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India to Crack Down on Pre-Installed Apps Under New Smartphone Security Rules
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A fancy wall paper that you cannot change…! 😂Cannot wait when I buy next iPhone to have empty homescreen with no app icons whatsoever. There is no App Store, settings, phone, messages icons anywhere. Just a fancy wallpaper.
Oh wait! What’s next then? First choose a setting app, then a wallpaper? Or choose between settings apps that only allows you to choose wallpapers?
You’d have to buy the phone in India.Cannot wait when I buy next iPhone to have empty homescreen with no app icons whatsoever. There is no App Store, settings, phone, messages icons anywhere. Just a fancy wallpaper.
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Total freedom to choose between any subscription or free (add payed) phone app for your new iPhone.
The free will listen in on your call so it can serve you with more “relevant” adds. The add might pop up and cover the answer button, when you receive a call. If that’s too inconvenient then there’s always the subscription based version.
Free market forces and full freedom of choice are always best for consumers.
Total freedom to choose between any subscription or free (add payed) phone app for your new iPhone.
The free will listen in on your call so it can serve you with more “relevant” adds. The add might pop up and cover the answer button, when you receive a call. If that’s too inconvenient then there’s always the subscription based version.
Free market forces and full freedom of choice are always best for consumers.
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I agree. If it’s no pre installed apps wouldn’t that mean there’s no phone app to start, no App Store to start. And then what? You download Indias phone app cause they’re the “only one you can trust” with what App Store? Is India’s government going to start an App Store. Seems silly.
Technically even your home screen is an app. I know you probably thought it was a really smart thing to say but you didn’t expect me to be an app developer.
I just don't see the advantage in, say:
- Paying Evernote for note-taking
- Paying Dropbox to backup all my data
- Paying Apple to backup my photos (also stored on external HDD at home and perpetually burned to Blu-ray)
- Paying for a Calendar provider
- Paying for an email app
- Paying a sub for a password storage app
When I can get it all under one roof via Apple or Google or Microsoft. What is the disadvantage? All of my data is also present on my Mac and Time Machine backups. If I had the ability I'd prefer it if my photos backed up a home NAS as soon as I walk through the door and bypass 3rd party servers altogether but I don't. I understand I could get locked out of my account but the way I see it is I want my data to be stored by a company that isn't in danger of going bust any time soon.
What have I done wrong?
They should go after macos, the Application menu has so many Apple apps installed it is useless for launching the programs I have installed. Unlike ios the macOS prevents you from deleting or moving them.
Huh? If anything you just contradicted your own post. I was simply pointing out that there are more important than just those three apps you mentioned
Apple should sell them a blank phone, completely blank, turns on and has a wallpaper, not even an App Store to download what u need. Then when they come begging for an app charge them same price of phone for an option to download App Store. I just don’t get all these “entitled” countries trying to dictate a business. If government is worried about privacy and security, then create your own environment, own phones, own network, and keep it secure. Don’t use an iPhone!
When I said 3 apps I meant apps beside the OS system apps. Settings and App Store are both part of the OS.
Apple should focus on Vietnam and Malaysia for expansion. India will be another China.
I like this law. Dealing with bloat is a pain in the (_!_). Why the hail do some android phones have Facebook and Tiktok preinstalled?😖 Some android bloat can only be removed with root access or connecting to a computer and using adb. Easy debloat is always good in my book. There are plenty of Apple apps I don't have any use for (ie Wallet), but cannot remove from my iPhone.
The law doesn't require the apps not be preinstalled. It only requires that the app be uninstallable. Those who want it gone can have it gone.🥳
The law doesn't require the apps not be preinstalled. It only requires that the app be uninstallable. Those who want it gone can have it gone.🥳
Pain in the ass?? When did you try to get one? With the right documents you could get one in a few minutes with activation.
I am in Indian living in Europe for years, it the same process here as in India.
Those apps are fine as concept of stock apps, but they are not even trying to create the best experience, many need a complete overhaul & or refinement, they have been stagnant for years.
That a complete opposite of what the majority of Apple/iPhone users want. I will hazard a guess that they want simple, out of the box, it just works. Not needing or wanting to be IT people. the same applies to Mac computers.
Choosing apps you need from an install screen is not equivalent of being an IT guy. And if you really think it's going to be so complicated for users, so be it, perhaps if we put some barriers to technology, maybe we will be able to keep single digit IQ people off the internet.
Also have you actually setup an iPhone before? It has many such complex things that may want to call your IT friend Ramesh for assistance.
I don't understand the difference between 1 and 2 in your list. Settings, Phone, App Store, and Messages are mandatory (essential and required). Camera, Photos, Safari, and Messages are all "required" to have a fully functioning phone with basic capabilities upon initial boot. I'd argue Mail as well, but even Apple does not consider is "essential". There are replacements for each of these that may be used alongside or in place of these apps. And these apps may be hidden (removed) from your phone's Home pages.
These stock apps may be deleted from your phone today: Clock, Compass, Find My, Home, Measure, Support, Watch (surprisingly), Voice Memos, Calculator, Contacts, Files (surprisingly), Mail, Contacts, Calendar, Health, Music, Wallet, Apple TV, Stocks, Books, Notes, etc.
Whether you use these apps or one of the third-party alternatives having them on the phone from the start provides basic capabilities of all core functions expected of a phone today.
So, you have the option. What are you going to delete?
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In November. I needed to show some hotel receipt, passport copies, a pass photo (where the heck do you get a pass photo on vacation) and then they told us to come back the next day to pick it up! We were not even in Bangalore the day after anymore. I eventually decided to buy an overpriced esim online
It already is a problem that Apple requires an Apple ID in order to install any apps. On an Android phone you do need an ID and you do not need an app store.
But you also give up any security of your data at the same time. Which is the point of India's stance here.