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my thoughts exactly!

Stupid to have 2 apps to do two simple things that worked perfectly in harmony. 1 gets updated out of sync from the other; just like FaceBook.

Way to LOOSE your users Instagram!

Then again look who owns them.
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Instagrams dm Chat is really really bad. It’s very basic. I’ve never liked it much for talking to people like iMessage has tons of fun things to do with people same with messages app for Facebook. Instagram could use a big overhaul in the messaging part of their app.
I’d rarher chat with most people on Facebook messenger especially android users. I never like texting them anymore. iMessage should just take over all of them

I find these ridiculous S.M. apps that duplicate simply what MMS does back in the day:
emoji, text, voice recordings, video recordings (the latter two limited I'll grant that). WhatsApp does this same thing even using the mobile number directly ... iMessage same thing with some easier layout and less limitations - except for being ONLY for iPhones - something Apple needs to resolve before ending up like BlackBerry's BBM (don't laugh there was a time we ALL thought that wouldn't die either - before 2007).

Not so sure WHAT this need to NOT have someone's direct phone number is for direct contact ... oh right the social media (S.M.) generation likes to CREEP on you before actually having character/principles in asking you for information about you first!

I don't have a FB account, I never want one again, So I don't wish to use Instagram combined with that service to have morons and others that went to the same schools to be nosey about my life, nor I don't wish to know about theirs!

I thought certain things like this was being scrutinized at FB due to recent investigations, I guess I was wrong.
 
my thoughts exactly!

Stupid to have 2 apps to do two simple things that worked perfectly in harmony. 1 gets updated out of sync from the other; just like FaceBook.

Way to LOOSE your users Instagram!

Then again look who owns them.
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I find these ridiculous S.M. apps that duplicate simply what MMS does back in the day:
emoji, text, voice recordings, video recordings (the latter two limited I'll grant that). WhatsApp does this same thing even using the mobile number directly ... iMessage same thing with some easier layout and less limitations - except for being ONLY for iPhones - something Apple needs to resolve before ending up like BlackBerry's BBM (don't laugh there was a time we ALL thought that wouldn't die either - before 2007).

Not so sure WHAT this need to NOT have someone's direct phone number is for direct contact ... oh right the social media (S.M.) generation likes to CREEP on you before actually having character/principles in asking you for information about you first!

I don't have a FB account, I never want one again, So I don't wish to use Instagram combined with that service to have morons and others that went to the same schools to be nosey about my life, nor I don't wish to know about theirs!

I thought certain things like this was being scrutinized at FB due to recent investigations, I guess I was wrong.
do you enjoy iMessage? do you enjoy normal text messaging?
 
Who are the "green bubble people" and how did they accelerate the "slide into a free fall"?

Android users. You know, the people you text who instead of having nice blue iMessage chat bubbles, theirs are alien green.

They accelerated the fall of Instagram because of photo quality:

1. You can get an Android phone just for simply trying on a pair of jeans. There's no way that a phone so cheap that it's given away for free is going to have the hours of engineering in the camera behind it that an iPhone does.
2. Because they're so inexpensive, the users aren't going to care as much about things like keeping their lens clean or even bothering to take a good shot. Heck, they probably use digital zoom too.
3. And the technical reason, Android has had system-level, detail-crushing image compression baked in to it's image sharing since it's inception (again, since the phones are so cheap, it made sense to go light on system resource use). This has never been confirmed as having been addressed, and no setting in Instagram or Android's settings can change that.

Proof:
https://www.xda-developers.com/a-look-into-instagrams-compression-quality/

TL;DR: non-artistic users are going to take poor pictures, their inferior OS is going to further degrade before uploading to a service that also compresses those images further.
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Way to LOOSE your users Instagram!

Loose users eh? I don't know that that's an Instagram/Failbook problem. :D
 
Android users. You know, the people you text who instead of having nice blue iMessage chat bubbles, theirs are alien green.

They accelerated the fall of Instagram because of photo quality:

1. You can get an Android phone just for simply trying on a pair of jeans. There's no way that a phone so cheap that it's given away for free is going to have the hours of engineering in the camera behind it that an iPhone does.
2. Because they're so inexpensive, the users aren't going to care as much about things like keeping their lens clean or even bothering to take a good shot. Heck, they probably use digital zoom too.
3. And the technical reason, Android has had system-level, detail-crushing image compression baked in to it's image sharing since it's inception (again, since the phones are so cheap, it made sense to go light on system resource use). This has never been confirmed as having been addressed, and no setting in Instagram or Android's settings can change that.

