Intel Announces Full Lineup of Kaby Lake Processors for iMac, MacBook Pro, and More

[jetjaguar]

My loaded iMac should here tomorrow but I'm already thinking of returning it and just building a pc

 

[diipii]

Not for me. I bought a refurbed (not reimagined) 12 core "old" Mac Pro. It's like a Rolls Royce (not the embarrassing german one) and it flies. And I wasn't daft enough to waste cash on a 4 or 5K monitor either. No one can tell the difference except spotty nerds working in an Apple shop trying to make a sale. I am very happy working on a real Apple Mac.

 

[TigerWoodsIV]

I am almost there. I just.
If the battery winds up failing in three years because of this and I get a 3-year life span out of a 2K 2016 computer on the heels of getting a 8-year + lifespan out of a $1400 2008 computer, I'm going to kick myself.

And the 2-year old SSD is still svelte and fast. It's still [hungry, near-desperate] want from me, not actual need.

But something's gonna give. And at that point, what will this period of anguished waiting have served me?
I'm so glad you are enjoying yours.

I think it comes down to how much you'll be using your battery and what you'll be using it for. My main reason for getting a laptop is so I can easily transfer it anywhere I need to go and because I don't need more power than a MBP can provide. Extra battery life is always nice, but there won't be many situations where I'll need more than this generation offers. Because it was before the unibody, my 2008 tapped out at about 3-3.5 hours, so this is an improvement lol.

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

If apple knew about this new processors why they adamantly rushed with a previous gen processors!

Because they were tired of hearing Intel say "Tomorrow, Tomorrow" on Kaby Lake, and tired of hearing the public and press whine about "Why no new Macs?"

So, they tried to salvage some of the Christmas Buying Season with the new MBPs.

 

[TigerWoodsIV]

Not for me. I bought a refurbed (not reimagined) 12 core "old" Mac Pro. It's like a Rolls Royce (not the embarrassing german one) and it flies. And I wasn't daft enough to waste cash on a 4 or 5K monitor either. No one can tell the difference except spotty nerds working in an Apple shop trying to make a sale. I am very happy working on a real Apple Mac.

5k vs. my old ACD is night and day. I truly didn't think the difference would be as noticeable as it is.

 

[mac_in_tosh]

Everybody here is really negative, but I'm a huge Apple fan and regardless if Apple is slow to updating their Macs, Macs are still everyone's preferred desktop machine.

Everyone?

 

[BornAgainMac]

I wonder if Apple will release their desktops with these CPUs when the successor of this CPU is shipping?

 

[aaronhead14]

New CPUs aren't going to convince Apple to make new Macs, unfortunately. Apple's way too full of false pride. There have been PLENTY of new CPUs being released over the years, yet Apple still hasn't updated the Mac Pro OR delivered an iMac with powerful specs.

 

[doelcm82]

Sounds like no real performance gain for anything that doesn't make heavy use of 3D or 4K video?

Yeah. Probably won't improve your reading or typing speed.

 

[brendu]

The article literally just said 25% improvement for desktops in this generation alone.

You're wrong. It literally said "when compared to 2013 haswell chips."

 

[Pentium]

Okays now that's what I'm waiting for: the new Dell XPS 15

 

[diddl14]

Yeah. Probably won't improve your reading or typing speed.

Funny enough the new MBP keyboard did improve my typing speed. Completely the opposite of what I expected...

 

[brendu]

New CPUs aren't going to convince Apple to make new Macs, unfortunately. Apple's way too full of false pride. There have been PLENTY of new CPUs being released over the years, yet Apple still hasn't updated the Mac Pro OR delivered an iMac with powerful specs.

You're pretty misinformed about the Mac Pro processors. There has been ONE processor they could have upgraded to two years ago. Also, the iMac is the only Mac they have kept relatively up to date and offer pretty powerful options for.

 

[Labeno]

Coming to a Mac near you Q1 2018.

