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I am sure Apple will lower the price (hopefully..ha). Remember their G4 laptops/desktop back then? It was cheaper than intel and I think it's coming back.
Example:
G4 17" powerbook (high end) - $2,499
Macbook Pro 17" (high end) - $2,799
New Macbook Pro 17" (high end) - $2,499
I'm a little worried that a netbook would be too much of a tweener like a headless iMac. Although many Apple fans would consider it a nice fill of a gap, I suppose Mr. Jobs doesn't feel the same way. I think that a low target price might keep them out of both the headless iMac and netbook realm at least for the time being. However, making a new device just expanding the size of the touch to about the size of one of those steno notebooks to make it great for all kinds of stuff (iSight for vid chat/camera, reader capabilities, gaming) would be really awesome.
huh?
i'm not saying some random PC manufacturer will intro a low cost notebook next month, i'm saying apple will intro an low(er) cost laptop mid Oct alongside the Pros. curious if they're going to keep the 3 product lines (macbook, pro, air) or somehow clean it up.
I have a Wii and a PS3 -- I don't need no stinkin' gaming PCDoes it run Crysis? I bet not
yay, let's crank up the ol' apple subnotebook rumor mill again!!! it's been a while. dust off the gears and break out the WD40, this is always a good ride . . .
It'd have to be a more closed device more like the iPods then a full blown computer. They're going to stick with Intel and Atom.
I haven't run into the "requirement" of XP Professional for software.
Definitely something to take into consideration.
XP is fine for netbooks while providing full application compatibility. You don't have to worry about losing your current software with a "limited" operating system.
MBA is far from ultraportable there are thinner and lighter notebooks I find it to be heavy for the ultraportable market. They need to fix it or nix it before they move on to something else.
Apple did sell netbook. And if history repeats itself the netbook they are planning will run iPhone OS and double as a tablet. I know I sound like a broken record but I think it would be best for a 3rd party company came out with companion for the touch/phone like the redfly.
Apple did sell netbook. And if history repeats itself the netbook they are planning will run iPhone OS and double as a tablet. I know I sound like a broken record but I think it would be best for a 3rd party company came out with companion for the touch/phone like the redfly.
Who needs Apple sub-notebooks?!?!?
Going through the list of top-selling Notebook computers at Amazon, (here) the top 20 selling Notebook computers are all sub-$500 computers, barring the MSI Wind at $530 and the Apple ones.
The interesting point to note is that Apple has managed to gain four spots in the top 20 - all of their MacBooks, and a MacBook Pro as well. Considering the price tags of the other Notebook computers around, I think this is a feat to be proud of. For Apple, and for us, Apple fans.
Again, who needs an Apple sub-notebook? Do we really want the other sub-Notebook computers to feel so bad? Let them be.
Going through the list of top-selling Notebook computers at Amazon, (here) the top 20 selling Notebook computers are all sub-$500 computers, barring the MSI Wind at $530 and the Apple ones.
The interesting point to note is that Apple has managed to gain four spots in the top 20 - all of their MacBooks, and a MacBook Pro as well. Considering the price tags of the other Notebook computers around, I think this is a feat to be proud of. For Apple, and for us, Apple fans.
Again, who needs an Apple sub-notebook? Do we really want the other sub-Notebook computers to feel so bad? Let them be.
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apple knows best
I know what's best for me.
What's XPs footprint versus Leopard ?
I'd much prefer an Apple sub notebook rather than a Netbook.
I'm not interested in my Data being in the "cloud" (perhaps on some server in China or India).
I like to be in full control of my data and back ups. Wasn't this why dumb terminals were so hated in the 70's and 80's?
I'm not interested in my Data being in the "cloud" (perhaps on some server in China or India).
I like to be in full control of my data and back ups. Wasn't this why dumb terminals were so hated in the 70's and 80's?
With intel releasing a dual core atom, apple could smoke the competition with a small sub notebook with a 8 or 10 inch screen. Would buy it in a heart beat.
Netbooks have nothing to do with your data in the "cloud" and they are far from dumb terminals.
In no small part, however, it's also due to Apple's small product line.
HP, Sony and the others have many more models, which dilutes the sales rank of any particular SKU.
XP on the eeePC lives on a 4 GB SSD, including 1 GB for the hibernation file. A second 8 GB SSD is for user's home directories and other data.
