place opens in Dallas today. Can't wait to try it!

Agreed. Have you tried Smashburger! My current favorite.

Will have to check out Heart Attack Grill! ;)
 
With no apologies, In-N-Out makes a good fast-food burger (I'd put it on par with Whataburger or Sonic), but it seriously isn't worth waiting in line for. I'd rather eat Five Guys, and there are a TON of burger joints around north Texas that are way better than either place, although they're pretty much local joints.

Ever-so-slightly-off-topic: this place opens in Dallas today. Can't wait to try it!

I agree. I lived in LA for a little while, and I don't understand what all the hype was about. I actually thought Carl's Jr was a better option when I was there. Here in Houston we have Five Guys, but I prefer a place like Prime, where you can order it cooked exactly how you like it. I can't eat a burger unless it is super rare, and you just can't get it cooked like that at Five Guys. Though their fries are really good.

And as for the Heart Attack Grill, the next time I'm in Dallas, I'm totally going! I saw that place profiled on the Food Network.
 
I agree. I lived in LA for a little while, and I don't understand what all the hype was about. I actually thought Carl's Jr was a better option when I was there. Here in Houston we have Five Guys, but I prefer a place like Prime, where you can order it cooked exactly how you like it. I can't eat a burger unless it is super rare, and you just can't get it cooked like that at Five Guys. Though their fries are really good.

And as for the Heart Attack Grill, the next time I'm in Dallas, I'm totally going! I saw that place profiled on the Food Network.

Yeah, that's my complaint with Five Guys, they cook everything well done. I like my burgers still mooing.
 
Agreed. Have you tried Smashburger! My current favorite.

I haven't, but I've heard great things. My favorite is Twisted Root, but I also like Scotty P's, Jake's, and Ball's. (Five Guys and Mooyah are pretty good for chains)

I can't eat a burger unless it is super rare, and you just can't get it cooked like that at Five Guys.

I like my burgers still mooing.

I once did, but when I spent time designing meat processing plants and distribution facilities, I learned a LOT about Escherichia coli and other bugs. Now I stick to medium-rare steak and medium-well (or better) ground meat.
 
I went to the west coast for the first time this past March and was clamoring for an in-n-out burger since I had heard so much about it. Finally I tried it and while it was pretty good I dont think it was "out of this world best burger ever" like some west coasters make it sound..... in fact I prefer shake shack or five guys here in NYC.

Californian right here and I actually prefer the Shack Stack to the Double Double. And your shakes are way better than the powdered crap at In N Out.

Only reason I go to In n Out is for the animal style fries. Only reason I go to Sonic is for the limeade
 
I haven't, but I've heard great things. My favorite is Twisted Root, but I also like Scotty P's, Jake's, and Ball's. (Five Guys and Mooyah are pretty good for chains)





I once did, but when I spent time designing meat processing plants and distribution facilities, I learned a LOT about Escherichia coli and other bugs. Now I stick to medium-rare steak and medium-well (or better) ground meat.

I prefer, in this case, to think that ignorance is bliss. :D I eat my steak black and blue as well, and knock on wood, have yet to have any ill effects. Though, if it does happen I may change my mind. But I think I would just stop eating burgers all together because I just can't stomach eating them overcooked.

I do blame my grandmother. We're Italian and when she would make meatballs on Sunday we all used to eat the raw chopped meat. And at 93 and counting she still does.
 
I went to the west coast for the first time this past March and was clamoring for an in-n-out burger since I had heard so much about it. Finally I tried it and while it was pretty good I dont think it was "out of this world best burger ever" like some west coasters make it sound..... in fact I prefer shake shack or five guys here in NYC.

Agree. Especially when those burger patties are appeitizer portioned.

Sounds like plenty of people never had a burger at fuddruckers. (much longer wait though)
 
Get a real burger...

You have to understand that Frisco and Allen are the ultimate in plastic suburbia. Plenty of idiot posers with disposable income for a fast-food burger from a chain of restaurants that has gotten lots of publicity. They will buy what they are told. The best burger joints are not chains - they are usually the mom&pop, whole in the wall places you have to seek out. When you find one of those with a wait to get a seat, you know you are in the right spot. In-and-Out burgers are not bad, but nothing spectacular. Sonics just plain suck. Five Guys are nothing special, I found them dry and boring. Smashburgers are pretty good, I have been back for more. There is a local spot called Burger Guys that is pretty impressive. The first time I went the line was out the door and I had didn't have time to wait. Beck's Prime makes good burgers, but are a bit pricey for what you get. In Texas, if you want just a drive-thru burger, Whataburger is hard to beat.
 
With no apologies, In-N-Out makes a good fast-food burger (I'd put it on par with Whataburger or Sonic), but it seriously isn't worth waiting in line for. I'd rather eat Five Guys, and there are a TON of burger joints around north Texas that are way better than either place, although they're pretty much local joints.

Ever-so-slightly-off-topic: this place opens in Dallas today. Can't wait to try it!


I am with you except for the fact that I do think In-N-Out is better than Wataburger and Sonic but sure as hell not worth waiting in a long line for. In-N-Out also cater to people with gluten allergy pretty well by server a non bun burger and instead of a bun is is wrap in lettuce. My ex GF loved that fact as she can not handled gluten.

I think it is insane people waited that long for what and the end of the day is just a fast food hamburger.

As for a place like Five Guys I would not put it in the same category as In-N-Out. It is more of a sit down burger joint. I also will agree DFW has a lot of great burger joints.
 
Agree. Especially when those burger patties are appeitizer portioned.

Sounds like plenty of people never had a burger at fuddruckers. (much longer wait though)


Fudrucker's makes some awesome burgers. Sadly, the one by me closed a few years ago. I miss them.
 
Fudrucker's burgers suck!

Five Guys and Portillo's make awesome burgers! :)

What's wrong with Fudd? They make good Turkey burgers!

Here in Cambridge, MA, we have a place called Four Burgers. They use `all natural' ingredients, which makes them somewhat expensive. However, they make really delicious burgers.
 
I haven't, but I've heard great things. My favorite is Twisted Root, but I also like Scotty P's, Jake's, and Ball's. (Five Guys and Mooyah are pretty good for chains)





I once did, but when I spent time designing meat processing plants and distribution facilities, I learned a LOT about Escherichia coli and other bugs. Now I stick to medium-rare steak and medium-well (or better) ground meat.

What, no love for Kincaid's? :)

I've been there a few times while visiting my brother in the DFW area. I liked them. I may have to ask him about the other places.
 
If people think these fast food joints make the best burgers, then they don't get out much. Now if they are the best for what they are, fine, but they are hardly the best burgers in the world......

If you want a good cheeseburger in NYC, Colicchio and Sons Tap Room makes the best I have had. For a simple hamburger, hop on a plane to London, UK and go to Gordon Ramsay's restaurant for it. Cheese would ruin that hamburger.
 
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Fuddruckers is good for a chain, but the best burgers I've had are the ones by the locally owned places. If you're ever in St. Louis, stop by Blueberry Hill if you want a real burger.
 
LOL, I grew up in Frisco and remember when it was only one high school. That city has gotten huge! I guess in-n-out burger is not so in-n-out.... :p
 
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