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India to Crack Down on Pre-Installed Apps Under New Smartphone Security Rules
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Our three apps are dialer, messages, and browser…and an App Store… Our four…no…Settings… Amongst our apps… Amongst our features…are such apps as dialer, messages… I'll come in again.
Create a folder and drag the apps you do not want into it. You will never have to do it again no matter how many times you update or change your phone.
Manufacturers will comply. Looks like with the various laws in multiple countries, many changes will be coming to iOS.
Maybe a little poorly exlained.
Essential apps are there to enable the phone to function, required are there really to get you to function. For example the App Store is essential as without it you can't download other apps.
As you said above, things like Safari, Mail etc are required.
Others of course are purely optional.
That's a pretty big list of 'deletables', I'd not checked for a while. But I'd wager a simple page on the App Store at the last step after spcefiying hardware with those three sections would be easily doable and great. They could even have the default option as 'Select All'.
They may not be experts in technology.
But over the years technology companies have proven they cannot be trusted to behave in a reasonable and responsible manner.
You'd think but their 'Pro' phones need a de-motion and only seem different by withholding features you can find on Android devices at half the price that they know entrenched customers will never even consider.
I see your point, politicians have a golden track record of perfection. They never push an agenda based on personal gain, favors, or blind ignorance. They can free us from the oppression of having a messaging app installed by default.
Regulation to this degree is insanely idiotic, and as soon as you’ve regulated it beyond the limits of ridiculousness, you will be complaining that the government is overreaching and they shouldn’t be regulating how phones are made. It will go full circle.
Maybe worry about our bigger problems as a society that need serious answers instead of if flappy birds is installed on a phone by default.
That's the Apple support document about which apps you can delete since iOS 14:
support.apple.com
That sound like a lot of bloatware. If people like those apps, they could still install them, but they should not come preinstalled, as that makes it much harder for other developers to compete. For that reason Microsoft had to pay a huge fine, when it preinstalled a browser called "Internet Explorer" (your parents might still know it).
What really made me angry was when I learned that the global versions of Xiaomi phones came with a lot of Facebook apps preinstalled plus a background app that immediately reinstalled those apps once you deleted them. Facebook had paid Xiaomi a lot of money to make it very hard for consumers to get rid of the Facebook app and the Facebook Messenger app. Somehow I have managed to get rid of those apps anyway. Not Xiaomi and Meta still do that, but I think the EU should make paid bloatware completely illegal. I feel betrayed if I learn that the company that built my notebook or smartphone received a lot of money to spam my device with software that I did not ask for.
Apple may not install third party bloatware, but they have or at least had a very dirty deal with Google. If you pay a lot of money for your iPhone, Apple should not receive any money for choosing the standard search engine for you.
Delete built-in Apple apps from your iPhone, iPad, or Apple Watch - Apple Support
With iOS 14 or later, iPadOS, and watchOS 9.4 or later, you can delete some built-in Apple apps from your iPhone, iPad, or Apple Watch.
That sound like a lot of bloatware. If people like those apps, they could still install them, but they should not come preinstalled, as that makes it much harder for other developers to compete. For that reason Microsoft had to pay a huge fine, when it preinstalled a browser called "Internet Explorer" (your parents might still know it).
What really made me angry was when I learned that the global versions of Xiaomi phones came with a lot of Facebook apps preinstalled plus a background app that immediately reinstalled those apps once you deleted them. Facebook had paid Xiaomi a lot of money to make it very hard for consumers to get rid of the Facebook app and the Facebook Messenger app. Somehow I have managed to get rid of those apps anyway. Not Xiaomi and Meta still do that, but I think the EU should make paid bloatware completely illegal. I feel betrayed if I learn that the company that built my notebook or smartphone received a lot of money to spam my device with software that I did not ask for.
Apple may not install third party bloatware, but they have or at least had a very dirty deal with Google. If you pay a lot of money for your iPhone, Apple should not receive any money for choosing the standard search engine for you.
Wow, you funny....I have set up and purchased a new iPhone every year since they came out. You call them complex things ? Wow "keep single digit IQ people off the internet" "IT friend Ramesh" pretty biased are we.
You started the humour by saying that choosing apps to install from the setup screen would require advanced knowledge of Information Technology. Also the apps could be a part of the OS setup, so they won't need to be downloaded from the internet.
Not advanced....just inconvenient to the masses that jut want to activate and go, giving them just what they need/always had out of the box.
Masses just called me on the other line, they want their Headphone Jack and Charging Brick back.. also there was some chatter about a uniform charging port across Apple devices.