The eeePC also has an SDHC slot, so you can add a 32GB SD card.
PowerBook Duo? Where are u?
Most people here have been using Macs for a couple of years... My first Mac came in 1988. I have seen the brand grow from slow and exclusive RAM and SCSI-only HD's to disastrous Type 11 errors to fully equipped AV 8500's and G3's. Apple gave us a more broad choice of computers 10 years ago. Sub Notebooks, Newton, Performas, PowerMacs, PowerBooks in many different sizes, and all the machines came with free video input and output jacks, audio, CD, etc... At a price, though.
Now the choice is more limited and Apple is again becoming expensive. PC's rule because they are cheap, not because they are better. IF u know a guy that puts a PC together from cheap parts u can have something faster than a Mac Pro for 1/3 the price.
Apple needs to again adjust itself to the times and give us cheap Macs that are between an iPhone and a MacBook. I don't own a laptop cause they are still too heavy and big to carry. A 9" MiniBook with WiFi would be a great entry level Mac OS X experience for, say, $500.
Last year they got away with overcharging $500 for the iPhone which is nice, but it can't replace a laptop with full MacOSX.
PC's are always going to rule cause they understand that cheapness concept. Amazon proves that, and the deteriorating economy makes even $1000 unaffordable for many.
Most people here have been using Macs for a couple of years... My first Mac came in 1988. I have seen the brand grow from slow and exclusive RAM and SCSI-only HD's to disastrous Type 11 errors
to fully equipped AV 8500's and G3's. Apple gave us a more broad choice of computers 10 years ago. Sub Notebooks, Newton, Performas, PowerMacs, PowerBooks in many different sizes, and all the machines came with free video input and output jacks, audio, CD, etc... At a price, though. Now the choice is more limited and Apple is again becoming expensive. PC's rule because they are cheap, not because they are better. IF u know a guy that puts a PC together from cheap parts u can have something faster than a Mac Pro for 1/3 the price.
Apple needs to again adjust itself to the times and give us cheap Macs that are between an iPhone and a MacBook. I don't own a laptop cause they are still too heavy and big to carry. A 9" MiniBook with WiFi would be a great entry level Mac OS X experience for, say, $500.
Last year they got away with overcharging $500 for the iPhone which is nice, but it can't replace a laptop with full MacOSX.
PC's are always going to rule cause they understand that cheapness concept. Amazon proves that, and the deteriorating economy makes even $1000 unaffordable for many.
If Apple enters this market, it would likely be the new "eMac" aimed at junior and high school students and running trimmed-down versions of iWorks and iLife.
This class of machine just does not have the power to be a general-purpose machine, to say nothing of a corporate unit. People carp about how lame the MacBook Air is, but it wails on these things in terms of performance.
If Apple could do it for around $599/$699 it would likely prove popular with parents.
This class of machine just does not have the power to be a general-purpose machine, to say nothing of a corporate unit. People carp about how lame the MacBook Air is, but it wails on these things in terms of performance.
If Apple could do it for around $599/$699 it would likely prove popular with parents.
I think the point is only size and portability. For almost the same price ($400-550) you can get core 2 duo with 4GB DDR2, 15.4", HD 2600 with 512MB GDDR3, 250GB SATA. Even runs OSX very well.
What makes you think that lower price and much lower power consumption is pointless? The PC makers don't use Atom because it is better than ARM, they use it because they don't have a decent operating system to run on ARM. Apple _has_ that operating system, so why not take full advantage of it? So developers would have to recompile their application. Well, tough. Didn't stop any iPhone developers, did it?
With the comments about the foot print of Leopard and the speed issues. I wonder if this is perhaps one of the reasons behind Snow Leopard.
Perhaps we will have to wait until Snow Leopard is released before we see apple release a netbook.
Perhaps we will have to wait until Snow Leopard is released before we see apple release a netbook.
It is slow on Atom "as-is" and as a "hack"
I am sure Apple can take care of the slowness
I can see it now: a Flash-based $300 ol'-fashioned toilet-seat iBook with MacWrite in ROM and ...
Use Tiger instead.
Oh wait... Not to mention it's hacked onto the hardware.
This is what I suspect. Snow Leopard is going to be the more scalable version of all of Leopards features. Not to mention cutting out some of the OS bloat.