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It was sometime early in the morning, but I think this update warrants more than a stealthy appearance.
New to the site but had to post this:
Alienware just updated their site and are now selling desktops with the new intel 45nm chip.
http://www.alienware.com/product_de...?SysCode=PC-AREA51-ALX-R7&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT
Apple can't be far behind
Alienware just updated their site and are now selling desktops with the new intel 45nm chip.
http://www.alienware.com/product_de...?SysCode=PC-AREA51-ALX-R7&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT
Apple can't be far behind
uhhh
Says who? Apple should have released the pynryn mac pro today sense they bought millions of them already. I hate surprises & Delays!
Says who? Apple should have released the pynryn mac pro today sense they bought millions of them already. I hate surprises & Delays!
Note that's a Yorkfield (single socket) quad CPU on an X38 motherboard.
At 4.0 GHz!
The Mac Pro would use the Harpertown (dual socket) quad CPU with a Seaburg (i5400) chipset.
I don't know much about overclocking. Is overclocking a chip that much stable? If so, why doesn't everyone do it? If not, why risk stability for speed?
I say tomorrow. They don't want to bore the audience at MWSF with a professional machine. MWSF is the place for mainly consumer level products. I would hope Apple would announce the Mac Pro within the next eight days.
Edit: I just checked Apple's website and they still list the Mac Pro as shipping within 24 Hours. So either it gets released tomorrow or they wait until MWSF.
While the MacPros are upgradable, there are many aspects of them where you cannot simply replace the parts.
Take my PowerMac G5 for example: not enough USB ports but none of the 5 USB PCI cards I tried worked properly, and my USB hub now doesn't work properly with Leopard, too many things need to be plugged into the built in USB ports; graphics card: Apple have typically offered very few options for replacing graphics cards; bluetooth - I'm still using a D-link USB bluetooth DBT-120, if it is still possible to get the built in bluetooth I don't think they ever produced a Bluetooth 2 module for my model, and as far as I know there is no reliable bluetooth 2 USB dongle available for Macs. These are just a few examples as to how these upgradable Macs aren't so upgradable, and mine is only 2 and a half years old. When the new Mac Pros come out, there are bound to be improvements that cannot be matched by replacing parts on the old models.
The other major issue for wanting the new models asap is that the old models are effectively over priced. Who in their right mind wound pay for a Mac Pro today, when the new models will be significantly better for the same money. For those who intend keeping it until it's too out-dated, the new models may be capable of running the latest OS and software for perhaps a year or more longer than the current models. So, even for those who don't absolutely have to have the fastest performance, it doesn't make economic sense for anyone who doesn't absolutely need to buy one today.
MacBooks always said "ships within 24 hours." Even before the Santa Rosa updates. So seeing a change in shipping wouldn't happen before an update anyway.
Then buy a Mac Pro.
Back in the days of the Powermac G4 one could buy an upgradable tower system for $1,500. One would think that with th price of electronics falling Apple could offer a $1,500 upgradeable tower system for $1,500 today. In 2007 Apples towers system start at $1,000 higher than they were in 1997.
I'll wait untill Mac World 2008 before building one myself.
This can't come soon enough.
I'm very, very anxious to find out what the rest of this Mac Pro will be like...
- Pricing
- GFRX ?!?!?!?! (...please...)
- HW RAID card
- Looks
I'm very, very anxious to find out what the rest of this Mac Pro will be like...
- Pricing
- GFRX ?!?!?!?! (...please...)
- HW RAID card
- Looks
Well if you research the USB cards you can find ones that work. I got an adaptec which states Mac compatibility, for $10. And it works in my G4 and on the first go. I didn't need to do anything but put it in.
As far as bluetooth, it is best to get it from Apple. That is what I am doing. And in general quality USB dongles have always worked for me.
I agree with the rest, it is foolish to buy now especially when all the pieces are in place for a revision. I also don't think it is a "tomorrow or january thing," I don't see anything reason why they couldn't wait a few weeks and release it.
I don't think any new mini tower would cut it in the professional world unless you had a budget to maintain. The mini tower that users want is more for gaming purposes and tinkering with the insides, trust me... I wanted it for those reasons as well. Since one may not come in our lifetime, I have come to grips with it and have made the decision to choose between the high end iMac and sacrifice upgradeability for price, the low-end Mac Pro and sacrifice price for upgradeability, or the mid range to high end 8 core Mac Pro, and just go all out and take out a second mortgage.
I think Apple will give us our Mac Pro before the end of January next year. Hopefully sooner, but if not sooner than before January so it will be here. I would love to grab a 17" MBP and Mac Pro by Feb. but I know I won't have the cash for both, only one then the other, and I am putting my money on the portable system that has done me very well this past 6 months. The dual G5 I have can hold out a little longer for me, so any Mac Pro that comes won't be in my vision for at least another year.
There won't be an Apple ultra-portable notebook at MWSF 08. There may be a redesigned 13.3" MacBook Pro and new MacBook Pros sporting Penryn but nothing below 13.3" in a less than 3 lbs. case. I think this MW will yield us our Mac Pro update, a MBP update to Penryn, and maybe a new rental scheme for the iTS and new toys like an updated Apple TV and Airport Express with 11n. Hopefully Apple will give us pros new high-end monitors with more FW400/800 ports and consumers a lesser version with just the current ports in a 22" and 24" version for what everyone else is charging. Maybe a new mini tower, or just an updated Mac Mini.
