Boot the NEW machine into target disc mode, then boot the old machine off the new machines hard drive and see if it works.
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Inertial scrolling on 2009 MBP: any hack?
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Boot the NEW machine into target disc mode, then boot the old machine off the new machines hard drive and see if it works.
It's gonna be kind of hard for me to do that. I'll need a 13,000 kilometre Firewire cable first. My dad and his new 13" MacBook Pro are in Tennessee, while my old MBP and I are in New Zealand.
Apple geniuses say update needed
Last week I tried this scrolling feature on current 2010 13' MBP's at two different Apple stores and it would not work on any 13" model on display.
After the geniuses checked it out for nearly 30 minutes they concluded that an update would cure the problem so the 13" models would have the feature of the 15"and 17" on display.
What that update is is not answered yet. It's a nice feature I would like to have on my less than 2 month old 13" MBP.
Hopefully someone will figure it out soon for those like me who want it too!
Last week I tried this scrolling feature on current 2010 13' MBP's at two different Apple stores and it would not work on any 13" model on display.
After the geniuses checked it out for nearly 30 minutes they concluded that an update would cure the problem so the 13" models would have the feature of the 15"and 17" on display.
What that update is is not answered yet. It's a nice feature I would like to have on my less than 2 month old 13" MBP.
Hopefully someone will figure it out soon for those like me who want it too!
Thats weird I have Inertial scrolling on my Macbook Pro (see sig) and its awesome!
I would like to see it too, I have the Smart Scroll App in demo mode, which still works but tells me every 1000 clicks or something that i should buy it, (which isn't so bad) but the way it works is not great, it doesn't work at all unless i disable it to be able to scroll in the Safari Reader and other stuff, i hope we will get it soon since they'res almost no way back from it 
Now that 10.6.4 is out, and there is no momentum scrolling, will this "hack" work? I'm really exited lol
10.6.4 does not enable inertial scrolling on older macbooks it seems.. Guess I have to resort to either
SmartScroll or AveScroller.
SmartScroll or AveScroller.
I have cloned the HD of a new 2010 Macbook Pro i5 on a USB drive and booted with my late 2008 unibody macbook Pro. There's NO inertial scrolling.
So there's more to it than only .kext files to make it work with 'older' uMBP's
So there's more to it than only .kext files to make it work with 'older' uMBP's
Could anyone post trackpad hardware IDs from MBP 2010?
That could help.
See "System Profiler" app, USB section, "Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad".
My MBP 2009 says:
Product ID: 0x0236
Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Inc.)
Version: 0.81
Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
Location ID: 0x04600000
If newer model have different IDs we could probably spoof or replace them.
That could help.
See "System Profiler" app, USB section, "Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad".
My MBP 2009 says:
Product ID: 0x0236
Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Inc.)
Version: 0.81
Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
Location ID: 0x04600000
If newer model have different IDs we could probably spoof or replace them.
Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad:
Product ID: 0x0237
Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Inc.)
Version: 0.90
Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
Location ID: 0x06300000
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): 40
13" Early 2010, with inertial scrolling
That was fast.
Anyway there's a tiny piece of code in trackpad pref pane which checks if momentum scroll is available:
-(BOOL)[GesturePadController buildinMomentumScrollAvailable]
I guess posting disassembly would be violating something. I've used "otx" app
I'm not that familiar with asm but I'll dig a little further.
Anyway there's a tiny piece of code in trackpad pref pane which checks if momentum scroll is available:
-(BOOL)[GesturePadController buildinMomentumScrollAvailable]
I guess posting disassembly would be violating something. I've used "otx" app
I'm not that familiar with asm but I'll dig a little further.
remember...
myself and someone else on these forums tried the 13" 2010 MBP's at two different Apple stores where they were not scrolling with the new feature.
After 30 minutes of deliberation the genius's consensus was that future "updates" would enable the momentum scroll feature like the new 15" and 17" models on display.
Hope this sheds some additional light on this!
myself and someone else on these forums tried the 13" 2010 MBP's at two different Apple stores where they were not scrolling with the new feature.
After 30 minutes of deliberation the genius's consensus was that future "updates" would enable the momentum scroll feature like the new 15" and 17" models on display.
Hope this sheds some additional light on this!
That was fast.
Anyway there's a tiny piece of code in trackpad pref pane which checks if momentum scroll is available:
-(BOOL)[GesturePadController buildinMomentumScrollAvailable]
I guess posting disassembly would be violating something. I've used "otx" app
I'm not that familiar with asm but I'll dig a little further.
I'm pretty sure there is a list of supported models which could be modified...
But I have no helpful knowledge on that subject, sorry
Trackpads seem to be the same in 2009 and 2010 models. Different product IDs are for different keyboard layouts: WSTrackpadISO3 (0x0237) and WSTrackpadANSI3 (0x0236).
The only other thing I could find while digging the preference pane:
-(BOOL)[GesturePadController _isServiceAvailable:] this seems to define availability of each feature check box in the preference pane interface (e.g. (BOOL)mBuildinMomentumScrollAvailable).
And it seems to rely on these functions:
_IOServiceMatching
_CFDictionaryCreate
_IOMasterPort
_IOServiceGetMatchingService
For some reason I was not able to trace _isServiceAvailable function using dtrace. And also I have no idea how to track values of arguments passed to those functions.
The only other thing I could find while digging the preference pane:
-(BOOL)[GesturePadController _isServiceAvailable:] this seems to define availability of each feature check box in the preference pane interface (e.g. (BOOL)mBuildinMomentumScrollAvailable).
And it seems to rely on these functions:
_IOServiceMatching
_CFDictionaryCreate
_IOMasterPort
_IOServiceGetMatchingService
For some reason I was not able to trace _isServiceAvailable function using dtrace. And also I have no idea how to track values of arguments passed to those functions.
I asked in my local Apple store yesterday, if my MBP 17 that I bought about one month before the new models came out could be made to have inertia scrolling, and was told that the hardware is the issue and inertia scrolling would not work on the earlier models.
This won't work, as i mentioned earlier, I cloned a 2010 Macbook Pro HD and booted up with older uMBP model and there's no inertial scrolling.A different thread mentions it may have the different files necessary to enable it. Any ideas/suggestions
So i installed smartscroll and it works the same.
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