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Inception (*spoilers*)

Mac7 said:
Here is the thing. Time in the dream world goes quicker. So if the whole movie was a dream, wouldn't the characters be really old? The whole sequence of them planning the hiest spanned a couple months if I remembered right. Meaning if it was a dream, that would've been lots of decades. Making it impossible for them to be dreaming since none of them aged.
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Time goes slower in a dream. As in you sleep for 1 hour but someone can be in the dream for 10 hours.For example the van was falling normal but in the next few levels it was like slow motion for them.
 
Mexbearpig said:
Time goes slower in a dream. As in you sleep for 1 hour but someone can be in the dream for 10 hours.For example the van was falling normal but in the next few levels it was like slow motion for them.
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Thats what I was trying to imply.
 
Mexbearpig said:
Are you saying the this as is an if or a fact?
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In the movie it's a fact. As in, in the short amount of time it took the van to hit the water, in the next layer that they were in they still had so much more time to accomplish their task.
 
angelneo said:
Some people mentioned that the last level looks very out of place. I actually think the 3 levels or 4 levels represent a person subconscious very closely.

1st level, you have the crowded street. Everything is mundane and open, the sort of thoughts that you wouldn't mind everyone knowing.
2nd level, you have the hotel. It becomes more intimate especially the hotel rooms. Thoughts that you only want friends or someone close to you to know.
3rd level, Fortress in a no man land. The deepest secrets that you guard against everyone.
4th (or Limbo?), feels like a person free of constraints with his wildest imagination. The kind where once you get past a person defense and he/she opens up.
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Good observation

Mac7 said:
Here is the thing. Time in the dream world goes quicker. So if the whole movie was a dream, wouldn't the characters be really old? The whole sequence of them planning the hiest spanned a couple months if I remembered right. Meaning if it was a dream, that would've been lots of decades. Making it impossible for them to be dreaming since none of them aged.
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From what info the movie has given us, when they were planning and gathering the team, it might've taken a long time, but no one was in a dream, so dream time really doesn't have anything to do with anything.. I don't know what you're trying to get at.

They would age more, the deeper the level. If you believe in the theory that it was all a dream, and never reality, which is a possibilty due to the ending. Then it was accurately represented in the end cause the least amount of time spanned would be in level 1. Here's a break down.

lvl 0 - Real Reality <----- Least amount of time has passed
lvl 1 - "reality" or Cobb's dream
lvl 2 - Van
lvl 3 - Hotel
lvl 4 - Fortress
lvl 5 - ? anything past the fortress level is iffy <--- Longest amount of time has passed, hence the scene with Seito being super old, but when they're back on the plane, it's only been 10 hours. I think it was 10.

So we can say while lvl 5 it was something arounf 50 yrs of passing, it was only 10hrs on the plane.
 
What I was trying to say is that, the whole movie couldn't had been a dream since none of the characters aged.
 
Mac7 said:
In the movie it's a fact. As in, in the short amount of time it took the van to hit the water, in the next layer that they were in they still had so much more time to accomplish their task.
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If it was quicker it would be 1 hour of sleep/30 minutes in a dream
If it was slower it would be 1 hour of sleep/4 hours in a dream
So it would be slower...
 
I don't think the last scene was a dream. Because MAL doesn't appear in any of the "real world" scenes, and if this was supposed to be Cobb's "DREAM", MAL would be everywhere, including the last scene. (even though they Killed Mal in LIMBO -- because MAL was a projection, MAL can't be permanently killed in Cobb's dreams).
 
dogie678 said:
I don't think the last scene was a dream. Because MAL doesn't appear in any of the "real world" scenes, and if this was supposed to be Cobb's "DREAM", MAL would be everywhere, including the last scene. (even though they Killed Mal in LIMBO -- because MAL was a projection, MAL can't be permanently killed in Cobb's dreams).
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But you could make the argument that Cobb has mentally defeated her by the last scene, that's why she wasn't there.

But yes, all of the other "real world" scenes didn't have Mal in it, so I think you've got a good point. But there is always the possibility that it was a dream because "reality" as we saw it, was the highest level, so it would be the most stable, meaning less Mal. I think.... But I agree with you, that it wasn't all a dream, but I also can't totally rule out the other theory.
 
from what a friend told me after reading for hours and watching it a second time, is that every time he is Dreaming, he is wearing his wedding ring, and everytime he is actually awake he isnt wearing it.
ive seen it and i didnt catch up on this but i am going to see it again tonight and will be watching closely at the part where he wakes up and begins to spin his top but then grabs it because saito walks up, so ill see if i can notice his ring or not at that point.
 
My wife and I saw it again, and she noticed that he had a wedding band on anytime he was dreaming, but didn't have it on otherwise (including the end sequence). I'll have to pay attention the next time I see it, but that might lead me to believe he ended up back in 'reality'.
 
SamIchi said:
But you could make the argument that Cobb has mentally defeated her by the last scene, that's why she wasn't there.

But yes, all of the other "real world" scenes didn't have Mal in it, so I think you've got a good point. But there is always the possibility that it was a dream because "reality" as we saw it, was the highest level, so it would be the most stable, meaning less Mal. I think.... But I agree with you, that it wasn't all a dream, but I also can't totally rule out the other theory.
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the "real world" scenes near the start and middle of the movie did not have MAL. the scene where he "mentally defeated" Mal was near the end of the movie.

Also, the "real world" scenes (except the last scene) did not have Cobb's children. so im pretty convinced it's not a dream.
 
dogie678 said:
the "real world" scenes near the start and middle of the movie did not have MAL. the scene where he "mentally defeated" Mal was near the end of the movie.

Also, the "real world" scenes (except the last scene) did not have Cobb's children. so im pretty convinced it's not a dream.
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I wasn't talking about the scene where Mal stabs Cobb, and then "defeats" her, but the last scene where he finds her children, Cobb has already defeated her, hence why she doen't show up in the last scene. Just a thought in favor for the other theory.

But yea, I also agree that it wasn't a dream. Even though the last part was eerily played out.
 
heres an interesting theory...

The REAL inception happened TO LEO's character COBB!


Michael Cain's character (miles) TAUGHT Cobbs everything he knew! Miles was THE original extractor!


Miles and Ariadne performed an inception on Cobb so he could forget about MAL once and for all!
 
Someone needs to make a Yo Dawg Yo that goes like this:

Yo Dawg, I heard you like to dream, so we put a dream inside a dream inside a dream, so you can dream while you dream in your dreams.
 
TuffLuffJimmy said:
Someone needs to make a Yo Dawg Yo that goes like this:

Yo Dawg, I heard you like to dream, so we put a dream inside a dream inside a dream, so you can dream while you dream in your dreams.
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HAHA! I searched and found this!
yo-cobb.png
 
Wouldn't that one company at the beginning still be chasing cobb? for failing to get the information from Saito at the beginning.
 
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