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Apple is like someone straight of Star Wars.
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It's almost as if one company shouldn't have this much control over digital commerce.

So you disagree with "There's nothing 'digital' about these experiences no matter how much the definition is contorted." ?
 
Meditation doesn't make you not have feelings, it just helps you recognize them.

Meditation classes are frequently donation-based as to allow people without much income to attend.

So then the tip should go to them and not doctors!
 
Let's leave aside, for now, the Apple fee.

1) This guy trying to argue that what he's providing is not digital content is ridiculous. Comparing what his teachers do to my renting my homes on Airbnb is silly. I wanted to understand, so I downloaded the app and spent some time perusing. Most teachers are delivering pre-recorded video and audio messages. Just like a digital song or a digital movie. Exactly zero difference. And then, we get to "live events." I see this as no different than pre-recorded. This is digital content delivered directly through the app.

2) The App charges $60/year. Is that fee shared with his teachers? I didn't see anything to suggest that.

3) Tips? This is direct income: I went to read his Linkedin post, and in the comments were many teachers supporting him. The problem was, they were all saying "this is how I make my income!" So, tips? I think Insight Timer is using the idea of "tips" to get around Apple Fees. But these are the primary way the app is set up to remunerate teachers. You don't have to buy courses. I think this is just being too clever by half.

So...imagine that you had to buy a course for $9.99. It's pre-recorded and is clearly digital content. Of course you'd pay the fee to Apple. Why not? If you owned a Yoga Studio, you are highly limited by space, and you have to pay rent, utilities, employees, etc. Here, because it's a digital product, you can reach millions of customer all at once. If only I could do the same with my Airbnb.

But this is the point, he's trying to use "tips" to get around paying the fee to Apple.

And he's most definitely delivering digital content (you know, the kind that can be duplicated to millions and millions of customers all at the same time).
 
If the instructors were e.g. AI generated characters who deliver instructions, the class/workshop would be digital content. We are talking about humans creating a service. That service is digitally delivered but the service itself is definitely NOT digital content. Apple obviously allowed it for a while and could easily continue to allow it because the content is clearly ANALOG.

So what about music or movies?
Or live music being transmitted to an iPhone?

If you can consume it on the iPhone, it's digital content.
 
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Imagine you're a yoga teacher. You go to your local yoga studio and ask if you can use their space to give classes. They say "sure, we just take a 30% cut of your fees."

BUT, you say, I don't charge fees. I just take tips instead!

OK, they say, then we'll take 30% of your tips.

How dare you! you say. They're tips!

Well, you're trying to use our facility for free!

I'm not charging any money to my students! I only take tips!

....and on and on.
 
You go to your local yoga studio and ask if you can use their space to give classes.
Are these Yoga and meditation classes recorded in studios/rooms/facilities rented or owned by Apple?
Does Apple host the content and streaming servers to provide these pre-recorded or live classes?

No? 👉 Back to square one in coming up with a (new) analogy.
 
Welcome to the material world, Insight Timer!
Or as Elvis Costello put it, "I know it don't thrill ya, I hope it don't kill ya, welcome to the working week…"
Namaste
 
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Are these Yoga and meditation classes recorded in studios/rooms/facilities rented or owned by Apple?
Does Apple host the content and streaming servers to provide these pre-recorded or live classes?

No? 👉 Back to square one in coming up with a (new) analogy.
The point is, it is digital content. Yes? No? Let's start with the first canard of his argument.

How is what he's doing any different than what Spotify is doing? He's delivering digital content through an IOS App.
 
You don't have to tip anyone. It's still optional / voluntary
So will the content start adding the YouTube pleas like tale-evenaglists?

"Your support allows us to make new content, do good work and support our families"
"We need you to buy us a coffee..."

Every damn influencer video.

I will subscribe if I like your video not from your emotional blackmail to "don't forget to press that Like button" which turns me off.
 
So what about music or movies?
Or live music being transmitted to an iPhone?

If you can consume it on the iPhone, it's digital content.
But if you’re a big enough company that Apple needs and/or competes with (e.g. Netflix) then you can skirt Apple’s fees. I rarely see those who defend Apple’s 30% cut argue that Apple shouldn’t have the reader category of apps and that Netflix, Spotify, etc. should be forced to use Apple’s IAP and give Apple a cut of the subscriptions.
 
But if you’re a big enough company that Apple needs and/or competes with (e.g. Netflix) then you can skirt Apple’s fees. I rarely see those who defend Apple’s 30% cut argue that Apple shouldn’t have the reader category of apps and that Netflix, Spotify, etc. should be forced to use Apple’s IAP and give Apple a cut of the subscriptions.
Huh? A small company could skirt Apple's fees as well. Any company can create a free app that is essentially free advertising for a company or service. They can advertise to their clients in any number of traditional ways. But if they want to turn IOS into a money-making platform? They pay.
 
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It's almost as if one company shouldn't have this much control over digital commerce.
Either you exert complete control, or no control at all. The moment you start to carve out exceptions, then everyone will use that exception to get around your fees. Eventually, paying customers would be the exception.
 
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Probably not. But they're clearly using the tools!
Surely the Yoga Mat manufacturer should be entitled to their "fair" share of any tips the instructors receive!?
Did the yoga mat company provide the teacher with a built-in audience of qualified buyers, credit cards in hand? Did the yoga mat company build the software that powers your app, with constant updates and zero hosting fees? Did the yoga mat company process all the payments for your fees?
 
The writing has been on the wall. Cook is pulling out all the stops to prop up revenue.
Makes you wonder. If they’re this desperate to nickel and dime their users and developers, it tells me their hardware sales aren’t quite what they used to be.

Personally I think I’m going to move to Android and Windows when it comes time to upgrade. I’ve been an Apple guy for over 40 years but I’m so disgusted by them these days. The greed is nauseating. And I’ve completely lost respect for them as a company. They’re so hypocritical especially when it comes to China. It’s gross. It wouldn’t bother me if they just kept their mouths shut and did business but the constant moralizing is tiresome, made only worse by their naked hypocrisy when China says “jump”. I just don’t respect Apple at all these days.
 
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