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Inside Apple's New MacBook Pro

peter2 said:
- express card slot with 13" and 15" inch models (put an express card SD reader in it, if you wish to use that. If you don't wish that, put in something else you need - a hard drive, 3G modem, ...)
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You have no idea what this means.

To me, because I have a 15" Late 2008 MacBook Pro, my specs, retailed for around 2,100. Now, this has an ExpressCard slot.

When my MacBook Pro fails 3 times, due to hardware failures, I'm going to get a MacBook Pro 17" as a replacement.

Reason? The 15"s don't have an ExpressCard slot. Therefore I can't use it. Therefore, I must get a 17" as a replacement. Win.
 
Eidorian said:
You are better off getting it stateside. You can't change the specifications of refurbished hardware. You can get lucky and get better hardware than what was listed. (More RAM, larger hard drive)
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No, I am not. If I buy the exact same computer in the states on the Apple Site and someone can bring it to me for free, I will spend 700 dollars less. In every country outside the USA Apple products are more expensive. This is an up-price and most of all the Mexican fees, which I wouldn't pay... between 3700 and 3000 dollars there is a huge difference...
 
fingernagel said:
No, I am not. If I buy the exact same computer in the states on the Apple Site and someone can bring it to me for free, I will spend 700 dollars less. In every country outside the USA Apple products are more expensive. This is an up-price and most of all the Mexican fees, which I wouldn't pay... between 3700 and 3000 dollars there is a huge difference...
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Stateside is slang for the United States.

I understand the mark up of Apple products among others outside of the United States.
 
apple store discount cupons for new macbook pro

Hello, any apple store discount cupons available over there or the web? :S
I've just bought 2 ipads and some accesories and didn't received any cupons :(:mad::(:eek:
 
Salacion said:
This update SUCKS! Once again Apple, you've failed us all. You think we want to buy something that's behind in hardware and ahead in price? No way. You should give us 1TB Hard Drive, 6Gb Ram, 10 Hour Battery, Quad Core i7, 1080p resolution, Bluray, USB3 and EVERYTHING ELSE OTHER COMPANIES OFFER FOR LESS. Screw Apple. Thats it. I'm buying a Dell.

Parody is fun.
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Been apple my whole life, but agree with this. I've been making my PowerPC iMac last (512 mb of ram) for over 5 years hoping that when I do finally pull the trigger, I can do it right after an update and have the latest and greatest. This was going to be the update... Alas, neither the latest or the greatest. I can wait until WWDC, but if nothing new comes out then, I will finally leave.
Particularly shocked at no USB3, apple is usually all over connections (early- and over-use of firewire 400 much?)
 
Hey guys, I know there was a lot of debate about the price vs. what your getting but I just bought the MBP 15 for $1840 w/tax for the 2.53GHz i5...Good Deal?
 
Salacion said:
This update SUCKS! Once again Apple, you've failed us all. You think we want to buy something that's behind in hardware and ahead in price? No way. You should give us 1TB Hard Drive, 6Gb Ram, 10 Hour Battery, Quad Core i7, 1080p resolution, Bluray, USB3 and EVERYTHING ELSE OTHER COMPANIES OFFER FOR LESS. Screw Apple. Thats it. I'm buying a Dell.

Parody is fun.
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Please post a link to the Dell you plan on purchasing.

I was looking on Dell's site but had a hard time finding any of their laptops with i series processors.

I looked at Lenovo and their i series laptops had a 4 week wait time.

Neither seems to make a 13" screen laptop with similar specs or price as the 13" MBP. The E4300 is pretty similar. Lenovo had an IdeaPad that was way under-specced, then only had 12" screens with no optical drive or 14" screens that were overall bigger and had 16x9 resolutions that I expect on a netbook (1366x768 on a 14" screen? I may actually find that a bit insulting.)

I want 1440x900 on the 13" MBP real bad! How awesome would that be? But, if you get that even on a 14" screen you have to pay extra with most vendors, if they offer it. But then you can get 1920x1200 on a 15.4"! Dang that is tiny, but useful. Think about that: more pixels than a 60" TV in 15.4"! Whoa.

