If this is the case with the release, it's going to be a very long time before I move from 9.2. This is an idiotic move. I waited 2 months for a $100 accessory that they're taking functionality away from?
Boo.
Boo.
That's probably the desire. However, if that's the case it was a mistake to release the Pencil with those capabilities enabled in the first place.Could be the decision resulted from the idea that app developers will be lazy and optimise their IPP app interface to use with pencil only and not touch, which shouldn't be as it should be finger first and pencil as an add-on?
For artists the Pencil is a big deal.Of course I am. Is it too much to expect a "pro" tablet to be able to handle the most basic functions? The ipad is a huge headache when it comes to business type tasks. For social media, movie watching, basic note taking, Facetime, iMessage and other consumption tasks, the ipad is unbeatable. However, I have yet to see a huge difference between the Air 2 and the Pro aside from screen size and a pencil which apparently has limited functionality. It still runs a mobile OS that is completely app based, and still has to operate within the strict confines and limitations of ios. I like ios for what it is, but I'm just wondering what the pro does that lends itself to true business productivity.
What you see as "dumbing down" I see as "having focus". Apple is intent, and focused on creating a touch based app ecosystem. That is their mission. They also decided that within that ecosystem they wanted to have a Pencil for drawing and writing. But that is to play a smaller role inside their touch-based vision.
Some people (myself included) enjoy using devices with a razor sharp focus and purposeful design intent. I would rather have a device that is an absolute master at a few key tasks rather than a "general purpose" device that just does some stuff ok with many tradeoffs.
Other people are generalists and want machines to do a variety of tasks... there are plenty of platforms out there for those people. From your signature and your post I gather that you are one of them... I'm glad you were able to make the decision to switch to something that better meets your needs. However, I do question why you're still here...
Apple created the device so they can certainly make it work the way they intend(ed) for it to work: https://www.macrumors.com/2015/11/17/apple-pencil-jony-ive/
The pencil's purpose is not to just draw/write? ...What?
I'm pretty sure that is the main and only purpose for it. No where in the keynote when they announced it did they highlight UI scrolling. No where in any of their documents on the Apple Pencil do they mention UI scrolling. The keynote when they announced it was all about drawing/writing and nothing else (besides the tech involved.) In their documents about the Apple Pencil is all about drawing/writing and nothing else (besides the tech involved.)
If drawing/writing is all they've ever mention for the purpose of the pencil, then I would safely assume it's purpose is only drawing/writing.
So I'm using my pencil and when I need to do some multi tasking from app to app or go back to find something on my springboard I have to put the pencil down or hold it in a handicapped way in order to navigate the UI?
Well, clearly if Apple decides that the pencil isn't a stylus then you wouldn't be able to use it as one, which is Apple basically deciding if for you. Otherwise it's one of those jumping over hour heard type of situations, whether you can imagine it or not. The article that I linked to also demonstrated what Apple had in mind with the pencil, beyond the keynote or anything else.No one said Apple couldn't make the device work they way they intended, least of all me. I said Apple can't decide what your use of the pencil will be. People have found creative uses for every product ever invented. Uses beyond the manufacturers imagined use case.
As an aside, if Apple decides how you, C DM, use your products... that says something about you. What it is, I don't know. But it's something.
It's a keynote. It's used to introduce new products and services. It's not a detailed breakdown of all the benefits and features. It's a product highlight. Regarding your safe assumption? Might I suggest a bit more imagination. Besides, Apple had more imagination. They gave the pencil capabilities beyond drawing and writing.
I think the largest example of "razor sharp focus" is the lack of a filesystem because consumers are too dumb to navigate one.
Daggers out already on a function that has been removed from a beta, probably to test something else.
Imagine a world where everyone didn't jump to conclusions.![]()
Highly doubt iPad gets 3D Touch anytime soon.I'll venture that this has to do with the new iPad getting force touch, and the stylus not spreading the pressure over a large enough area as a finger.
It's a keynote. It's used to introduce new products and services. It's not a detailed breakdown of all the benefits and features. It's a product highlight. Regarding your safe assumption? Might I suggest a bit more imagination. Besides, Apple had more imagination. They gave the pencil capabilities beyond drawing and writing.
Well, clearly if Apple decides that the pencil isn't a stylus then you wouldn't be able to use it as one, which is Apple basically deciding if for you. Otherwise it's one of those jumping over hour heard type of situations, whether you can imagine it or not. The article that I linked to also demonstrated what Apple had in mind with the pencil, beyond the keynote or anything else.
I'm simply pointing out what Apple has seemingly had in mind with it all. No mental or other types gymnastics involved, just talking about the "is" aspect of it all, and not the "could/should". No commentary on my part has been offered as to it being good or bad or right or wrong.What? The pencil isn't a stylus? Maybe in the alternate reality of Ive. By every definition of what it does, it's a stylus. How did it come to be called a pencil? Easy, Ive made it up. How do I know? It's right in the article you linked.
Ive went on to talk about the naming of the Apple Pencil, explaining that he preferred "Pencil" to "stylus" because stylus "seems a product that's about technology," while Pencil "seems very analogue in its association.
That's pure Ive hubris... and marketing. A+ marketing. It's so good you have people doing mental gymnastics defending the "fact" it's a pencil and not a stylus. There's no science, technology, or wizardry that makes Apple's stylus a pencil. It's simply Ive deciding to call it that.
Clearly a portion of the market thinks they have the right to use the pencil in the way they see fit. Apple's vision notwithstanding. That's the way it should be; people using their products the way they want. Fortunately for those people, remaining on 9.2 allows them to continue to use their pencils they way they want.
Fair enough.I'm simply pointing out what Apple has seemingly had in mind with it all. No mental or other types gymnastics involved, just talking about the "is" aspect of it all, and not the "could/should". No commentary on my part has been offered as to it being good or bad or right or wrong.
I'm simply pointing out what Apple has seemingly had in mind with it all. No mental or other types gymnastics involved, just talking about the "is" aspect of it all, and not the "could/should". No commentary on my part has been offered as to it being good or bad or right or wrong.
But I still can't understand WHY the change? if people want to use the Pencil for UI navigation, why not let them? the hubris of Apple in cases like this baffle me.
I'm guessing they are trying to make it work the way they meant it to work which means addressing the oversight of releasing it the way they did with what is unintended additional functionality on their part. Now in this case the unintended functionality has turned out to be something useful to many, which certainly makes it a more complex and complicated issue.I got that.
But I still can't understand WHY the change? if people want to use the Pencil for UI navigation, why not let them? the hubris of Apple in cases like this baffle me.
iOS has a filesystem, obviously, and it operates under a logical design philosophy: you interact with files via the apps that use them. And if you really want a "Windows Explorer" type app to browse/move/copy/delete files, there are apps that do that, you just haven't bothered to look for them.
It sounds like you simply weren't willing, or weren't able, to learn how to use iOS. That's ok, there are other choices out there.
I'm simply pointing out what Apple has seemingly had in mind with it all. No mental or other types gymnastics involved, just talking about the "is" aspect of it all, and not the "could/should". No commentary on my part has been offered as to it being good or bad or right or wrong.
Well, to be fair, just to go with that particular comparison, in plenty of those situations the parents are in the right usually.I agree. Apple sometimes reminds me of a parent interacting with their kids and deciding what is best for them. Telling the kid they can't do something and when asked why, the answer is "because I told you so".
Well, to be fair, just to go with that particular comparison, in plenty of those situations the parents are in the right usually.