I'm still using my 2016 MBP daily and the port is just fine. Done ~1300 battery cycles.
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India Considering New Rules That Could Force Apple to Adopt USB-C on iPhone
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I'm still using my 2016 MBP daily and the port is just fine. Done ~1300 battery cycles.
It doesn’t create more waste. Unless everyone literally throws their old iPhone in the trash bags.
People can sell their old iPhones + lightning gadgets
Keep using their 1-5!year old iPhone.
Give it to family members etc
Apple bread crumbs. Got to have something for next years big thing.
I'm all for Apple switching to USB-C (despite my experience with USB-C being less durable than lightning) but it seems so silly that governments feel the need to regulate it. Seems rather intrusive to me.
I can dangle my iPad Mini from the USB C connector. Even jiggle it a little. Before it slips off.
My concern with this is what happens when a better port or standard comes along or a company wants to build something that requires something different to actualize their vision. If this kind of law had been around with micro usb would we even have Type C? Laws are damn slow to change and usually follow change
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This is a not a real thing, especially as it relates to this topic specifically. It is entirely about convenience, and thinking that legislation is a way to bring that about. They haven't been told no by the right people.
Which is exactly why legislative bodies shouldn't actually be involved at all. USB-C is no where near as great as some people pretend it is, and it's already time for a newer and better designed connector to replace it. Good luck getting that to happen at all once pointless regulations are in place.
I see this comment a lot. What is everyone doing with their devices? I have everything USB-C and not one port has failed on me. Sure, I have had some lint, but that's easy to fix
The iPhone 14 is releasing within a month
It is simply not possible to just “pull the trigger and do it”
The design to manufacturing process takes a long time
I understand your point.
But what if two better ports or standards come along? Having reached (or nearly so) the apparent USB-C nirvana, do we allow everything to fall apart again? Or do governments stand up and demand that companies speak to each other and come up agree USB-D or whatever?
If we have a physical connection standard, we can discuss/argue how it is managed. And allow all sorts of incremental improvements.
(I think micro-USB and mini-USB were awful. Especially when you had to plug devices into two sockets to get enough power. Surely no-one would have prevented moving on from them? I think everyone would have realised that they were just interim stepping stone standards.)
As much as many of us probably feel that way, that's a rather moot point now. Various governments have put into place "interesting" regulations that have affected both iPhone and iOS.
I understand people wanting a universal charger, but I have a few concerns about it.
USB-C connector isn’t as durable as the lightning connector. Anyone else think that it is too big? It is bigger than USB Mini and USB Micro.
Also, I hate for innovation to be hindered for Apple or any other company due to law requiring a specific port for charging.
USB-C seems fine now, but what about the future?
If there was laws 15 years ago requiring Apple to have micro USB ports for charging the iPhone in stead of the dock cable, would we ever of had Lightning?
Maybe if that was the law 15 years ago, we wouldn’t have USB-C now, and we would all be stuck with Micro USB on all of our devices.
USB-C connector isn’t as durable as the lightning connector. Anyone else think that it is too big? It is bigger than USB Mini and USB Micro.
Also, I hate for innovation to be hindered for Apple or any other company due to law requiring a specific port for charging.
USB-C seems fine now, but what about the future?
If there was laws 15 years ago requiring Apple to have micro USB ports for charging the iPhone in stead of the dock cable, would we ever of had Lightning?
Maybe if that was the law 15 years ago, we wouldn’t have USB-C now, and we would all be stuck with Micro USB on all of our devices.
For me my prior phone had a USB-C port for charging and after 3 years of use it became so loose that the cord would fall out if you handled the phone while charging.
The durability of the port has nothing to do with the protocol. If the USB-C ports on Apple laptops are wearing out prematurely it is an issue with the particular component Apple is sourcing. The data sheets from manufacturers will show the number of cycles they are rated for.
They feel the need to regulate it because Apple isn't using the same port as literally everybody else.
I understand your point. There is nothing we can do about the Lightning cables that already exist, but we could prevent more from being manufactured in the future.
Unless the answer is that Lightning will never be retired (for either USB-C or a theoretical future Lightning 2), the question is just Now or Later?
Waiting to do this change Later means that the problem will get bigger as more & more Lightning cables will be sold. When the change happens, all the existing Lightning cables will gradually be thrown away as the user's Lightning-based devices gradually get replaced.
I can ensure you can literally hold the phone downwards hanging on the USB C cable only and even shake it without the phone falling. And responding to others that say it wears off in their Macs, well it may be a Mac design problem as the aluminum is really soft and can get loose, but I've been using the same Xiaomi with usb C till this summer for 4 years straight and the connector hasn't loosened or wore off at all, and I charge it once daily at least so that's at least 1400 plugs and unplugs.
That's what literally the external metal enclosing of the connector is for, to hold all the forces and prevent it from bending.
I start to think most of the people commenting here really never had a USB C and lived all their lives on lighting and are just parroting around other's fears.
Multiple govt entities seem to be mandating usb-c on the device end, why not on the charging block end?? Right now I have a bunch of different cables done with usb-A and some with usb-c. I want to see the EU mandate that BMW, MB, VW, Stellantis, airbus, etc all install usb-c ports in their vehicles and aircraft, and that all their coffee shops, airports, and power bricks only use usb-c out ports. Let’s be consistent people!
I think that's a good point. I suspect that USB-C is on one end also implies it be on the other going forward but all the existing blocks and vehicles with USB-A are going to be around a long time, so now you have a minimum of two cable types (or adapters). The win is Lightning would no longer be in the picture to add two more combinations in the future.
Remember how easy it was to open an iPhone 4. 2 screws and the back came off like a car hood.
Even if it wasn't "user accessible" but was easy enough for any shop to do in 10 minutes, I'd be happy about that.
Unfortunately, having a waterproof phone has kind of eliminated this possibility, and I'm sure there are $1000s of more dollars saved by the waterproofing than by low capacity batteries after 5 years.
Who transfers files off their iPhone with a cable? Lightning is a exclusively a charging and accessory port.
It gets replaced immediately as the legal text is referring to the USB standard. And the moment the standard changes the law changes immediately
Why do you think nobody uses cable when it’s usb 2 speeds. USB 4 is faster than Wi-Fi and you can charge your phone while you syncing