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Back in the ring for another swing
I believe this is Apple's attempt to get back in the ring for another swing at Microsoft. Apple has the world's best OS and they know it. Microsoft reputation is at an all-time low. Longhorn is still way off and even average users tire of security issues. By gaining Intel (and possibly others like HP) as an ally, this represent the opening salvo of a new OS WAR!
It is also possible that Apple and Intel are joining forces to woo Hollywood with some grand plan.
If Apple ever plans to stand up to MS, this is a great time to do it.
I believe this is Apple's attempt to get back in the ring for another swing at Microsoft. Apple has the world's best OS and they know it. Microsoft reputation is at an all-time low. Longhorn is still way off and even average users tire of security issues. By gaining Intel (and possibly others like HP) as an ally, this represent the opening salvo of a new OS WAR!
It is also possible that Apple and Intel are joining forces to woo Hollywood with some grand plan.
If Apple ever plans to stand up to MS, this is a great time to do it.
Another possibility...
I remember years ago seeing an advert for a PowerMac with a DOS card...essentially an x86 proc along with one of those old PPC chips. I wonder if Apple is thinking of plutting an Intel x86 chip and an IBM G5 chip in the same case....That would give a nice dual boot option...or even a more perfect emulation environment while in either Windows or in OS X. It would generate way too much heat though.
I remember years ago seeing an advert for a PowerMac with a DOS card...essentially an x86 proc along with one of those old PPC chips. I wonder if Apple is thinking of plutting an Intel x86 chip and an IBM G5 chip in the same case....That would give a nice dual boot option...or even a more perfect emulation environment while in either Windows or in OS X. It would generate way too much heat though.
Object-X
macrumors 6502a
Have you read the latest?
Wow, when did CNet Rumors start?
New CNet Rumor
Yet another interesting twist to this saga. Now Apple to Intel means downloadable movies. This is becoming surreal. 🙄
Arn, should I have submitted this as a new rumor?
Wow, when did CNet Rumors start?
New CNet Rumor
Yet another interesting twist to this saga. Now Apple to Intel means downloadable movies. This is becoming surreal. 🙄
Arn, should I have submitted this as a new rumor?
AliensAreFuzzy
macrumors 68000
AliensAreFuzzy said:
Heh, imagine Steve Jobs and Bill Gates in a lightsaber duel. I would pay big bucks to see that. 🙂
Caudor said:
Yes, yes, OS wars are.... well, fun. Risky, but probably good, given apple's position.
That said.... please all note-this means no more possiblilty of a chip war! Yes, we whine about MS and it's monopoly, but.... one chipmaker could be just as stifiling to the future of computing as one OS maker (yes, there is AMD, but still x86, and possible for intel to crush some day, too).
Forefit the chip war=monopoly, which by the laws of economics and of all history=crap sold at seriously excessive prices.
I'm not saying this shouldn't happen, I really don't know- it's hard to fight a two front war, for apple, particularly when intel and ms both have one front wars, and stopping the chip fight could be the move that means winning the OS fight. But it's still forefiting an important fight.
I'm hoping for some magic option that keeps PPC alive, and also uses intel, too. Not sure how this would happen, though.
Kinda kills Cell rumors, too. sadness there.
AliensAreFuzzy
macrumors 68000
Object-X said:
Cnet is really getting behind this rumor. They must be quite confident in their sources to keep writing stories like these. What if the story of Intel/Apple doesn't pan out? Cnet will have more than egg on their face...
MacTruck
macrumors 65816
Next years news article.
"Microsoft Purchases Apple computer (the software company) for 22 Billion Dollars.
Microsoft has purchased Apple computer in a move many predicted after Apple moved to the intel processor family. Microsoft has purchased the company in hopes of updating their failing longhorn operating system with OS X underpinnings."
Just a view into the future folks.
"Microsoft Purchases Apple computer (the software company) for 22 Billion Dollars.
Microsoft has purchased Apple computer in a move many predicted after Apple moved to the intel processor family. Microsoft has purchased the company in hopes of updating their failing longhorn operating system with OS X underpinnings."
Just a view into the future folks.
nagromme
macrumors G5
Here's a quick guide to all the POSSIBLE meanings for this. Crazy or not. Remember we are not talking about what is possible today. We are talking about what is possible in 2006-2007. And we don't know when the parties STARTED whatever change may--or may not--be coming. The contenders (and please add!):
* Nothing at all. Hoax or misunderstanding.
* Apple intentionally plants a hoax, to put pressure on IBM or flush out leaks.
* Apple switches gradually to x86, and all apps must be converted.
* Apple switches to a future x86 chip so fast that emulation can handle current apps whether converted or not.
* Apple switches to x86, with a G4 or G5 included for compatibility for as long as needed.
* Apple puts Intel x86 chips in some Macs, also keeps PowerPCs in other Macs as well. Split product line. Maybe Intel only for laptops, or only for high-end workstations.
* IBM or Freescale allows their PPC designs to be manufactured by Intel.
* Apple's contract with IBM means that if IBM fails to deliver, they must let Apple take the design elsewhere. Intel.
* Intel designs a new PowerPC for Apple.
* Apple uses Itanium or a variation.
* Apple uses a custom x86, not compatible with PC x86 chips.
* Apple sells OS X for Intel and lets anybody make clones again.
* Apple lets a limited number of partners resell Intel Macs the way HP resells iPods.
* Apple sells a dual Windows/Mac line that can run both systems well.
* Intel chips used in some other new way, or in some other non-Mac product. Such as iPods--maybe using Intel hardware DRM to allow subscriptions.
* Some other kind of Intel parntership entirely, such as WiMax.
If any of this is true, the option I really LIKE is Intel PPCs of some flavor. Probably a long shot.