The Mac Pro will never be overkill in the pro world, overkill now means run of the mill two years from now, and "Shoot I may have to update" 4 years from now. The staying power of Apple's pro gear is simply amazing. Dual 1.42 GHz Power Mac G4s are still going for around $1000 or so.
Apple Chat Now Convo
I just had this "Chat Now" convo with an Apple person on the website. lol Obviously he's gonna dodge all questions about a MacPro, but I found this interesting...
You are chatting with Randal, an Apple Expert
Apple: Hi, my name is Randal. Welcome to Apple!
Apple: How may I help you today?
Me: Looking to buy a MacPro, is this product being updated tomorrow?
Apple: No, there is no update for that.
Me: Is this an automated response? lol
Apple: No, I am a real person.
Me: Are you just not allowed to say if there is an update coming? Rumors are flying that a new MacPro is debuting tomorrow or Wednesday. Just don't want to miss out on that or just to order one now.
Apple: There is no announcement of any updates. You can keep visiting our site for any updates.
Me: I'll revisit tomorrow and hope for the best. Thank you for your time.
I just had this "Chat Now" convo with an Apple person on the website. lol Obviously he's gonna dodge all questions about a MacPro, but I found this interesting...
You are chatting with Randal, an Apple Expert
Apple: Hi, my name is Randal. Welcome to Apple!
Apple: How may I help you today?
Me: Looking to buy a MacPro, is this product being updated tomorrow?
Apple: No, there is no update for that.
Me: Is this an automated response? lol
Apple: No, I am a real person.
Me: Are you just not allowed to say if there is an update coming? Rumors are flying that a new MacPro is debuting tomorrow or Wednesday. Just don't want to miss out on that or just to order one now.
Apple: There is no announcement of any updates. You can keep visiting our site for any updates.
Me: I'll revisit tomorrow and hope for the best. Thank you for your time.
Sorry to wander off topic but...
I had no problems with USB cards when I had a PowerMac G4. I hate to admit it, but I did spend a considerable amount of time researching USB cards for my model of G5, even going so far as contacting technical support of the manufacturers, buying and trying various cards/brands, posting on forums, reading xlr8yourmac. It is a fact that not a single person was able to report the successful use of a USB card in my model of PowerMac G5 (dual 2.3GHz).
Finding BT for any system is hard enough. Most computers that don't have it built in rely on a dongle, and dongles are crap pieces of hardware that get lost in a matter of days, or break in a matter of months. Especially that POS D-Link... I had to buy two of those and lost them both. I agree with the need for Apple to bring one out ASAP, but there is no reason to think that everyone is saying the same thing, and that Apple is doing anybody a disservice. The only people Apple is pissing off in my opinion is their stock holders. Most people needing a Mac Pro are waiting quietly by their G5s and G4s dreaming of their new system... like me.
I remember those days... in fact you could get one for around $1300 at one point. Those were the days... I got my G5 for $1800 and now you can't even go to the store and get anything below $2500. If I were a college student I would be struggling to get the Quad 2.0GHz Mac Pro via the online store. I would love for Apple to continue making different BTO options of the Mac Pro that take the price down to at least $1799, but I don't think Apple can or will do it. The Xeon processors and the FB DIMMS of the MacPro are too expensive, and Apple is not having any trouble pushing the MP. My newspaper bought four of them about a month ago, and I am sure other companies that could care less about the coolest newest GFX card are buying them in the same manner.
Apple instead is trying to make the iMac fit that bill, and the only thing that makes the iMac not as great is that it's an all in one that you can't upgrade outside of the RAM and HDD, gamers are pissed about that. The high end iMac is a beast, and a screamer in 3D games, but next year may not be the case. Right now, Apple could intro a new machine to fit between the MP and iMac that is the mini tower everyone has been asking for, and charge a premium of $1499 for it with 2GB of RAM a 250 GB HDD an 8800 card and dual core intel standard and everyone would go nuts. Alas, Apple may actually know what they are doing, and may not intro anything outside of a new MBP and updated MPs with Penryn.
Hmm. We have a couple of those at work. I will try my card out and see what I can come up with.
The only problem I can see is that that model is PCI-X. I am pretty sure there is two way backward compability with those slots, so PCI-X cards would work in a PCI slot and PCI card would work in PCI-X slots.
What kind of cards did you try?
I know, it was just fun. That and I am still convinced it was an automated response.
I agree with you. As an iMac owner WAITING for the right time to upgrade to the Mac Pro, I am wanting to do so but also WAITING for an updated Cinema with built in mic/webcam as well...HOPEFULLY!!!
So what's interesting about that chat?
It's common knowledge that an Apple employee, even if they have knowledge, will not speak of an unreleased product before it is officially announced by Apple.
So my question is why would you waste "Randal's" time by asking him loaded questions that either he is not allowed to answer (regardless of whether or not he knows the answer, which in my experience he does not know).
Also if you were really interested in buy a new Mac Pro today and Apple upgraded the machine tomorrow, they would normally send you the revised machine (of course if it's a replacement model of what you ordered).