Proof:
https://www.xda-developers.com/a-look-into-instagrams-compression-quality/

TL;DR: non-artistic users are going to take poor pictures, their inferior OS is going to further degrade before uploading to a service that also compresses those images further.
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Loose users eh? I don't know that that's an Instagram/Failbook problem. :D
You are saying that a stereotypical overgeneralization of a user base mostly related to technical quality of pictures made a social network go downhill somehow?
 
Perfect. I'll have two FB apps and soon two IG apps. Can't wait. :rolleyes:

Thanks goodness Apple did away with the 32GB entry level 8/+/X. That way we have more room to install unnecessary messaging apps on our devices.
 
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The day that they remove DMs from Instagram is the day that I stop sending DMs in Instagram. There is zero f*ing chance that I will install a secondary app for that.
 
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Android users. You know, the people you text who instead of having nice blue iMessage chat bubbles, theirs are alien green.

They accelerated the fall of Instagram because of photo quality:

1. You can get an Android phone just for simply trying on a pair of jeans. There's no way that a phone so cheap that it's given away for free is going to have the hours of engineering in the camera behind it that an iPhone does.
2. Because they're so inexpensive, the users aren't going to care as much about things like keeping their lens clean or even bothering to take a good shot. Heck, they probably use digital zoom too.
3. And the technical reason, Android has had system-level, detail-crushing image compression baked in to it's image sharing since it's inception (again, since the phones are so cheap, it made sense to go light on system resource use). This has never been confirmed as having been addressed, and no setting in Instagram or Android's settings can change that.

Proof:
https://www.xda-developers.com/a-look-into-instagrams-compression-quality/

TL;DR: non-artistic users are going to take poor pictures, their inferior OS is going to further degrade before uploading to a service that also compresses those images further.
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Loose users eh? I don't know that that's an Instagram/Failbook problem. :D

Yeah bad spelling mistake on my part lol.

correction: lose
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do you enjoy iMessage? do you enjoy normal text messaging?

Actually yes I do enjoy iMessage a LOT! In fact I actually LOVE IT, so much I'd love to have it on multiple platforms yet now I don't think it would be successful for Android users. I rely on text/mms messaging for friends that are on Android because well I don't like WhatsApp - sure both use mobile #'s yet I just received an odd WhatsApp messaging asking me to select something under the blue line (which was not in the message preview at all) from a random 306 area code which I've never contacted before. Blocked & Reported As Spam. Again this can happen on TXT/MMS yet thus far when I block in iOS that number is never contacting me again - Apple is the first platform to do this natively and they've done a fantastic job.

I'm critical at Apple where I have an opinion yet I love their products, direction and focus most of the time.
 
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Yeah bad spelling mistake on my part lol.

correction: lose
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Actually yes I do enjoy iMessage a LOT! In fact I actually LOVE IT, so much I'd love to have it on multiple platforms yet now I don't think it would be successful for Android users. I rely on text/mms messaging for friends that are on Android because well I don't like WhatsApp - sure both use mobile #'s yet I just received an odd WhatsApp messaging asking me to select something under the blue line (which was not in the message preview at all) from a random 306 area code which I've never contacted before. Blocked & Reported As Spam. Again this can happen on TXT/MMS yet thus far when I block in iOS that number is never contacting me again - Apple is the first platform to do this natively and they've done a fantastic job.

I'm critical at Apple where I have an opinion yet I love their products, direction and focus most of the time.
That is why I like better messaging apps as I do talk to multiple people on different platforms. That is why I hate instagrams messaging side of things because it is so basic. Facebook is much better. Id love iMessage to be for everything but that cant happen now can it.
 
That is why I like better messaging apps as I do talk to multiple people on different platforms. That is why I hate instagrams messaging side of things because it is so basic. Facebook is much better. Id love iMessage to be for everything but that cant happen now can it.

You’re right iMessage can’t be for everything.

Instagram works perfectly because it’s central to all users that use it. Share sheet allows you sharing the content outside. Remember like FB, IG is about content first and foremost then aboutit conversation within its own sphere. FB messenger is the same. The two don’t share any similarities nor the same demographics nor memberships yet their owned by the same company that wishes to combine the two for centralized data bring in those on IG not yet but into FB. That’s the issue I have. I don’t want nor need them to be combined. To me IG has more use to more users than FB. And that is why the change has begun.
 
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