Instagram Expected to Become 'More Tightly Integrated' With Facebook After Photo App's Founders Leave Company

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Instagram co-founders Kevin Systrom and Mike Krieger have left Facebook, explaining in a statement this week that they are taking some time off to "explore our curiosity and creativity again." According to people familiar with the matter speaking to Bloomberg, Systrom and Krieger are leaving due to growing tensions with Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg.

    Mike Krieger and Kevin Systrom at Instagram

    In recent months, Zuckerberg is said to have become more involved in the day-to-day work going on at Instagram, and "more reliant on Instagram in planning for Facebook's future." Facebook acquired Instagram in 2012, and up until now Systrom and Krieger had been able to keep the photo-sharing app's brand independent from Facebook while using the larger social network's resources to expand.

    With this year's Cambridge Analytica scandal, it's believed that Zuckerberg and Facebook are now leaning into Instagram's success as Facebook faces ongoing struggles. Facebook has even started talking about Instagram more often in its earning calls, with Zuckerberg recently stating that Instagram grew twice as fast being in the Facebook family as it could have on its own. Internally, Instagram employees said this was "unnecessary and unprovable."

    Adam Mosseri, who came from Facebook's news feed team to be head of product for Instagram in early 2018, is the most likely successor for Systrom and Krieger. Through all of this, Facebook is predicted to "more tightly integrate" Instagram into the larger company, making Instagram less independent than it is now.
    As it stands now, Instagram has largely been able to avoid negative association with the Facebook brand after the data privacy scandal earlier this year. A few other apps under the Facebook umbrella have also faced departing executives in the wake of the scandal, with WhatsApp co-founder Jan Koum leaving Facebook in April, reportedly clashing with Facebook executives over the messaging app's strategy and Facebook's attempts to use WhatsApp personal data in ways to monetize the service.

    Article Link: Instagram Expected to Become 'More Tightly Integrated' With Facebook After Photo App's Founders Leave Company
  2. OneMike macrumors 603


    Oct 19, 2005
    Time for users to leave Instagram too then. Hate Facebook with a passion.
  3. nwcs macrumors 68000


    Sep 21, 2009
    If Facebook starts turning Instagram into more FB with more FB invasive spyware then I’ll kindly delete my account. It was only for fun anyway.
  4. Dragonlord_66 macrumors member


    Mar 6, 2018
    well time to delete my instagram account since i dont wanna be spied on
  5. Darmok N Jalad macrumors 68000

    Darmok N Jalad

    Sep 26, 2017
    I always wondered how much FB was involved behind the scenes on the service. The fact that the developers are walking away from an incredibly popular product that they created suggests FB was pushing hard against their wishes. FB is on the decline, so Zuck must want Instagram to be next.
  6. atlchamp macrumors 68000


    Jun 19, 2012
    The co founders leaving the company that they built is NOT a good look at all. Probably some politics within FB that they did not approve of and they were not going to stand around and let it happen under their watch.
  7. H3LL5P4WN macrumors 68020


    Jun 19, 2010
    Pittsburgh PA
    It's not like FB hadn't already ruined Instagram, and weren't already mining it like they do everything on the 'big' platform.

    What was that Russian-linked photosharing app called again? Might be time to look into that one before Zuck sinks the ship. :D
  8. bluecoast macrumors 65816

    Nov 7, 2017
    What’s surprising is it took that long. I guess their stock options must’ve just vested.
  9. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
  10. TonyC28 macrumors 68000


    Aug 15, 2009
  11. mollyc macrumors 68020

    Aug 18, 2016
    Poor instagram. All we really want is our chronological feed back.
  12. mgollaher92 macrumors member


    Jun 14, 2016
  13. fumi2014 macrumors regular

    May 21, 2014
    It was heading that way already. Sponsored ads in the timeline etc. From here on in, it will be a complete train wreck as FB monetises it into oblivion.
  14. OldSchoolMacGuy Suspended


    Jul 10, 2008
    You're silly if you don't think that Facebook has been hugely involved in Instagram since their purchase of it. There's a reason their releases and new features sped up incredibly. It's not at all run as a separate product or company as some here seem to be acting.
  15. pika2000 macrumors 603

    Jun 22, 2007
    Wow, this is a big warning. Too bad everyone I know are flocking instagram thinking it's better than Facebook (without realizing it's being owned by the same people now).

    Facebook is ruining everything. First, the deal with Google so whatsapp backups to Google Drive are not encrypted. And now this. This is why we cannot have nice things. :(
  16. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

    Oct 17, 2011
    Facebook has already been involved for about six years now...
  17. pika2000 macrumors 603

    Jun 22, 2007
    Sure, but instagram seems to stay as it was as the founders are (were) still there. But now, it's up in the air. I can see Facebook quickly make instagram into another hate-infested-social-media. Facebook has been useless for me as the amount of fake accounts spreading hate and extremism are ridiculous, and Facebook turned a blind eye when those accounts are reported. Facebook like the engagement, apparently.
  18. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

    Oct 17, 2011
    It has definitely changed in various ways over the last six years. And plenty of Facebook involvement can and likely has been there in the background as far as tracking and the like goes, which is what was mentioned in various posts.
  19. GadgetBen macrumors 65816


    Jul 8, 2015
    I deleted Facebook earlier this year and it feels great to be rid of it.

    However, I hung onto Instagram and culled my friends down to my 40 closest as I enjoy seeing their pics. Now, I just get bombarded with adverts. I always report them as spam or offensive!

    I'm just wishing that an advert free paid service for something similar can take off and become popular, something that isn't run by that bug-eyed maniac.
  20. Sasparilla macrumors 65816

    Jul 6, 2012
    Instagram is what young folks, in particular are using (and not Facebook), so the Zuck is thinking this is how we get the young people (future growth cause that's all that matters) into the user data monetization path.

    Would be interesting to know what actually pushed the founders out the door.
  21. Ebok Suspended

    Aug 22, 2018
    instagram is getting worse. way too many ads and most are irrelevant. like i don't give a damn if you're a real estate agent, i really do not. get the hell off my feed.
  22. x-evil-x macrumors 601


    Jul 13, 2008
    Instagram has been getting really bad with the wannabe fake models living perfect lives and people obsessing about followers. It’s not a positive type of place for people honestly it’s so fake. Makes kids nowadays expect to have perfect lives. Look a certain way. Strive for something that’s not real.
    Bring back MySpace’s I liked having my own custom wallpaper and music playlist and top 10 friends.
  23. aaronhead14 macrumors 6502a


    Mar 9, 2009
    So Instagram's going to get worse? Good to know.
  24. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
    Yep. And some of the stuff it thinks I want to see...I have no idea where it’s coming from as it’s not anything I’ve ever searched for anywhere and certainly not anything I followed on FB when I was using that app. Hate it.
  25. mofro macrumors newbie

    Sep 25, 2018
    That's what happens when you sell out Jack Dorsey and join the dark side....

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