It wasn't for that reason. If you do want to draw parallels then at least do it accurately. Microsoft wasn't fined because it preinstalled Internet Explorer. The issue was the abuse of monopoly power, and restrictions in licencing with OEM manufacturers. It wasn't the preinstalled IE per-se. About a decade later there was another issue, but again that was not specifically due to preinstalling it was about the lack of equal promotion. A very important distinction.That's the Apple support document about which apps you can delete since iOS 14:
Delete built-in Apple apps from your iPhone, iPad, or Apple Watch - Apple Support
With iOS 14 or later, iPadOS, and watchOS 9.4 or later, you can delete some built-in Apple apps from your iPhone, iPad, or Apple Watch.
That sound like a lot of bloatware. If people like those apps, they could still install them, but they should not come preinstalled, as that makes it much harder for other developers to compete. For that reason Microsoft had to pay a huge fine, when it preinstalled a browser called "Internet Explorer" (your parents might still know it).
It's not bloatware. Most of the preinstalled apps are useful. Are you actually arguing that Microsoft shouldn't preinstall Notepad because developers will have a harder for developers of text editing applications to compete? Apple may have trimmed down preinstalled apps over time, but what's there is actually useful for the most part. Why would I want to install them after the fact? I don't.That's the Apple support document about which apps you can delete since iOS 14:
Delete built-in Apple apps from your iPhone, iPad, or Apple Watch - Apple Support
With iOS 14 or later, iPadOS, and watchOS 9.4 or later, you can delete some built-in Apple apps from your iPhone, iPad, or Apple Watch.
That sound like a lot of bloatware. If people like those apps, they could still install them, but they should not come preinstalled, as that makes it much harder for other developers to compete. For that reason Microsoft had to pay a huge fine, when it preinstalled a browser called "Internet Explorer" (your parents might still know it).
Yes. The classical definition of bloatware.
No they don't.
It's a non-issue as long as it can be changed.
Yea, well the masses can be dinosaurs.....funny how people buy the latest new iDevice each year to have the latest tech and then complain when old tech is taken away.....why tf would anybody want to have a wire? And USB-C sucks as far as durability, if you break it, the one whole mama board need to be replaced. With Lightning, I have seen people at work break off the plug....just poke out the piece like a broken key and move on..... My work MBP has 3 out of 4 USB-C connectors intermittent because of plugging and unplugging to go to meetings and just get work done.....Might need to request a new full blown MBP 14"...64GB RAM 2TB SSD
We just received the 6 MacPro's BTO and 8 16" MBP BTO full boat.....
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So masses can decide about the software but have a trouble zeroing in on the hardware?Yea, well the masses can be dinosaurs.....funny how people buy the latest new iDevice each year to have the latest tech and then complain when old tech is taken away.....why tf would anybody want to have a wire? And USB-C sucks as far as durability, if you break it, the one whole mama board need to be replaced. With Lightning, I have seen people at work break off the plug....just poke out the piece like a broken key and move on..... My work MBP has 3 out of 4 USB-C connectors intermittent because of plugging and unplugging to go to meetings and just get work done.....Might need to request a new full blown MBP 14"...64GB RAM 2TB SSD
But I would still have to be presented with 3+ options for browser. And 3+ for calendar, mail, notes etc.
And unless developers can live off thin air or are altruistic the 3rd party options would not be free. Either they will be bloated with adds, sell your data, be subscription based etc…
So now you have to investigate and decide what way of paying these developers suits you the best.
Or you can take the “free”, stock apps from Apple (you already paid for these anyway).
So next those 3rd party developers would demand that Apple is not allowed to offer stock apps for free.
Stop whining. If developers want to make a living they have to invent something that’s so brilliant that Apple would either buy it for a gazillion dollars or that people would pay for it, despite Apple offering a stock version for free.
It’s funny how they think that by uninstalling apps they can stop phone manufacturers from spying on you.
I like the free apps that Apple creates/supplies. They work well and seamlessly across iCloud And I will trust the code better than something from somebody like DZFD 🤣
The bit not made clear in the MR article is the part where the government wants to be able to monitor OS updates before they are released. In a country where it’s a known fact the government has used Pegasus malware to illegally tap and monitor opposition MPs, liberals and anyone else it considers a ‘security threat’ via their phones, this bs about pre-installed apps is a load of eyewash.
The real agenda will be now we want you to preinstall our app on every device…our app that will ensure we can monitor everyone and ensure you don’t release OS updates that make our spyware redundant. You can’t trust this government as far as you can throw them.
The real agenda will be now we want you to preinstall our app on every device…our app that will ensure we can monitor everyone and ensure you don’t release OS updates that make our spyware redundant. You can’t trust this government as far as you can throw them.