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$5000 per violation means users will get a settlement check of ~$2 if they jump through all the hoops to join the settlement. The law firm that coordinates the class action will get the remaining $4998 per viloation.
Still, if half of Illinois is affected, that’s a $30B fine. Still peanuts in my opinion, but that might be enough to at least earn a passing mention in the boardroom.
 
At this point, if you're still using FB services that's on you.
Yes, people should reconsider using Facebook and make a decision for themselves in that regard, but no it is not “on them.” If a person is abused by a family member 20 times you don’t change who is at fault for the abuse on the 21st incident. Would it be wise to separate yourself from the situation? Of course. But it’s still not “on them.”
 
Part of the problem with enforcing this is that I imagine most people think there’s a big database of names and data sitting somewhere. The bigger problem is in the machine learning networks that have all this information jumbled up in a form that’s not easily indexed.

It‘s the equivalent of counting victims of a conman by having to go through a database of drivers license photos and asking the conman himself “Do you recognize this person?” for each one.
 
Yes, people should reconsider using Facebook and make a decision for themselves in that regard, but no it is not “on them.” If a person is abused by a family member 20 times you don’t change who is at fault for the abuse on the 21st incident. Would it be wise to separate yourself from the situation? Of course. But it’s still not “on them.”

At a certain point if you still trust Facebook after this many breaches of confidence, yes it is on you. If you can escape thew situation, and you have not multiple times, yes it is on you. Your analogy is a false equivalence; you usually can't escape abuse from family as easily as quitting Facebook.
 
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Bury them. I wish Apple would release alternatives to FB/IG. Instead we get terrible music related social networks that die instantly.

they are, very slowly and quietly implementing all the features of a social network using your iCloud account as the ID without explicitly calling it a social network.

iMessage: a while back they rolled out Messages for Business, iOS 13 added user avatars, iOS14 will bring @ notifications in group messages
iCloud Photo Sharing: with private, on device face recognition
Login with Apple: on websites and apps
calendar: share events with others
 
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Are they collecting data on non-users who also happen to be in the images?

Thats the thing about social media— you don’t have to be an idiot to have your privacy violated, you just need an idiot among your friends and family.
Non-users must assume there is a fully developed account for them derived from info harvested from accounts of friends and family. It’s just waiting for you to activate it.
 
At a certain point if you still trust Facebook after this many breaches of confidence, yes it is on you. If you can escape thew situation, and you have not multiple times, yes it is on you. Your analogy is a false equivalence; you usually can't escape abuse from family as easily as quitting Facebook.
While I agree the analogy over-reached, the main point still holds: blame the perpetrator, not the victim.

There's nothing illegal about being stupid, naive, or even willfully ignorant. If we start ignoring criminal behavior because the victims didn't try hard enough to avoid exploitation, then we're incentivizing deceptive behavior.

And I'm still not convinced the only victims here are active account holders.
 
At a certain point if you still trust Facebook after this many breaches of confidence, yes it is on you. If you can escape thew situation, and you have not multiple times, yes it is on you. Your analogy is a false equivalence; you usually can't escape abuse from family as easily as quitting Facebook.
The ease of escape is irrelevant unless you wish to quantify exactly what level is considered fair (you’re the one drawing a distinction so it’s up to you to tell us where that line is). I’m of the mindset that blaming a victim is of poor taste, counter productive, and just plain wrong. Not to mention you’re making an assumption that every victim of this action has the same Facebook history. Are people who just signed up forgiven by you for being victims? Or does one need to be a Facebook user for a certain length of time before the blame changes hand? Define the boundaries of your argument at the very least.
 
Facebook, owner of Instagram, is facing a lawsuit over allegedly harvesting the biometric data of users, according to Bloomberg.

But it's TikTok the U.S. wants to ban even though U.S. intelligence agencies don't see TikTok to be a threat


and Facebook, who has harmed American democracy, is allowed to continue being bad.


 
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Non-users must assume there is a fully developed account for them derived from info harvested from accounts of friends and family. It’s just waiting for you to activate it.
Yep. Facebook have acknowledged that they gather data on people who do not have accounts. Closing your account doesn't mean that they aren't continuing to gather data on you, it just means you aren't personally giving them data. Same for if you've never had an account.
 
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Yep. Facebook have acknowledged that they gather data on people who do not have accounts. Closing your account doesn't mean that they aren't continuing to gather data on you, it just means you aren't personally giving them data. Same for if you've never had an account.

And there is only one web browser which ensures Facebook gathers no data on you: Firefox with its 'Containers'.
 
And there is only one web browser which ensures Facebook gathers no data on you: Firefox with its 'Containers'.
Another way to ensure Facebook gathers no data on you is to not reward them by using Facebook products.

How does this help someone without an account? Does my using a containerized browser prevent them from pulling data from my friends pictures? Don’t they also pull data from non-Facebook products?
 
Facebook has to find new an inventive ways to harvest users data because that is the only way it can survive, the selling of users data.
 
FB is just plain evil; fry them, please! This is incredible! That's no different, and actually worse in a sense, than hackers stealing your passwords.
Facebook is evil and it is run by Dr. Evil.

For many people, social media is the opioid of internet addiction. They have to constantly feed their eyes and mind with a lot of useless drivel that gives them the dopamine high they crave.
 
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