Anyway, buy what you like folks and what works for you. Quit the name calling and the flaming. Focus on something that might actually affect life: like the homeless person on the street corner or any of the millions of victims of earthquakes in the past few months. Or teach someone how to use a computer.

A little perspective...
 
phrurx said:
Hey guys, I know there was a lot of debate about the price vs. what your getting but I just bought the MBP 15 for $1840 w/tax for the 2.53GHz i5...Good Deal?
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If it does the tasks you need it to in a manner that is acceptable to you and you are happy with it?

Great deal.

It's all relative. Enjoy the computer and don't look back. It's tech: it will be obsolete next week. That's just the way it rolls.
Use it, enjoy it, and smile.

I would love a new 13" MBP but my 2.2 Santa Rosa BlackBook is too fast still to justify needing a new computer (and I run Win 7 virtualized 100% of the time). The girlfriend's 12" G4 PB, however, is running a bit slow...:D
 
Where is a 15 inch i3?

ddTaylor said:
I am sorry, this round of updates is nothing but a slap in the face to Apple users. Apple is to damned busy working on iPhone this and iPad that to worry about actual COMPUTER users. I was given a Dell for work - I am by no means a fan of Dell and I would rather use no computer at all than a Windows notebook, with that said the Dell offer full 1080P display on a 15.6" matte screen (or glossy, your choice - I like matte), a 500GB HD, HDMI out and much, much more - for only $1099! That was mid-last year when I ordered it! The new version of this exact computer has the new i5 processor and a new 6 or 8-cell battery for 6-9-hours of battery life - complete with full 1080P output and HDMI out for LESS that last years model! Is it as smooth or integrated as Apple? No - but the hardware kicks ass all over the place and it costs less. No full HD out? No HDMI? No i5 or i7 in the 13" MBP? The 13" is far from a PRO model when they cripple it and basically charge you the same for a bit more RAM and a larger HD - in comparison to other vendors this would be panned left and right as being behind the times and egregiously over-priced. I am disappointed in Apple over this update - flame away if you would like
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I love Apple stuff. I mean obsessively. But...

I'm willing to pay a few hundred more for and Apple, but not almost double. Shoot, that Dell has bluray too! What gives. Where is the Apple laptop with a 15 inch display and slower i3 internals? Most programs can't even enjoy all that speed but a user sure could enjoy a larger display.

Usually, once you spec out a PC laptop it gets within a few hundred dolors of the comparable Apple laptop. But this time the PC out-specs it for cheaper. A Dell Studio 15 with i5, 4GB RAM, 500GB 7200 RPM HD, with the maxed out video card(1GB RAM), 1080p display, and backlit keyboard. $1284. Apple could at least make the 500GB 7200 RPM drive standard in the 15. But no Apple is charging $2049. Now you get a thinner case and slightly better display (hard to tell tho). Does that really cost $768. With $768 I could buy a 13" Dell laptop i3 as well.

I would never buy a PC laptop, but it's getting harder. The 15" MBP should have started at $1599 w/500GB HD (they could even get cheap and do the 4200RPM and upgrade to 7200 RPM for $50) ANd I wont even ask for bluray. Uhg! Sorry to rant on but jeez...
 
wovel said:
eSata would be nice on iMacs and Minis, I am not sure it is the best solution for a laptop, at least last time I checked hot pluggable power over eSata support was fairly limited.
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The main advantage of eSATA is not for portable drives (even though there are non-standard combo eSATA/USB2.0 ports that can route the USB power to the eSATA device).

eSATA's advantage is that it gives you a 3 Gbps (375 MB/s) link to up to five disk drives (with port multiplier support). Some of those 5 drives could be RAID arrays hiding behind one eSATA port.

Video/Audio/Photo professionals on the road would love to have several hundreds of megabytes per second to terabytes of storage. Most of them are at a wall socket when they need the terabytes.

Many home/office users would love to be able to plug into a 10 TB disk when "docked".

Plus, I don't know of any "bus power" multi-terabyte device made that can be powered from USB or most 1394 ports.

The inability of eSATA to supply bus power to disk drives isn't important for most of the use cases for eSATA.
 
