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I dont know about a replaceable battery beeing such a feature or if it would make a big difference.
I owned cellphones for over 12 years and never once needed to carry an extra fully charged battery to swap or replace a battery on a cellphone.
If anything having a car or home charger would be alot easier to plug in for a quick recharge on the car or anywhere
 
Android will be stronger than ever, though.

So what? You think most people care about the operating system they are using, they identify more with the phones they are using and not the operating system they are using on the phone.
 
Biased fanboy rant... *YAWN*

Fanboyism at its finest: "I don't like it, therefore it must be useless because my opinion is universal." :rolleyes:

I take 90% of my pictures at parties and in bars, both of which are usually dark and require a flash. The iPhone can't even capture images in those settings, but the Droid hasn't had a problem.

And? What difference does that make, most reviewers have said the Android camera is garbage.
 
I dont know about a replaceable battery beeing such a feature or if it would make a big difference.

Obviously features are included for those who use them, not those who won't. Batteries, camera flash, Adobe Flash, keyboards, FM radios, whatever.

I owned cellphones for over 12 years and never once needed to carry an extra fully charged battery to swap or replace a battery on a cellphone.

I don't usually carry a spare, but I do keep one charging at home to swap in when switching between work and play mode.

I do carry a spare on trips and use them a lot. Just this past weekend my daughter was watching her stored movies on a long flight, and when we landed I swapped in my full spare.

If anything having a car or home charger would be alot easier to plug in for a quick recharge on the car or anywhere

That's neither easy nor quick. Swapping batteries takes just seconds.

I think a lot of people adjust their usage to their phone's limitations.

Cheers!
 
Anyone else getting kind of tired of the feature by feature comparisons of iPhone and every other smartphone out there?

If you go my features, the iPhone loses most battles with other phones out there. It is the overall experience of using the phone and the complete package that sets it apart. It isn't a boxing match where each round represents a feature.
 
Biased fanboy rant... *YAWN*

Fanboyism at its finest: "I don't like it, therefore it must be useless because my opinion is universal." :rolleyes:

I take 90% of my pictures at parties and in bars, both of which are usually dark and require a flash. The iPhone can't even capture images in those settings, but the Droid hasn't had a problem.
Fanboy, far from it. Its an opinion and is free, take it or leave it. I am not a fanboy or brand loyal of any brand, I try to potray an objective picture.

I find the flash of point and shoot cameras lacking in dark settings, let alone a phone flash.

Since you take lot of pictures phone flash, please post good examples of pictures that came out good because of a phone flash, that would be educational for me.
 
It's the next best thing after an iPhone.

With 100,000 sold in its first week, I think to some people it might be better than the iPhone. Calling one phone better than another is always opinion, and never fact. I got rid of my iPhone for 2 reasons

a) att service
b) sometimes i want to just grab a pdf and throw it a sd card so I can read it on the subway. (Change pdf with whatever type of file you like etc.)

It seemed like a lot of the features I need from my phone, I couldn't get without jailbreaking. So I left. Do I miss it? Not at all, I found a better solution for myself. Do I think that my new Android phone is better? I think it's better for ME, but I have no idea about the rest of the world. Apple has never sent me one single check for liking their products or for telling the rest of the world how great they are. So, I think I might just worry about myself. I wish other people were able to do the same.
 
With 100,000 sold in its first week, I think to some people it might be better than the iPhone. Calling one phone better than another is always opinion, and never fact. I got rid of my iPhone for 2 reasons

a) att service
b) sometimes i want to just grab a pdf and throw it a sd card so I can read it on the subway. (Change pdf with whatever type of file you like etc.)

It seemed like a lot of the features I need from my phone, I couldn't get without jailbreaking. So I left. Do I miss it? Not at all, I found a better solution for myself. Do I think that my new Android phone is better? I think it's better for ME, but I have no idea about the rest of the world. Apple has never sent me one single check for liking their products or for telling the rest of the world how great they are. So, I think I might just worry about myself. I wish other people were able to do the same.

We can say the iphone is better because it has the highest satisfaction rates in the industry which none of the Android phones or Android itself comes close to. The number of Droids sold is not even that far off the number Palm sold of the Pre and that was on a smaller network and not even the largest network in America. Heck I bet the crappy original Blackberry Storm sold more units than the Droid in its opening weekend.
 
You can tell your friend that his attempt to spin the iPhone's flaws was sort of weak. Verizon's iDon't campaign raises some valid points.

I added my comments to his blog.
 
We can say the iphone is better because it has the highest satisfaction rates in the industry which none of the Android phones or Android itself comes close to...

That's an absurd stance. The Droid is new and hasn't been out long enough for you to draw any conclusions about its customer satisfaction. Its also impossible to draw CS conclusions about Android 2.0 because they are split between different hardware, carriers, and builds with differing themes and focuses; not when comparing those CS numbers to a three devices that are running the same basic OS made by the same manufacturer.
 
We can say the iphone is better because it has the highest satisfaction rates in the industry ....

It's "better" if you judge by that alone, which is an overall feel-good rating about easiness and style.

Others care more about their functional needs being met.

For instance, Consumer Reports marked the iPhone best at multimedia, but lousy as a phone. They ranked the Storm good for messaging, and the Pre best at multitasking.
 
Agree with most points, but not on the replaceable battery. That may not be much of a problem in the US, but in countries with no Apple Stores having to replace a battery is a pain.
 
