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Intel Announces Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Extreme

Its cool, but means nothing (to me anyway) until Apple actually shows us some products that use it.


Thank God the days of waiting 6-12 months for updates is over.
 
MrCrowbar said:
So "Core" goes like "Pentium". So will we get "Core 3", "Core 4" etc.
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That's what the rumour at C|net says...


MrCrowbar said:
I thought "Core Duo" means "Dual Core Processor". Then we will have "Core 3 Quad" eventually? Whoever thought about that name...
Isn't it called Pentium D in the PC worls anyway?
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I'd guess Quattro, myself 😉 .

Pentium D is a Netburst dual-core, very different architecture from a Core Duo.


MrCrowbar said:
The mashines are now opn Intel alright, but making too many updates isn't good. Twice or 3 times a year is ok, otherwise people are reluctant to buy knowing there will be an pdate very soon.
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Welcome to the wonderful world of Intel - Apple will be updating much more rapidly, else they will risk being seen as pushing obsolete kit.


MrCrowbar said:
I just hope my iMac is the fastest one available for some time 😛 .
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Nope, you'll lose on this one. After August, your iMac will be an older generation 32-bit CPU, when the new iMac as a faster 64-bit capable CPU.


MrCrowbar said:
Don't know if I will upgrade my CPU this soon. It's fast enough for the stuff I do.
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It may be possible to put the faster CPU in your iMac - it has a socket for the CPU.

But, you're smart to realize that it's "fast enough" - no need to spend money on the latest if what you have meets your needs. (I'm typing on a 2.6 GHz P4 with a 400MHz bus - it's fast enough 😉 )
 
chuckles:) said:
I seem to remember this same argument from when the MBP came out,
just about everyone thought it was a dumb name, but we got used to it didn't we?
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yes, but just cuz we got used to it doesn't mean we still don't think it's dumb.
 
I agree the name leaves something to be desired. However, it's not without precedent--if I'm not mistaken, Intel wanted to ditch the "x86" naming when it went to "Pentium," which was the next generation or "5th." So, pentium II, III, IV are all 5-II, 5-III, et al.

Nice to see Intel hasn't learned much since those days. 😉

I'll keep calling them Merom and Conroe and hope that the people I talk to are smart enough to know what the hell I'm talking about. And yes, I'm prepared to be disappointed.
 
AidenShaw said:
It may be possible to put the faster CPU in your iMac - it has a socket for the CPU.
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Yea, I know. But I'd want to upgrade RAM (> 2GB) and Graphics Card first but none of it is possible on iMacs. And intel iMacs seem to be difficult to take apart. I void my warranty if I break something when swapping processors, right? I miss the old G5 iMacs that were beautiful on the onside too. I know I'll have this Mac long enough for the hard drive to die someday so I'll have to disassemble the whole thing to get to the HDD 😡 .
 
Great news!!!!

It's great being with Intel now, the updates are so much faster (if a bit confusing) 🙂

I hope Apple renames theses chips.... cause Intel needs a new marketing department...the names are awful
 
Great, confusing the new chips with the current Core line (which, ironically, is NOT based on the Core architecture...). That's their fault for naming Yonah "Core", when it isn't. Surely they should've distinguished between their desktop and mobile line with more than a model number (So a Core 2 Duo 5000 is a desktop CPU, but the 6000 is mobile?).
 
AidenShaw said:
...Also, Merom will run the 64-bit software that's coming, so your iMac/Mini with a Merom should be useful further into the future than a Yonah system will be. Note also that in 64-bit mode you get another 20% or so - making the Merom about 50% faster than the Yonah when running 64-bit apps.
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That's what I'm waiting for. While I usually don't expect to buy "future-proof" computers, it seems like Merom will at least give me semblance of such protection. Though I wonder how far away 64 bit applications are...

My question is when will we see Merom in the Mini? It's still relatively fresh in its current incarnation, and it's anticipated that WWDC will see the PowerMac replacement, not the consumer level machines. I guess Apple could announce the update to the iMac and Mini at WWDC while focusing on the tower. If so, that's a lot of "new" products when you consider that the MBP will also have to be updated. This Intel time-frame has me happily disoriented. 🙂
 
hyperpasta said:
Wait a minute! Am I blind, or is there no mention of a Core 2 Extreme in that C|NET Article?
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Right, they haven't mentioned that bit. Here's a source that does discuss it in way too much detail.
 