I have my credit card in hand, ready to order. 2 things keeping me:
Besides browsing, documents, email, messengers, tunes, pictures etc, I make music, mainly on logic and I will be getting into Ableton Live. I'll also be getting into making short films but very amateur so ill stick to iMovie , and get Final Cut somewhere along the line. so here are my doubts

1) i5 (2.53) vs 17 (2.66) based on what i do/might get into in the future.

2) High Resolution: I have netflix, and do watch a lot of movies (streaming/dvd), but i dont want to get my computer and realize its way too small and be squinting all the time , advice?

thanks in advance
 
mrscrouge said:
I have my credit card in hand, ready to order. 2 things keeping me:
Besides browsing, documents, email, messengers, tunes, pictures etc, I make music, mainly on logic and I will be getting into Ableton Live. I'll also be getting into making short films but very amateur so ill stick to iMovie , and get Final Cut somewhere along the line. so here are my doubts

1) i5 (2.53) vs 17 (2.66) based on what i do/might get into in the future.

2) High Resolution: I have netflix, and do watch a lot of movies (streaming/dvd), but i dont want to get my computer and realize its way too small and be squinting all the time , advice?

thanks in advance
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Based on all the software you plan on buying, I would tell you to save your money for that. But we don't know your current computing power either, so…

Your Netflix will unfortunately be a bit smaller on your screen on a High Resolution display. You can always full-screen it. Depends on if the screen real estate is worth the trade-off to you.
 
wallaby said:
Based on all the software you plan on buying, I would tell you to save your money for that. But we don't know your current computing power either, so…

Your Netflix will unfortunately be a bit smaller on your screen on a High Resolution display. You can always full-screen it. Depends on if the screen real estate is worth the trade-off to you.
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Yeah i always fullscreen netflix, and logic as well. Also software is not a problem moneywise.

I really dont mind spending the extra $ on the i7 processor, just want to make sure Im using the extra power.
 
inertial scrolling

I think I'm the only one that doesn't want inertial scrolling XD I like the precision of my trackpad without it. But, whatever it's not like that really would effect my decision.
 
For those who are complaining think of it this way.

You buy an Apple because it is a good software company--who happens to make very good hardware and have good support.

I don't need everything that other computer companies offer. I get what I need, and if my Mac serves me well, and causes no major headache for a luddite like me, I am happy.

If you to avoid regret and agony, stop making up comparison charts, and micromanaging your purchases.
 
I'm sure there are a few people out there who want the free scrolling feature in the trackpads, but I can live without it.
 
Sorry for asking this here... but what's the difference between a normal screen and the hi-res screen ? it is worth the extra $400 ?
 
Becko said:
Sorry for asking this here... but what's the difference between a normal screen and the hi-res screen ? it is worth the extra $400 ?
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It's not $400, it's only $100 more. If you also want matte screen it's $50 extra.
 
I want a new one!!! :(

Mainly for the battery. That'd be INCREDIBLE to get 10 hours out of my Macbook! 5 is nice right now, but WOW!

Also, and i5 would be nice. :)
 
I can see why people with existing C2D MBP's are not happy with this refresh. But as a first time buyer of the product I am happy with what I have purchased.

I don't see this as old technology, I see it as proven technology that works how it is supposed to. Reliability is more important to me than the latest "whizz bang" windows PC for 1/2 the price that is going to fail on me after 18 months (or considerably sooner). In the past I have typically upgraded my Windows based laptops every 18 months, I am hoping that my MBP will last me considerably longer than that.

Back to the C2D owners, there is nothing wrong with your machines and this probably is not the refresh you need. Your good for at least another 12 months. If you want an overheating quad core, with poor battery life that desperately, then go buy a Windows 7 machine.
 
Any in depth benchmarks?

After all this months of patient wait for these new mbp, I've come across this new dilemma: Shall I buy the 15" i5 2.4Ghz, or the 2.53Ghz version. i7 processors are way too far from what my pocket could afford without becoming a supermassive black hole.
I know that the 2.53Ghz is 200€ more expensive, and comes with the very same GPU, though if the benchmark results would show an impressive difference (something I doubt) might go for the 2.53Ghz version.

So... does anybody knows where can I find some early in depth benchmarks?

(Pardon my english).
 
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