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The Apple-Intel relationship definitely seems to be a bit better than the Apple-Motorola relationship of years past. Preferential treatment is great, hopefully it will continue with the upcoiming Penryn chips. :cool:

That's what I'm hoping. Shame I won't actually be able to purchase one when they come out (finances), so an early release won't actually affect me. But having this preferential treatment is pretty cool. Much better than the sit-and-wait for under-delivery from IBM and previously Motorola.
 
I bought a 24" iMac with a 2.8 Core 2 Extreme CPU, or at least that's what the order and the acknowledgement says. "About This Mac" reports a Core 2 Duo, though.

I haven't talked to Apple about this yet, but is there a 2.8 Core 2 Duo? Is the iMac misreporting the CPU?

Hm.


Perhaps that is what 10.4.11 will do is to fix this CPU reporting!

Anyway, it is awesome to have a relationship with a CPU maker where we get a steady stream of updates and can even scoop the rest of the industry! Wahoo!!

Now, how about those 2.6GHz cpu's for the MBP??? [Like I really need a 2.6 instead of a 2.4 or a 2.2 for that matter....] :rolleyes:
 
I bought a 24" iMac with a 2.8 Core 2 Extreme CPU, or at least that's what the order and the acknowledgement says. "About This Mac" reports a Core 2 Duo, though.

I haven't talked to Apple about this yet, but is there a 2.8 Core 2 Duo? Is the iMac misreporting the CPU?

Hm.

Try clicking "More Info" to launch System Profiler that might gove you some more details.
 


Intel announced the Core 2 Extreme X7900 yesterday at Games Convention 2007.

The 2.8GHz Merom processor offers a 4MB L2 cache with support for 800MHz Front Side Bus.

Readers will recognize this chip as the chip that was announced in the iMac on August 7th as a high end configuration. It appears that Apple is able to get preferential shipments on upcoming Intel processors. Intel had previously provided Apple with a 3.0GHz Xeon (Clovertown) processor with an early limited production.

Article Link

I still remember debating this with a guy who was adamant that "Intel will not give Apple a new chip this early!" And was saying it was an overclocked X7800. :eek:
 
cool, I've asked this before (I think on M.R.) wonder if we'll see thin in MBP anytime soon. I'm wondering because I'll be in the market starting next week for a new laptop. But I don't wan't to play the waiting game for "the next update" forever.

As a side note; any opinions on if I should go 15" or 17" ?
I'm torn between LCD vs Higher Res diplay.

thiS and LED?

I'm torn between wanting hi res + needing 17" and the efficiency of LED backlighting. I'm hoping/pretty sure that by the time I will be able to purchase one all the MBP displays will be LED. And the 15" may be hi res 1680x1050 by then, too.
 
Cool! So maybe we'll see the Mac Pro updated a bit before November 11, since that's when Intel formally launches new Xeon processors. The Mac Pro is due for an upgrade!

That would be welcome to Multimedia and the like who have been waiting for a new machine. They (the Mac Pros) really are in need of an update. I didn't know there was a Nov 11 release date for the new Penryns. Maybe I did but it seemed so far away. If Apple is able to get 1-2 months lead time on some of Intel's new chips, maybe we'll see a MacPro release with Leopard or even sooner?!
 
I still remember debating this with a guy who was adamant that "Intel will not give Apple a new chip this early!" And was saying it was an overclocked X7800. :eek:


No offense intended, but everything I have read said the 2.8GHz unit in the iMac 24" is indeed an overclocked X7800. Intel "unlocked" the FSB multiplier on the X7800 specifically to allow end-users and OEMs to "kick it up a notch".

Now, Apple might have always had X7900s, but I tend to think that was not the case. It is possible, if not probable, that Apple would start taking X7900s now for the 2.8GHz part, unless they're getting X7800's cheaper.
 
The Apple-Intel relationship definitely seems to be a bit better than the Apple-Motorola relationship of years past. Preferential treatment is great, hopefully it will continue with the upcoiming Penryn chips. :cool:
I bet Apple makes enough noise in the background to encourage Intel to pay attention to them. Like I bet the choice of using AMD GPUs in the iMac instead of faster "neutral" nVidia GPUs, was partly to point out to Intel that Apple is still keeping it's options open. Besides, Intel probably doesn't mind giving Apple first dibs since it isn't a huge volume and Apple seems willing to keep quiet about it, like how the 3GHz Clovertons were never actually advertised as X5365 or the 2.8GHz iMacs weren't advertised as Extremes.
 
This is because Steve sorted them out at WWDC:2007 with a nice silver shiny thing designed by Johnny Ives, I'm sure of it.

There is no other possible explanation.
 
It's all very good...

Except it's a notebook processor.

Which Apple have put into a perfectly nice and acceptable but ultimately rather sub-par desktop.

Er... Hello?

We'll see real notebooks with these inside in the next few months, and not from Apple.
 
thiS and LED?

I'm torn between wanting hi res + needing 17" and the efficiency of LED backlighting. I'm hoping/pretty sure that by the time I will be able to purchase one all the MBP displays will be LED. And the 15" may be hi res 1680x1050 by then, too.

By the time I purchase an upgrade, I hope that Apple fixes the QC problems with the yellow displays, or gets them from a different manufacturer. I also hope to see that 2.8 GHz in the next 17" MBP and/or high end 15" MBP.
 
TDP matters

Apple has a far lower TDP standard than Dell or H-P (Hewlett-Packard).

As such an INTEL release of a processor for "mobile", may not indeed be "mobile" in terms of Apple geeks.

Apple is on the "bleeding edge" of "ultra-mobile", and as such they will necessarily wait for the die-shrink version to go mobile. The good news is that in the mean-time iMac is the "neo-mobile" line in/at Apple.

All-in-one indeed :D

Rocketman

iPhone is the new PBG3 color with internet (formerly MacPlus handheld)!
 
I bought a 24" iMac with a 2.8GHz Core 2 Extreme CPU, or at least that's what the order and the acknowledgement says. "About This Mac" reports a Core 2 Duo, though.

I haven't talked to Apple about this yet, but is there a 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo? Is the iMac misreporting the CPU?

Hm.

Quoting myself. Thanks to everyone who replied to this. The System Profiler shows it as Core 2 Duo, but all the specs match the Core 2 Extreme. It was helpful to find out that there is no 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo, and the link to the Apple knowledge base was the clincher.

Bottom line: The iMac reports Core 2 Extreme as if it were a Core 2 Duo. That's what I suspected, and I'm "extreme"ly grateful for the confirmation.

It's a fabulous machine, by the way.
 
Apple and Intel documentation

I still remember debating this with a guy who was adamant that "Intel will not give Apple a new chip this early!" And was saying it was an overclocked X7800. :eek:

This Apple page has a link to the Intel Core 2 Mobile Extreme Product Brief

Unless I am reading this wrong, the brief mentions only a X7800 chip.

"... Performance measured on Intel® Core™2 Extreme mobile processor X7800 running SPECint*_base2006..."

What's the deal?

:apple: momoe
 
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