"Jobs basically said no," however, basically means nothing 😉 "Jobs actually said no" would have me more convinced that Jobs wasn't carefully skirting the truth. Apple execs have been known to do that: iMac G5, anyone?
* Nothing at all. Hoax or misunderstanding.
* Apple intentionally plants a hoax, to put pressure on IBM or flush out leaks.
* Apple switches gradually to x86, and all apps must be converted.
* Apple switches to a future x86 chip so fast that emulation can handle current apps whether converted or not.
* Apple switches to x86, with a G4 or G5 included for compatibility for as long as needed.
* Apple puts Intel x86 chips in some Macs, also keeps PowerPCs in other Macs as well. Split product line. Maybe Intel only for laptops, or only for high-end workstations.
* IBM or Freescale allows their PPC designs to be manufactured by Intel.
* Apple's contract with IBM means that if IBM fails to deliver, they must let Apple take the design elsewhere. Intel.
* Intel designs a new PowerPC for Apple.
* Apple uses Itanium or a variation.
* Apple uses a custom x86, not compatible with PC x86 chips.
* Apple sells OS X for Intel and lets anybody make clones again.
* Apple lets a limited number of partners resell Intel Macs the way HP resells iPods.
* Apple sells a dual Windows/Mac line that can run both systems well.
* Intel chips used in some other new way, or in some other non-Mac product. Such as iPods--maybe using Intel hardware DRM to allow subscriptions.
* Some other kind of Intel parntership entirely, such as WiMax.
If any of this is true, the option I really LIKE is Intel PPCs of some flavor. Probably a long shot.
"Jobs basically said no," however, basically means nothing 😉 "Jobs actually said no" would have me more convinced that Jobs wasn't carefully skirting the truth. Apple execs have been known to do that: iMac G5, anyone?
Oh, wouldn't it just be sweetly ironic if they did an updated version of the 1984 commercial and showed them breaking free of IBM yet again! I can see it now!arn said:
AliensAreFuzzy
macrumors 68000
Church
macrumors regular
arn said:
It depends, an example is how they make the computer now, because you aren't really supposed to swap out the processors on a pmg4 and Tiger doesn't support the after market processors officially, but the makers of the cards make it so they are recognized by the os. With the pmg5, from what I hear, you can't even swap out the processor. So, if they make them the pmg4 way, then yes, you will probably be able to run OSX on your dell. If not, then no. The idea doesn't seem that far fetched to flash some part of the hardware so that OSX will support it or to make your hardware to support it unofficially (mobo makers would do this). AND if all of that can happen, you could probably even end up using an AMD processor instead of intel. Either way, I'm still a ppc kind of guy...
It's True
The Rumor is not a rumor, its true. Go the the WSJ.com and check out the very lead story.It makes sense for Apple to leak a story like this progressively over weeks. SERIOUSLY! Think about if they kept this rumor secret, and just decided to spring it without any leak on their developers. I think developers would pass out in their seats. This preps people to be ready for this type of annoucement.
The Journal report this evening states "
SAN FRANCISCO -- Apple Computer Inc. is expected to announce Monday that it will begin shifting its Macintosh computer line next year to Intel Corp. chips, people familiar with the situation said.
The move is a major change in strategy by Apple, a high-profile win for Intel, and a potential blow to International Business Machines Corp. and Freescale Semiconductor Inc., suppliers of the PowerPC chips that Apple has long used in its Macintosh systems.
Apple's decision, which comes after years of industry speculation and behind-the-scenes lobbying by Intel, could cause disruptions for users of the Macintosh. Among other things, application programs will have to be adapted to run on Intel's x86 chips, the calculating engines used in most personal computers that run Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating system.
Steve Jobs, Apple's chief-executive and co-founder, is expected to explain the shift Monday during a keynote speech to attendees at the company's annual conference for software developers in San Francisco, the people familiar with the situation said.
For those who read the Journal, sources familiar = Apple and Intel execs. And those who keep dissing the Journal, learn how to read it, its accurate, true, and Apple would go their first to leak any stories. Don't you see the CNBC video of Walt Mossberg from the WSJ on the front page of Apple.com. So get ready, it's not life ending, and just pull down your pants, sit in the snow and slide...
The Rumor is not a rumor, its true. Go the the WSJ.com and check out the very lead story.It makes sense for Apple to leak a story like this progressively over weeks. SERIOUSLY! Think about if they kept this rumor secret, and just decided to spring it without any leak on their developers. I think developers would pass out in their seats. This preps people to be ready for this type of annoucement.
The Journal report this evening states "
SAN FRANCISCO -- Apple Computer Inc. is expected to announce Monday that it will begin shifting its Macintosh computer line next year to Intel Corp. chips, people familiar with the situation said.
The move is a major change in strategy by Apple, a high-profile win for Intel, and a potential blow to International Business Machines Corp. and Freescale Semiconductor Inc., suppliers of the PowerPC chips that Apple has long used in its Macintosh systems.
Apple's decision, which comes after years of industry speculation and behind-the-scenes lobbying by Intel, could cause disruptions for users of the Macintosh. Among other things, application programs will have to be adapted to run on Intel's x86 chips, the calculating engines used in most personal computers that run Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating system.
Steve Jobs, Apple's chief-executive and co-founder, is expected to explain the shift Monday during a keynote speech to attendees at the company's annual conference for software developers in San Francisco, the people familiar with the situation said.
For those who read the Journal, sources familiar = Apple and Intel execs. And those who keep dissing the Journal, learn how to read it, its accurate, true, and Apple would go their first to leak any stories. Don't you see the CNBC video of Walt Mossberg from the WSJ on the front page of Apple.com. So get ready, it's not life ending, and just pull down your pants, sit in the snow and slide...
