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Does this mean that MacBook Pros will finally get more than 16GB RAM?
I hope so.

I have heard both ways on that subject.

Can anyone here REALLY say whether the proposed line of Kaby Lake MOBILE chips (quad-core) will be able to support > 16 GB of RAM?
 
Anything Intel releases today won't show up in Apple products for 1-2 years. The days of shipping the latest Macs with the latest Intel technology died with Steve Jobs. The Apple milking machine won't allow it.

Doesn't Apple get advanced supply from intel? I thought I remember when Skylake came out the new Macs had them before they were even generally available.
 
Does anyone know if Kaby Lake are good enough to still support the 4 TB3 ports and drive the same amount of monitors of the current generation with external graphic cards?

I want to have the option back for a 15" Macbook Pro without external graphic cards for more battery efficiency, improved stability and less stuff on a board that could break
 
Just bought the MBP, but I had no choice since my 2012 MBP graphics chip was failing. It is working pretty well for me, i have to admit, I have even gotten used to the new keyboard...
 
Most interesting thing about Kaby Lake is the support for Optane memory/SSD, but since there is no real Optane storage optionsout there yet, and Apple insist on soldering everything to the motherboard, it is of no real value yet.
Oh, I guarantee if Apple wanted to place an order for Optane chips to solder directly to MBP logic boards, Intel would be RIGHT there with pen-outstretched for Apple to sign-off on the Order...
 
Doesn't Apple get advanced supply from intel? I thought I remember when Skylake came out the new Macs had them before they were even generally available.

Engineers typically get samples to work with. Sometimes these can be an issues because the production fabs do not have the same level of controls that the engineering fabs do. But, before Apple ships a product they need to ensure that the production chips work as expected with the design.
 
I hope they do a mid season upgrade and all the people that bought the 3 year old processor create an uproar of biblical proportions. Tick...tock...tick...tock...
 



At today's Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, Nevada, Intel formally announced its full lineup of 7th-generation Intel Core processors, known as Kaby Lake. Kaby Lake low-power Y-Series and U-Series processors were announced in late August, but today's unveiling covers notebook and desktop chips that could be destined for many future Apple Macs.

Intel's 7th-generation processors are built on the "14nm+" process, introducing new optimizations compared to previous 14nm Broadwell and Skylake chips.

According to Intel, Kaby Lake will bring "double digit productivity performance increases" of up to 20 percent for gaming notebooks and 25 percent for desktops, compared to 2013 Haswell chips from Intel's prior release cycle. With 4K and 360 degree content, customers can expect up to 65 percent faster performance on notebooks. Enhanced security, a new media engine, and improvements in VR and gaming are all advertised features.

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Of the chips announced today, the 28-watt U-Series chips are appropriate for a future 13-inch MacBook Pro update, and we could see the 7267U/7287U/7567U used in 13-inch MacBook Pro machines this year. Those same chips are likely what Apple would use in a Mac mini update, as the Mac mini and the 13-inch MacBook Pro have traditionally included the same chips.

Intel's 45-watt H-Series chips are appropriate for a future 15-inch MacBook Pro update. The 7700HQ would be ideal for entry-level machines, while a mid-tier machine would use the 7820HQ and the top-of-the-line MacBook Pro would use the 7920HQ.

There are multiple potential upgrade options for the 27-inch iMac, but the S-Series desktop chips (7500/7600/7700K) are the straight upgrade path from the current Skylake chips used in 27-inch machines.

For the 21.5-inch iMac, Apple normally uses chips with higher-end integrated graphics, but Intel has not released Kaby Lake chips that are a clear upgrade for the smaller iMac machines. Apple could choose to use Skylake chips instead of Kaby Lake chips for the 21.5-inch iMac, and in that case, would likely adopt the 6585R, 6685R, and 6785R chips, released six months ago.

With today's announcement, Kaby Lake chips that are clear upgrades for the iMac, MacBook Pro, and Mac mini will be available to manufacturers in the near future and will be available for Apple's planned 2017 upgrades. Kaby Lake chips appropriate for future MacBook updates are already available.

Rumors suggest we will see refreshed iMacs in the spring, which is also when we may see new MacBooks, and in the fall, we expect to see Kaby Lake refreshes for the MacBook Pro lineup.

Article Link: Intel Announces Full Lineup of Kaby Lake Processors for iMac, MacBook Pro, and More

Wasn't it rumoured a few weeks ago that Apple would be making their own CPUs?
 
Not until the day when Mac Pro officially turns 4! :cool:

I think it's also the oldest apple computer currently available that went up by at least £500 ....by the time it gets updated it might be £1000.

Buy buy people these are going up in prices!!!!
 
I hope they do a mid season upgrade and all the people that bought the 3 year old processor create an uproar of biblical proportions. Tick...tock...tick...tock...

Why? The performance of skylake system is what one would expect. And you cannot get all the kabyLake chips Apple uses in it's product line until spring.
 
We'll probably see Kably Lake MacBook Pros this year. I believe the current MBP was supposed to ship at WWDC but the TouchBar appears to have taken longer than expected to implement.
No. Intel slipped their release date for the mobile quad-core Kaby Lakes by 6 months.
 
This is the real key. People desire portability more than processing power these days.

The big difference these days is getting 10-12hours (literally, all day) battery without plugging in with a 6th gen i5 -U. Vs the days of old with 1st and 2nd gen i5 -M's of only ~2hours.

Laptops completely superceded and replaced the desire for iPad type devices. That's not insignificant. And look how the market's tablet/ipad sales of stagnated and/or dropped. Intel saw a threat, and worked the channel to nip it in the bud.

True. Apple knows it and was looking for an improved batterij architecture, but that didn't come through. We'll probably see it this year.

Graphic performance, battery and software are, for me, the areas where we are going to see improvement...at least I hope.
In the background with iOS and OS X they are even closer to one os then we'd suspect/dream. Maybe marketing wise the won't converge but in the background they will.
 
Apple hasn't bothered to use the previous two generations of Xeon processor, and with the third slated to be out within the next several months.

Not sure why that is relevant though as Apple has exited the professional workstation market.
They haven't officially said anything if they were out of the pro market.
 
God forbid Apple be in sync with the latest chip releases, or at least update their machines in real time instead of waiting for some grand ceremony to update their products.
 
Intel Announces Full Lineup of Kaby Lake Processors for iMac, MacBook Pro, and More

Isn't the article writer ashamed of this title? It doesn't say anywhere it is for Apple's products. Hey, welcome to 2017!

At least Apple Insider added the word 'suited' in their headline.
Maybe we should all head over there instead! :)
 
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I just bought a Mini because I was tired of waiting and needed one since my MBP is on it's way out. Honestly, it's doing the trick...for now
 
I hope so.

I have heard both ways on that subject.

Can anyone here REALLY say whether the proposed line of Kaby Lake MOBILE chips (quad-core) will be able to support > 16 GB of RAM?

Does this mean that MacBook Pros will finally get more than 16GB RAM?

You won't see more than 16GB until next gen most likely.

Kaby Lake does not support LPDDR4.

And Apple would need LPDDR4 support to put 32GB. There are no 16GB LPDDR3 modules due to density, where as with LPDDR4 there are.

And no way will Apple move backwards to DDR4.
 
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