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Intel Announces Full Lineup of Kaby Lake Processors for iMac, MacBook Pro, and More
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Wouldn't it be hilarious if they updated it in March though?
Shocking would be more like it but I be laughing with joy... maybe. Steve Jobs "one more thing" is now TC's "one fewer thing" so wait and see on if some feature is removed even as they add the latest chip.
No, what you REALLY mean is: "I wish Intel would stick to their original Release Dates." This is stuff that was SUPPOSED to be out this past summer.
This should bring with it a DDR4 low power controller for low power DDR4 so apple will win back the pro market this fall with 32 gig ram MacBooks with 20% faster CPU and the same horrible battery life we already have but at least they will feel they were listened to.
They've been waiting for Intel to get off their a** and release this stuff. No one can design for chips that don't exist yet.
Sheesh!
Most interesting thing about Kaby Lake is the support for Optane memory/SSD, but since there is no real Optane storage optionsout there yet, and Apple insist on soldering everything to the motherboard, it is of no real value yet.
The 5th gen Broadcoms from 2015 got significant energy efficiency enhancement. The 4th gen -M 35Watt chips vanished replaced by 15W -U chips of comparable speeds. That's major. We noticed it in the corporate laptop refreshes, significant battery life improvement.
Really not that long ago, in the realm of major CPU architectures.
http://arstechnica.com/information-...ent-model-extending-the-life-of-each-process/
"The new plan is to introduce a third generation of 14nm processors, called Kaby Lake, before shrinking that to 10nm in the second half of 2017."
KabyLake is clearly a 2nd refresh, stop gap, until more badassery later this year.
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Actually, if you would actually read some reviews, you would already know that, due to improved thermal management in the 2016 MBPs, they actually run faster-for-much-longer than the previous models, which ended up having to throttle-back after only a few minutes of CPU-intensive tasks.
But don't let something like facts stop the Hate...
A little less iPhone conversation, a little more iMac love. Just a little bit more and I am ...
That's what it seemed like to me, the improvements seemed to go along with graphics card tasks, so if you have a dGPU, you wouldn't notice the same gains. While it seems like a better upgrade than I originally anticipated, it doesn't seem like I'd notice much in terms of performance since I have the 460 GPU in my MBP. Still a bummer the new tech gets announced 2 weeks after I get it, but my early 2008 MBP is still serviceable and CPU gains are only slowing down at the moment, so I'm sure this thing will be fine for a long long time.
No, the article says 25% improvement from previous Haswell processes. Anandtech's review says there is little to no difference in IPC between Kaby and Skylake. Most of the differences are reviews that not comparing apples to apples in clock/turbo clock. Some newer processes have higher clocks than older skylake but in the end the IPC is nearly the same.
We should see them in a new 5K iMac (and perhaps MacBook Pros, MacBooks and Mac Minis) come this March.
Let's see... iMac 21.5" will still use integrated graphics despite a 4K display. Also it's going to come with Skylake only
The iMac 21" uses a special type of mainboard from Intel where everything is integrated into a handful of chips. I believe Intel only recently released a Skylake version of it and I do not believe they plan a Kaby Lake version.
We'll probably see Kably Lake MacBook Pros this year. I believe the current MBP was supposed to ship at WWDC but the TouchBar appears to have taken longer than expected to implement.
The MacBook Air used an all-new class of CPUs from Intel so they had a reason to work with Apple to get it to the market to prime interest from the public and other PC makers.
Yes, but these are the CPUs that Apple has been waiting for to update the bulk of the Mac lineup.
Because Mobile makes up the significant bulk of Mac unit shipments. And we still have desktop class CPUs in the 27" iMac Desktop.
And that 20% improvement is already 50% above what 80% of the population needs.
No on the first, probably on the second, unless the Mac Pro gets updated.
I have always wondered what the performance of a pile of RAM sitting out on a TB 3 enclosure would be like...
Anyone with real knowledge of that sort of thing care to weigh-in on that thought? I know it wouldn't be fast enough for "main RAM"; but what about sort of "ultra-fast Virtual Memory"? Kind of like in the olden-days, when Photoshop would let you set up a "Scratch Disk" (maybe it still does?), only F-A-S-T.
I could see apple using these in the fall of 2017 AFTER the the back to school period ends and the promotion is over. We shall see...winning the lotto is easier then predicting updates for the Mac at this point!
I'm also going to assume that there will not be a press conference this year for a "Mac World update" like in years past
I'm also going to assume that there will not be a press conference this year for a "Mac World update" like in years past
This is the real key. People desire portability more than processing power these days.
The big difference these days is getting 10-12hours (literally, all day) battery without plugging in with a 6th gen i5 -U. Vs the days of old with 1st and 2nd gen i5 -M's of only ~2hours.
Laptops completely superceded and replaced the desire for iPad type devices. That's not insignificant. And look how the market's tablet/ipad sales of stagnated and/or dropped. Intel saw a threat, and worked the channel to nip it in the bud.
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I see no performance gain. Here's a just released ARS Technica article about Kaby Lake. Disappointing.
Intel has been a huge let-down over the last few years.
Mac mini is very tiny, with a very small harddrive and small thermal capacity. It's going to max out at a 35-45W CPU in that form factor. They could probably do a -T series desktop cpu. But that's practically mobile as well.