That seems a little early since Tim's pipeline only offers laptop updates every four years.

 

[citysnaps]

5k vs. my old ACD is night and day. I truly didn't think the difference would be as noticeable as it is.

The Apple 5K iMac image quality is astonishingly stunning. Puts a smile on my face every time I process photographs. The ACD isn't even close.

It's not just the higher resolution, but that in combination with a wide color gamut. It's Apple's two step long-term strategy across all devices. First, introducing retina displays. Second, expanding the color gamut (starting with the 5K iMac, and then the iPad Pro, iPhone 7, and 2016 MBP - and soon all devices). Together the result is incredible...

 

[brendu]

Not for me. I bought a refurbed (not reimagined) 12 core "old" Mac Pro. It's like a Rolls Royce (not the embarrassing german one) and it flies. And I wasn't daft enough to waste cash on a 4 or 5K monitor either. No one can tell the difference except spotty nerds working in an Apple shop trying to make a sale. I am very happy working on a real Apple Mac.

You're nuts if you think a 1080p monitor will look anywhere near as clear, and crisp as a 5K Retina display.

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

It's quite good.

You mean "Quite NOSY"...

I write Windows Application Software for a living, BTW.

 

[beaker7]

You're pretty misinformed about the Mac Pro processors. There has been ONE processor they could have upgraded to two years ago. Also, the iMac is the only Mac they have kept relatively up to date and offer pretty powerful options for.

Actually there have been two entire generations skipped.

E5-26xx v2 --> in Mac Pro
E5-26xx v3 --> skipped
E5-26xx v4 --> skipped
E5-26xx v5 --> ? available ~Q3 in quantity

 

[ginuz]

Misinformation again..

Kaby Lake is not providing more power nor more RAM. Apple's insistence on LPDDR4 16gb limitations is still the same with Kaby Lake. The IPC (Instructions per clock) is nearly the same. TDP is a bit better, but the main performance over Skylake is in the GPU with hardware HEVC 4K decoding vs hybrid decoding in Skylake. If you doing lots of 4K HEVC video work, then Kaby Lake will perform better than Skylake's GPU. However, I'm not so sure how that even works or improves the MBP with the AMD dGPU.

Intel Optane looks very promising but it's not even out in mass scale, so that feature of Kaby doesn't really apply.

fine, thanks. But Intel and Apple should move togheter (or Apple could wait a couple months more to output better machines. In a 4K-time I expected HEVC hardware acceleration, I took it for granted in new machines) , not one after the other.

 

[beaker7]

I write Windows Application Software for a living, BTW.

Thanks that totally changes my mind. You are clearly a leading expert on what OS and Hardware is most appropriate for my workflow.

 

[marty11]

Pricing on the nearly 1.5 year old iMacs is the issue for me. An i7 retina 21.5 with 16 GB is still near $2000 which is ridiculous. I don't mind last gen tech but I am not paying the Apple tax for old stock just because Apple has slept on the model. Drop prices 20% now.

 

[brendu]

Actually there have been two entire generations skipped.

E5-26xx v2 --> in Mac Pro
E5-26xx v3 --> skipped
E5-26xx v4 --> skipped
E5-26xx v5 --> ? available ~Q3 in quantity

Pardon my ignorance but aren't those different versions of the same processor generation (Ivy Bridge)?

 

[beaker7]

Pardon my ignorance but aren't those different versions of the same processor generation (Broadwell)?

No.

v2 was Ivy Bridge (still sold in Mac Pro)
v3 was Haswell
v4 was Broadwell
v5 is Skylake, eta Q3-ish 2017.

 

[brendu]

No.

v2 was Ivy Bridge (still sold in Mac Pro)
v3 was Haswell
v4 was Broadwell

Thanks! TIL. sorry for my wrong info.

 

[rowspaxe]

Everybody here is really negative, but I'm a huge Apple fan and regardless if Apple is slow to updating their Macs, Macs are still everyone's preferred desktop machine.

wut?