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Then why was it allowed to have additional functions when the tablet was introduced? Oversight on Apple's part?

Probably was and perhaps some apps in the app store is optimising their UI with Pencil as the primary input which apple doesn't want.
 
Sounds like they kind of want a "cake and eat it too" scenario; they defied Jobs' testament that there would never be a stylus. Now they have one, but it's "not really" a stylus (it's not supposed to be, at least). That would've gone down okay if it had never had these additional functions, but by taking them away, they're just going to anger customers who had already gotten used to the full capabilities of a stylus-and-iPad. They really screwed it up, in my opinion. If they wanted this sort of "drawing tool only", they could've easily done that and made it only have drawing/writing capabilities.
 
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Probably was and perhaps some apps in the app store is optimising their UI with Pencil as the primary input which apple doesn't want.

Because Apple never says anything on why they do or don't do things, we are all left to speculation only. But what wheelhot said is quite possibly why.

Perhaps they had a slew of apps get submitted to the App Store for approval that required the use of the Pencil in ways they didn't intent. Thus having to react and change things in 9.3 to avoid that in the future.
 
Absolutely ridiculous. If your holding the iPad with your left hand. It means you've got put the pencil down every time you need to adjust something. Its about time Jonny Ive started listening to what users need instead of continually thinking he knows best.
 
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Good. The Apple Pencil is an accessory, NOT a necessity to interact with iPad.

I'd disagree. As someone who has the iPad Pro, there is currently little reason to purchase one if you do not use the Pencil. The Pencil is the Pro's defining feature (and a fantastic one). Without the Pencil, it's just an oversized iPad, and though the size has its own benefits (videos, games, multitasking), for most people I'd bet those are not convincing enough features for the purchase price. Perhaps when iOS better supports more professional workflows, this might change.

I might agree with you that Apple never considered the Pencil to be the Pro's defining feature, given the absurd supply shortages at launch, and the lack of any place to store the Pencil either in the hardware or the case.

Unlike most people complaining here, I actually use the Apple Pencil daily. And speaking from a few months experience I welcome this.

Example: when using Notability for writing down notes with the Pencil I almost always just finger flick to scroll down the page, but instead of scrolling I get a line drawn across my sheet. I instead have to use a two-finger swipe. Annoying. I intuitively expect the app to act like an analogue notepad where my pencil writes and my finger moves pages around. Should be that simple. But right now it's not.[...]

Yeah, that's what I was getting at in my earlier message; that there might be technical issues (I've encountered many of the same problems as you mention) that Apple has taken another look at and said, "It's better for quality and software dependability if we narrow the focus of the Pencil". I think it's the fact that they're taking this feature away that has some bad optics, as there's obviously people that are enjoying using the Pencil as navigation tool. For me, navigational input is a net positive despite the occasional glitches, and so I won't be too happy if they take it away.
 
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I'd disagree. As someone who has the iPad Pro, there is currently little reason to purchase one if you do not use the Pencil. The Pencil is the Pro's defining feature (and a fantastic one). Without the Pencil, it's just an oversized iPad, and though the size has its own benefits (videos, games, multitasking), for most people I'd bet those are not convincing enough features for the purchase price. Perhaps when iOS better supports more professional workflows, this might change.

I might agree with you that Apple never considered the Pencil to be the Pro's defining feature, given the absurd supply shortages at launch, and the lack of any place to store the Pencil either in the hardware or the case.



Yeah, that's what I was getting at in my earlier message; that there might be technical issues (I've encountered many of the same problems as you mention) that Apple has taken another look at and said, "It's better for quality and software dependability if we narrow the focus of the Pencil". I think it's the fact that they're taking this feature away that has some bad optics, as there's obviously people that are enjoying using the Pencil as navigation tool. For me, navigational input is a net positive despite the occasional glitches, and so I won't be too happy if they take it away.
Well, as mentioned before, it seems like they wanted it to be like that from the beginning: https://www.macrumors.com/2015/11/17/apple-pencil-jony-ive/
 
Have you tried using the 3D Touch "cursor control," though (where you press down on the keyboard to move cursor in text entry field)? It almost always leaves the cursor one notch over from where it was when I picked up my finger!

So much this. I want the arrow keys from landscape mode!
 
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Very odd that Apple removed it since it's useful. Perhaps they were legally forced to since it's way too much a xerox of what Samsung did in 2012 if not earlier along with the split view menu that looks identical.
 
I think his point was that app developers might start writing apps that expect the user to be using a stylus, resulting in a worse user experience for the large majority that doesn't have one. I agree with you though, they should leave the capability. Let the market take care of it. People will complain if an app sucks to use without a stylus, or on their phone..

That is a valid point. Though as you say, if apple can allow so many damn copies of flappy birds, I choose to ignore them, I'd like to ignore apps that force me to use the stylus to navigate.

With the amount of utter garbage apps in the App Store, I'm not seeing Apple being too worried about quality of apps at times.
 
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It's a pencil not a stylus. A few weeks ago there was an article here on MR were Jon Ivy explained it that the pencil was just for drwawning. I guess the most of you read only what they want to read. And your replies says enough. Who do you think you are? You do not have anything to say about what  does or does not.
They're getting greedy. It's time for all of you to understand that.
And they laught and laught.
 
It's a pencil not a stylus. A few weeks ago there was an article here on MR were Jon Ivy explained it that the pencil was just for drwawning. I guess the most of you read only what they want to read. And your replies says enough. Who do you think you are? You do not have anything to say about what  does or does not.
They're getting greedy. It's time for all of you to understand that.
And they laught and laught.

Your user name makes sense now.
 
I wonder if they did this to really drive home the point that it's not a stylus. If so, that's so weak.
 
"The Apple Pencil is no longer able to be used for selecting and manipulating text or doing things like scrolling -- it's only available for selecting buttons and drawing, sketching, and writing within apps."

Great solution for the "out of stock"-problem. Now there will be plenty :)
 
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I wonder if they did this to really drive home the point that it's not a stylus. If so, that's so weak.
But it is a stylus and I think its really stupid of Apple to remove that functionality. I've been contemplating a IPP, but in all honesty I start questioning that when apple does something like this.
 
Did you know that it is impossible to open the Control Center or the Notification Center using the Apple Pencil? That's how it's been since the beginning and nobody seems to complain about that.
 
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Did you know that it is impossible to open the Control Center or the Notification Center using the Apple Pencil? That's how it's been since the beginning and nobody seems to complain about that.
Perhaps but then people are talking about a loss of functionality, which can be more frustrating.
 
Sounds like they kind of want a "cake and eat it too" scenario; they defied Jobs' testament that there would never be a stylus.

Really? Jobs said there would never be a stylus? Like he said there wouldn't be a smaller iPad or a larger iPhone. Like he said that no one reads books anymore (why there wasn't an iBookstore for quite a while).

Again - Jobs spoke about no need for a stylus because he was differentiating his product from the others. No keyboard. All touch interface. If the iPhone was pink and every other phone was blue - he would have said that pink was the only color that made sense for a cell phone.
 
1. This is a stupid decision.
2. Removing this feature which pretty much every Apple Pencil user uses and then failing completely to mention the removal is even stupider.

1. Agreed.
2. Not for nothing but its a beta so when its released to the public then that argument has validity (though I don't expect them to make any mention then). I may be splitting hairs and I don't expect apple to communicate anything but I think we need to wait and see first.
 
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