I think at this point, if Intel is going to be retarded about their naming (what else do you expect from a PC company?), I think Apple should just call the next PowerMac the G6. It is technically the Sixth Generation chip in the PowerMac line isn't it?

My reasons for keeping the name PowerMac G6:
1) This desktop is the most "powerful" computer Apple offers along all lines.
2) It is the most trusted and recognized name in the industry and non-industries.
3) It has "Mac" in the name already to go along with Steve's reasoning of changing the name of the PowerBook.
 
Can't they just call them: Core 1, Core 2, Core 3,.....

And drop the Duo designation as they will all be duo soon enough

They could label with solo where nessesary, and it would make sense.

this is not like the the MacBook Pro at all!!!! as that name didn't confuse people.

I had to read it three times over before I got it, I can't imagine the poor salespeople on the floor trying to explain this name to someone who doesn't have a firm grasp on computer lingo.
 
KindredMAC said:
I think at this point, if Intel is going to be retarded about their naming (what else do you expect from a PC company?), I think Apple should just call the next PowerMac the G6. It is technically the Sixth Generation chip in the PowerMac line isn't it?

My reasons for keeping the name PowerMac G6:
1) This desktop is the most "powerful" computer Apple offers along all lines.
2) It is the most trusted and recognized name in the industry and non-industries.
3) It has "Mac" in the name already to go along with Steve's reasoning of changing the name of the PowerBook.
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Perfect!!! e-mail that to Steve
 
I would have predicted Core64.

Core 2 Duo/Solo/Extreme is a little weird, but at least it provides easy abbreviation: C2D, C2S, C2X.
 
So just to be clear... Core 2 Extreme is NOT Woodcrest.

Woodcrest is going to be called the Xeon 5100 series.

Core 2 Extreme must just be the top-model Conroe chips.
 
081440 said:
...I can't imagine the poor salespeople on the floor trying to explain this name to someone who doesn't have a firm grasp on computer lingo.
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If a customer asks why it's called Intel Core 2 Duo:

"It's the 2nd version of Intel's 'Core' series chips.
'Duo' [Quattro, Sexta, Octa, Penta, 😀 ] simply indicates the number of processors on that chip."

If a sales person can't explain that, they need to be fired.
 
Great. So, I guess in light of Apple's new policy of giving product names tounge twisters the Mac Pro Desktop Extreme will debut in August.
 
MrCrowbar said:
Yea, I know. But I'd want to upgrade RAM (> 2GB) and Graphics Card first but none of it is possible on iMacs.
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The chipset in the iMac can handle 4 GiB of RAM, if you use 2 GiB DIMMs. Not sure if Apple's firmware supports that, you'll have to watch for reports of people buying 3rd party 2 GiB DIMMs.
 
Chupa Chupa said:
Great. So, I guess in light of Apple's new policy of giving product names tounge twisters the Mac Pro Desktop Extreme will debut in August.
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Are you referring to how much more complicated and hard to pronounce "MacBook Pro" is, compared to "PowerBook G4"? 😉
 
nagromme said:
I would have predicted Core64.

Core 2 Duo/Solo/Extreme is a little weird, but at least it provides easy abbreviation: C2D, C2S, C2X.
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Now that's a good name - I've got a Core64 and 4gigs-on-the-floor.

Now if they can just get a Beatles song to go with it for the big launch . . .

When I'm (Core) 64!
 
nagromme said:
So just to be clear... Core 2 Extreme is NOT Woodcrest.

Woodcrest is going to be called the Xeon 5100 series.

Core 2 Extreme must just be the top-model Conroe chips.
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Looking at all the published reports, it looks like what really happened is that the graphics made their way out, and all the reporters are speculating wildly about what chips belong to what logos. No two reports are exactly the same. No one has named names, they are trying to scoop an announcement that is apparently scheduled for Monday.
 
chuckles:) said:
I seem to remember this same argument from when the MBP came out,
just about everyone thought it was a dumb name, but we got used to it didn't we?
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Agreed. And now people are denying that Apple will call the iBook the MacBook. Retarded.
 
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