That's an absurd stance. The Droid is new and hasn't been out long enough for you to draw any conclusions about its customer satisfaction. Its also impossible to draw CS conclusions about Android 2.0 because they are split between different hardware, carriers, and builds with differing themes and focuses; not when comparing those CS numbers to a three devices that are running the same basic OS made by the same manufacturer.

Bull, I'm judging Android based on it's history. It has always fallen below iphone in the consumer satisfaction ratings, and I doubt Android 2.0 or Droid or whatever phone they bring is going to propel them ahead of the iphone anytime. I'm using historical data and not talking out of my ass.
 
Bull, I'm judging Android based on it's history. It has always fallen below iphone in the consumer satisfaction ratings, and I doubt Android 2.0 or Droid or whatever phone they bring is going to propel them ahead of the iphone anytime. I'm using historical data and not talking out of my ass.

The flaw in your logic is that the new hardware is significantly better so its going to yield higher satisfaction.

While I haven't used 7, everything I've read says its satisfaction is far higher than Vista when it launched. This applies to Android 2.0.

You are correct that historically Android satisfaction has been kind of low.
 
The flaw in your logic is that the new hardware is significantly better so its going to yield higher satisfaction.

While I haven't used 7, everything I've read says its satisfaction is far higher than Vista when it launched. This applies to Android 2.0.

You are correct that historically Android satisfaction has been kind of low.

It may be an improvement but it isn't that big of a leap to catapult Android in front of the iPhone in the eyes of the consumer.

It's "better" if you judge by that alone, which is an overall feel-good rating about easiness and style.

Others care more about their functional needs being met.

For instance, Consumer Reports marked the iPhone best at multimedia, but lousy as a phone. They ranked the Storm good for messaging, and the Pre best at multitasking.

I'm talking about overall. The iPhone is the industry leader in consumer satisfaction. It may not lead in every aspect but overall you can't get better than an iPhone in the eyes of the consumer.
 
Consumers are a fickle bunch. In the smartphone consumer demographic, there's an interesting mix of "herd mentality" versus "image/style" appeal, which the iPhone neatly captured. That's also the weakness in the demographic. It's possible that iPhone, as Yogi Berra once said "is so popular, nobody goes there anymore."

The iPhone was successful primarily because it rode on the coat tails of the iPod and iTunes business. There's no doubt that the product was first sold as an iPod media player with a phone built in. That continues to be its key feature. No other smartphone, whether it was Palm, Blackberry or Nokia offered the "iPod" experience on their devices.

That's why Apple spends time killing direct iTunes access on WebOS and is likely to examine how to trip up Motorola's desktop portal for their Media Link which purportedly works with iTunes and Windows Media Player.

I hope the competition spurs Apple to give us higher resolution screens and better "bang for the buck" in both hardware, software and the iTunes store experience.
 
I love how people try to downplay the benefits of having options then act like their opinion is gospel and the whole world should agree with them.

1. User replaceable battery is a benefit no matter how you look at it.
2. Physical keyboard only adds marginal thickness/weight and many prefer it over the virtual keyboards... not to mention it makes gaming much easier.
3. The flash allows you to take pictures where the iPhone would be completely useless.
 
I think way more people have car chargers in their car than spare batterys.
Thats way easier and practical than carrying an extra fully charged battery with you at all times.
You plug in your phone for 10-15 minutes while you drive and you're good to go.
For those once or twice a year occasions like in flights or whatever you can always purchase an external battery to fully charge the iphones battery twice with 1 battery pack.


That's neither easy nor quick. Swapping batteries takes just seconds.

I think a lot of people adjust their usage to their phone's limitations.

Cheers!
 
I think way more people have car chargers in their car than spare batterys.
Thats way easier and practical than carrying an extra fully charged battery with you at all times.
You plug in your phone for 10-15 minutes while you drive and you're good to go.
Good to go for another full day? Do you have a nuclear fusion powered car? A miniature arc reactor from the Ironman series? That is rather impressive...
 
Wow, everyone here likes to argue for no reason I see.
Where in my post did you see me post you'd be good to go for another full day?:rolleyes:
If your battery is dying you can charge it for 10-15 minutes inside the car to make it last you a few more hours.......

Good to go for another full day? Do you have a nuclear fusion powered car? A miniature arc reactor from the Ironman series? That is rather impressive...
 
1. User replaceable battery is a benefit no matter how you look at it.

Very True. But the absence of that benefit is barley noticeable. There are also many Iphone battery extenders that are more cheaper and practical than carrying around a spare battery. Only REAL benefit is if the battery completely fails which doesn't happen very often, especially within the first 3 years which by then the average user will probably switch phones or upgrade.


2. Physical keyboard only adds marginal thickness/weight and many prefer it over the virtual keyboards... not to mention it makes gaming much easier.

That's completely relative to the actual user, which is ok by me. But at least make a good physical keyboard for the ones that what it. Droids keyboard sucks.


3. The flash allows you to take pictures where the iPhone would be completely useless.

Another thing Droid fails at. What a pos camera for having flash and 5mp.
At least Apple thinks before it throws in features.
 
If the iPhone or iPod was offered with a user replaceable battery . . . would that have been a "deal killer" for any of us? :rolleyes:

Put another way, if it was offered by Apple in the future, whether it was an iPod, iPhone or Macbook, would we shun that poor device? :D
 
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